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Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:45 pm

Draw a realistic fruit with inkscape. I'm launching this contest to see who can do better with inkscape. :D
There aren't prizes. This is for show inkscape can be a great tool for digital drawings.
Deadline: None The winner will be choose by admin or moderators ( i hope :D )
You can also show your work in progress, i will show mine soon!
Have fun!
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:19 pm

The winner will be choose by admin or moderators ( i hope)

Aw rats! Then admin or mods can't submit drawings?
:idea: No problem -- it's just the experience of doing the drawing that I want, so if I am to judge, any drawing I submit can be ineligible to "win"! I wonder if my drawing of leftover grape stem would fit criteria, lol (viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4166)

Hey, there have been some fruits (and vegies) posted in Show It Off section, over the years. I specifically remember a pumpkin (not jack-o-lantern) a couple of years ago. Anyway, maybe sufficient examples aleady exist?

Off topic:
I started to participate in the 1st competition that micro posted (the first forum anniversary). But I was so inexperienced at that time, never submitted my effort. If I recall, there was only one entry posted, so I don't think a winner was ever chosen. And I'm guessing that's why no other competitions have been proposed. But I would definitely like to see it become a regular thing. The forum was still young back then, and maybe there might be more interest now? Maybe this will be a good test?

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:04 pm

Brynn everyone can join! :D
Hope to see some good grapes! yum! :lol:
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:44 pm

Ok, so i've started this yesterday when i found a really good stock from morguefile. I've choose a cherry! Nothing special for now, just 20 - 30 minutes of works choosing some basic color. I will post more soon! :D

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:13 am

Ok, are we sharing WIPs?
Here's where I am with colors finished, but not yet any shading, highlights or texture -- much work yet to be done :D

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Isn't anyone else interested??!

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:38 pm

Brynn, nice! :D I'll post my second wip tomorrow if i can! :)
Well, if anyone will not join i thought i could just delete the deadline so they can do it whenever they want.
So the contest will be just a challenge. :)
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:45 pm

I'm good with that!
I'd be happy to just challenge each other for a while. Maybe others will join in, as it goes along?
It's really a curious thing to me, that people sometimes seem sort of ravenous for tutorials, but seem to overlook this particular vehicle for learning. Maybe it is the competition part of it, that learners of less than advanced techniques assume they could never "win"?? I don't know, but maybe "challenge" will catch on better?? I guess we'll see what happens!

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:55 am

I don't understand it neither. :roll: Actually tutorials are a trend so.. we'll see what happens! :)
Second wip here!

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby audiologies » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:47 am

Id love to post my cherry but I can't, what do I have to do, post like 10 times or something? Just a couple days ago I was assigned a project for a cherry company's art work, so I have been playing with them, how convenient :)

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:44 am

Welcome Ryan!
After you've finished with your SVG, do File menu > Export Bitmap. This will save a PNG version of your image. Then you can upload it, either directly into the message as an attachment, or to any host of your choosing. Then use the IMG tag in the message editor (click Post Reply, not Quick Reply....unless you want to type the tags yourself).

Can't wait to see your work :D

Edit -- Your first 2 messages as a new member are moderated before being posted. After that, they'll get posted automatically. Anonymous or Guest members posts are all moderated. This is to protect against spam, which has gotten crazy lately....although I guess all forums eventually fall victim :evil:

Also fyi, I'm close to finishing my pear. Those little speckles are hard to depict!

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby audiologies » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:15 am

Ahhh, thank you for the heads up, and the welcome. I had read through the faqs and rules but couldn't see that 2 post rule.

I was wondering what you would do for a texture on that pear. Some fruits are just plain hard.

Speaking of the popularity of contests, I would love to see more because I think it is a great way to learn and it gives you some motivation too. I can understand why tutorials seem to be so sought after, to learn a technique you don't need creative brain power, its easier. A contest forces you to be creative to find the right solution to a situation, which is harder and slower, but I think more beneficial. You are learning two things at once, the technique itself and how to approach new problems.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:30 pm

Ryan, you say exatly what i think. Read here: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5528

I've updated the first post and changed the deadline to none. Next wip soon! :mrgreen:
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:23 am

Ok, I guess I wasn't as close to finished as I thought :mrgreen:
And still not finished, but this is the last wip, in any case. All that's left to do is add a few scratches or brown spots or the like. Actually I'd love to be able to buy pears in this condition, without any blemishes. But alas, pears are so delicate and easily damaged. So it's not completely realistic yet, but very close.

My comments:
I see that it doesn't look entirely realistic, and think some brown spots will help. But something is still not quite right about it. I think it's because it looks too smooth and round. I think I need to add something to make it look....not sure how to say it......it needs to be a little more irregular -- like a bulge here and there or a crease, or something. I'm still thinking how to depict that. Also I'm definitely not satisfied with the little flower bits at the bottom. I guess they look ok at 50%, but at 100% don't seem quite right to me. [Edit -- too many speckles?]

All comments, constructive criticism welcome.
Screen shot at 50% below, and link to full size.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:27 pm

Very good brynn!! :D

Don't worry, realistic drawings are probably the most difficult to do. I, personally, don't like the white background and the brown part which i don't know the correct name in english ( sorry! ) the rest is good! :) Also are you using a stock? Maybe i can help you more if i see the real one!
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:51 pm

Thanks RM.
Well technically, it's a transparent background; that's a screen shot, but if you also see white on the full size, then I guess your browser default must also be white. I do like how the black background makes the colors pop on your cherry. But with the pear being so light colored naturally, it seemed like too much contrast for me. The brown part....you probably do mean the flower. The dried up bits on stuff on the end that's opposite the stem are the remains of the flower. (Sorry, I studied forestry -- I could be quite a bit more technical, but I'll try and restrain myself!) I'm also not satisfied with that part. Unless you mean the stem, where it was connected to its tree? In my image, stem at top, flower on bottom. Which brown part do you mean, top or bottom? And can you say what it is that you don't like about it?

No I'm not using a stock or any other photo. I started it purely from memory, but later purchased a pear, to try and help with the speckles, coloring and spots. As much as I pride myself on seeing detail in everyday life, it still helps immensely to have a subject to study!

But I am still working on it. I'm deleting some speckles, because I think I've got too many on there. Plus the flower end, as I've said. And I'm gonna try to add more depth and/or irregularity, if I can manage it. Also where the stem meets the fruit, I don't love how it came out, although with the other stuff fixed, that part might not seem so bad.

Anyway, thanks for your comments. I'll definitely post my final version when it's done. How is your cherry coming along?

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby yottaflop » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:17 am

Maybe a little cartoony, but I like it.
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:19 pm

Awesome yottaflop, thanks for joining the challenge!
Cartoony or not, everyone works at their own level, especially as this has turned into a challenge rather than a competition. I like how you used the blur with the seeds. It makes them look like they're just below the surface, which is a realistic appearance for watermelon seeds. Plus I think depicting the texture of a watermelon would be a supreme challenge, at least it would be for me, lol.

I've finished my pear, but ImageShack is being difficult for me, so can't get it uploaded at the moment. Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:35 am

Ok, I'm calling it 'finished'!
I'm really not satisfied that it looks realistic, not all of it. Some of it I think does look realisticut, but I am just too tired of working on it right now. However I have learned several important lessons, and do know what I would do differently, the next time I have similar issues. And I am totally open to comments and constructive criticism.

In general, I feel like I can depict parts of an image that lie in shadow fairly well, or at least to my own satisfaction. But one area in which I want to improve is depicting the parts of an image that contain highlights. For example in this pear, I just cannot get the top part of it to look right -- where the stem comes out, the deep cut and bruise at the top, even the highlights themselves seem to struggle. I did remove almost half the speckles, but in retrospect, think I should have left them alone. The bottom (flower end) finally looks ok to me; not great, but at least ok.

Ok, below is the screen shot at 50%, and here's the link to full size.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby RM. » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:31 pm

Sorry for the late reply :oops:

@ yottaflop: nice to see someone else here! good job! are you calling it over or would like to do more?

@ Brynn: I mean the steam ( thanks for the little lesson :) ) seems kind of flat to me. But, It looks good and i like that you learned new things, that was the 'challenge'. ;)

So, this is my third wip..and i'm still not happy. Maybe i have to chance. The red part remember an apple..or a tomato? :roll:

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:18 pm

Nice R.M!
I like the stem. It's like I could just reach out and touch, it's so realistic. As for the fruit itself, the color is good, and can see some irregularity in the surface, which is a good thing. From a distance, a cherry looks like a little red ball. But up close, it's got bulges and flat places. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is that it seems like it's either bright, rich color, or lost in shadow. I'm wondering how it would work to have some more middle ground in the color? I just happened to buy some cherries the other day, and I was noticing that even the color is not consistent on a cherry -- some areas are darker, and others lighter red, irregardless of shadow. Unless....wait, did you say you're working from a photo? Maybe the photo doesn't give you the authority to do these things? Well anyway, just a couple of thoughts :D

You know now that you mention it, the stem of my pear does look a little flat. I had fits trying to get the color and highlight right, but never quite got it right. But I do appreciate your comments. It reinforces for me the need to work on highlights or reflections :D

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby Beffa » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:52 am

Ok so Im pretty new with inkscape, trying some things out! This is what I have done so far, cant say it looks that good but maybe it will be.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:57 am

Welcome to our little challenge, Beffa!
That looks like a nice start -- good color and shape. And see, you got the place where the stem comes out to look like what I wanted on my pear. So I see in yours a couple of things I could do, or do differently next time. Maybe I'll even do some editing on it, even though I was tired of working on it, and called it "finished". Maybe, we'll see!

The only improvement I would suggest at this point, is the placement of the leaf. I could be wrong about this, and a simple Google image search would probably confirm or deny. I've never seen a leaf come out of the middle of the stem. I'm pretty sure the leaf would come out from the hole where the stem is attached (that I never could get right on my pear). Or it could be attached to the end of the stem. And again, I could be wrong.

Anyway, I'm glad you've joined in. I think this really can be a great way to learn and improve skills.

Edit - so far I haven't found a photo of an apple with a leaf. Lots of drawings of apples with leaf, but no photos of the real thing. But I know I've seen apples with a leaf at the grocery store. Just can't remember where it's attached.

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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby flamingolady » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:12 pm

well, I was about to post my poor attempt at a pear, but I can't figure out how to attach a png file to the post. Can someone fill me in on the secret of how to attach a file? thx
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby brynn » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:05 pm

We can't upload images as attachments in this forum, although it CAN be done in the Help forum and some others. So you'll need to upload it to a host somewhere, like ImageShack or http://www.imgh.us/index.php. Then you'll use the Img tags found in the message editor. For detailed instructions, click on the tiny text link that says "BBCode is ON", just below the Smilies.

Can't wait to see your pear :D
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Re: Draw a realistic fruit

Postby flamingolady » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:44 pm

ok, here's my draft version of a pear, it needs more work, but it's a start.
This is also a test to see if I can successfully upload the picture (so don't be surprised if there's no actual pear picture here, lol).
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