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<div class="text" title="text/x-irclog"><ol id="lines"><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 09:35:51 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>I'm going back from work so I may be a few minutes late for the meeting
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 09:41:35 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, ok thanks. There was just one thing I wanted to ask for your help with
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 09:42:04 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, actually more of a devel task than board
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 09:43:11 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, looking forward a bit to the next release 0.93, I know there's some remaining stuff relating to the gtk3 transition
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 09:43:45 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, could you work on gathering a task list of stuff that needs done for 0.93 to get us ready for a release?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:01:49 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>== Board Meeting ==
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:01:58 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Hi all!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:04 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span><span class="na">Agenda:</span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Welcome new Board Members
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Officer positions?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Board election debrief
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Infrastructure backup/alternate hosting
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Sponsor acceptance policy
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Preliminary preparations for 0.93
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ 2017 Budget
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Merchandise sales
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Funded development
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Hackfests - Boston, Spain/LGM
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Other Business
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:12 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:12 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>HI BRYCE!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:19 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>Hey!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:44 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>hi tedg! glad you made it
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:02:57 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>do we have Mc and CRogers joining us today?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:03:10 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Yeah, tried to come last month but couldn't get the wifi on the plane to work :-(
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:03:47 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, ah yeah I doubt I'd be able to get that working myself
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:05:11 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>so was hoping we could all welcome Mc and CRogers but maybe they'll make an appearance later
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:05:20 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>I've used it before, and it's been fine. But the captured portals are getting harder and harder to use as the browsers are upping the SSL standards they expect.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:05:33 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>We can welcome them in the minutes :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:05:44 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>welcome Mc and CR!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:06:06 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>it's good to have the board refilled, and I'm looking forward to what we'll be able to get done.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:06:31 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, maybe it's just you and me today!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:06:35 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>and Lazur :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:06:50 </span><span class="nt"><prkos></span>and /me lurking
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:07:00 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>oh, in scrollback Mc says he's coming in late due to work commute
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:07:00 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Yup, I vote we decide to move the entire project to Github if doctormon doesn't show up ;-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:07:07 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>haha
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:07:46 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I'll jump forward a bit in the agenda
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:07:52 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>=== Board election debrief ===
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:08:16 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>speaking of martin, I wanted to thank him for all the work he did on the new system
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:09:19 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>with the election done, we should gather people's thoughts on what went well, what could be done better, etc.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:09:28 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>thoughts and comments?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:09:49 </span><span class="nt"><jabiertxof_></span>I just thinking the same 1 hour before
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:10:05 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>I for one didn't realize we had to register in a new system... so I think we need to make sure announcements (and followups) go to the mailing list.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:10:26 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>I think the board elections are important enough for some spam.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:11:14 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, yeah true
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:12:31 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Something I'd like to figure out, and it's probably better a discussion at a hackfest is how we get non-developers to vote.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:12:51 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>+1
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:12:56 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>We've got a simple system now, but I'd like to get the doc folks and the vectors team feeling like they're more part of it.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:13:04 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, do you mean to vote, or to run for the board?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:13:11 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Yes :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:13:14 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, yeah agreed
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:13:52 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>getting more nominations in, etc.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:14:12 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, do you happen to remember how long our nomination period was last time?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:14:25 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Not off hand.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:14:37 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>hmm
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:14:55 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Isn't that in the doc you wrote?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:15:06 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ah I should check
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:15:32 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Oh, we should move the board stuff to Gitlab :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:15:44 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>(Voting was 2 weeks.)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Election Schedule
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>=================
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Kickoff Announcement: ${date}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Post to inkscape-announce@
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>+ Publish news item to website
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Candidacy period Start: ${date}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Candidacy period End: ${date + 2 weeks} (08:00 UTC)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Publication of Candidates
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>& start of Candidate Q&A: ${date + 2 weeks}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Election Start: ${date + 2 weeks}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Election End: ${date + 2 weeks + 2 weeks} (08:00 UTC)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>* Results Posted: ${date + 2 weeks + 2 weeks + 2 days}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:48 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>We really need some intermediate variables there.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:16:54 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>haha
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:17:20 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>Nominations were until Aug, 15th last time
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:17:30 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>18th, sorry
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:17:47 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>well I'm wondering if increasing the nomination period might enable us to solicit a broader range of people, I know people need time to mull things over before accepting nominations too
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:18:37 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Or perhaps an: "Announcement of current nominations" at ${date + 1wk}
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:19:03 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Just to make people see there is no one running and/or someone they don't want to win as the only candidate :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:20:09 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>call for candidates was August 5th.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:20:32 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Moini, ok cool, so it was the required period, good
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:21:03 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>maybe because I was out of town for a week it felt shorter.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:21:39 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>reading my procedure, I notice it says, "Alternatively, any Official Member may nominate another Official Member." but that leaves it ambiguous whether someone can nominate multiple people, or just one nomination per person.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:22:25 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Feel free to hotfix that
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:22:31 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>We had allowed for multiple invitations last time (but there weren't so many, either)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:22:55 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>We need to make being on the Inkscape board more glamorous.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:23:39 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, would you mind reading through the election_procedure.txt yourself and see if you spot any other stuff like that, that we should clarify? I'd like to capture whatever edits we can make to improve it and do a vote on revving it
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:23:49 </span><span class="k">*</span><span class="gi">Mc is here</span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:23:52 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>sorry for the delay
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:00 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Sure I can do that.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:07 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>hopefully it'll be a long time until the next board election, but would be nice to capture our good ideas based on this one
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:08 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>What do you think about moving all that to Gitlab?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, thanks
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:16 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Then we can do it as a PR.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:16 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, definitely good idea, yes
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:21 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, welcome!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:35 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Might be nice to switch to markdown as well...
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:45 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, and welcome to the board! Looking forward to your involvement. :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:24:50 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, agreed
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:25:17 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>thanks :)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:25:18 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, in fact if you feel a gumption to reformat any of the stuff there, go right ahead, that's been on my todo list for ages
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:25:37 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>I'll migrate first, we'll see how excited I get.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:25:43 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>nothing depends on the current text formatting, so nothing is gonna break
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:25:54 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok cool, moving on
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:26:07 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>=== Infrastructure backup/alternate hosting ===
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:26:14 </span><span class="k">*</span><span class="gi">tedg wonders if bryce_ would break having to do markdown ;-)</span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:26:15 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I am going to be sending out a request for hosting sponsorship
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:26:33 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, nah I do markdown for plenty of other stuff, I'm good
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:27:54 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>tedg, I've wanted to get the visibility of our votes improved, and having them in markdown gives some options for achieving that :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:28:30 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Haha, okay. We can use unicode ✅ too!
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:28:58 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>👍
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:29:04 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>anyway, on topic of hosting, I'm pretty much ready to send out the solicitation but wondered if you guys think I should solicit more input first?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:30:02 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>No, I think it's good.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:30:22 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>alright, thanks. I'll try and push it out this weekend then.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:30:48 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I debated about posting to inkscape-devel@ but it feels like something too easily bikeshedded
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:31:10 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok, jumping ahead a bit more in the agenda...
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:31:16 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>=== 2017 Budget ===
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:31:33 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I >finally< got around to this, worked on it all night last night in fact
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:31:49 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span>Does anyone have a log I can catch up on?
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:31:57 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">doctormon:</span	yes, 2s
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:00 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dVTAA_1LF7HyuJdK2paE_kudUAb4edL7AIYctPHMJOA/edit#gid=744628988
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:06 </span><span class="k">*</span><span class="gi">doctormon thanks Moini for the reminder email</span>
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:35 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Make it read only for everyone with link?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:37 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I don't know if this is publically visible or you need an invite, but if the latter I'll add anyone that wants to look
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:46 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">doctormon:</span	https://paste.fulltxt.net/Ko9:a4-VoR
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:51 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>You're welcome, doctormon.
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:32:52 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Just sent an invite request
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:33:17 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	not public (request sent)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:33:40 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ah rats, I don't actually own it
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:33:55 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok, hmm, I'll figure out something post meeting and email it to the board list
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:34:32 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>meanwhile -- http://picpaste.com/budget.png
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:34:37 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>Donna Benjamin granted me access just right now
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:34:51 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok great
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:35:00 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>(FSF ?)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:35:06 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>SFC*
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:35:25 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>so, I restructured things to hopefully be a bit clearer; last year's budget was complicated even for me to figure out
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:36:02 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>still learning about ledger, there's always surprises hidden there ;-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:36:12 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>wow, we doubled our budget
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:36:43 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I think I'm also coming to learn that a spreadsheet is not really a good way to manage this data. Ledger's numbers are a bit too fluid...
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:36:51 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>anyway yes! the numbers look really good
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:37:39 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>do the 2017 hackfest numbers look correct? Only $1500 total?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:38:02 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I want to doublecheck that but on first glance it looked like it included everything
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:38:07 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Hmm, that seems low...
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:38:11 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>I don't know, I asked 0, but this seems low
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:38:33 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok, yeah it looked low to me too
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:39:08 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>sometimes expenses get mislabeled in ledger, so guess I need to poke around
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:39:40 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>so take these numbers as a bit preliminary
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:40:15 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>non-french people were doctormon (plane from USA), CR (0), alex(came from UK) so travel cost should be low, but the hotel cost should not be that low
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:41:36 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>the budget doubling is due to the $10k sponsor we got this year :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:42:19 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>so, apart from getting the tallies correct, part of the budgeting process is to allocate money to various buckets
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:42:31 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>we should look for more like this sponsor :p
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:42:32 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>these are the columns hackfest, svg wg's, etc.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:42:39 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, agreed :-)
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:42:59 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span><span class="na">Mc:</span	doctomon was 0, he didn't claim anything.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:43:04 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>for 2017, I'm considering basically just re-proposing the same numbers as we did in 2016
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:43:16 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	ok, so it's normal that the amount is low
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:43:22 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>but I wanted to get your guys' thoughts and input
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:43:36 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>and if there are any other expenses or buckets I should account for?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:43:55 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>also, keep in mind our fiscal year goes until March 1st
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:44:04 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>is there a column for the gsoc allocation ?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:44:32 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>No, I mean, I don't think we should readjust the hackfest number even if this one was low. We can't expect that.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:44:33 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>iirc they give ~2200$ to cover travel expenses to mentor summit
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:44:39 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, do you mean the sponsorships that Google pays? No, those are handled separately and the money doesn't pass through our accounts
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:44:56 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>not the sponsorships to the students
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:45:45 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, ah. Yeah if those funds do go through us, that's a good idea to add as another bucket
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:46:02 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I'll poke through ledger and see if those amounts showed up
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:46:22 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_> </span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:46:49 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>also, one of our funded projects is the removal of GList/GSList, which Mc kindly reported is now completed.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:47:27 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I'd like to propose that we allocate an additional $250 to the open projects, which would bring that project to $750, and pay Mc for completion of that project.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:47:55 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I'll post a vote for this, but wanted to see if that sounds okay?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:47:58 </span><span class="k">*</span><span class="gi">Mc has a conflict of interest and cannot vote on that ^^</span>
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:48:17 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>yeah, was just going to say you can recuse yourself from this one :-)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:48:46 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>so the numbers on "allocation" line of 2017 are just a proposal ?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:48:58 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Mc, correct
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:49:08 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span>I'll also recuse myself. I don't believe in the project funding system and shouldn't vote on it.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:49:27 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>I haven't proposed a budget yet for 2017 (I'm extremely slow on that task this year) so those are the numbers I'm going to be proposing soon
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:50:38 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>+1 on the vote, not sure it's needed
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:50:45 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>(the +1, not the vote)
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:51:43 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span>Just here for a couple of minutes... the cost of the hackfest was low.. just Alex and I asked for reimbursements I think.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:52:09 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span>+1 for giving Mc the GSList money.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:52:18 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>alright, we're getting towards the hour.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:52:56 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>=== Other Business ===
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:52:59 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	GTK3 summary of work that needs to done might be best done by Alex with help from su_v.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:53:18 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>anyone want to talk about any other items on the agenda we didn't get to, or other topics?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:53:46 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, would you be willing to work with them on that? I definitely agree they'd be good resources.
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:53:51 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">doctormon:</span	Any news on a hackfest in Boston?
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:53:54 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Yes.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:54:00 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, thanks.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:54:06 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>custom svg filters
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:54:08 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span><span class="na">Tavmjong:</span	No response from the second email. I'm planning a third email.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:54:51 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>how to host them/mirror in the gallery
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:54:54 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span>LGM will be in Sevilla Spain this year. Might be a site for a mini hackfest. I don't know the dates yet.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:55:18 </span><span class="nt"><Moini></span>Next year?
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:55:27 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">Moini:</span	2018.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:55:40 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span>.... oops.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:55:41 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>any ideas how to achieve a better "drag and drop" install of custom filters
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:56:13 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>how to go on with the filtering cookbook
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:56:39 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	«Ideally», gtk3 work needs → refactoring of all the ui from C code to gtkmm classes → refactoring of custom actions and verbs to Gio::Action → Conversion of UI from code to glade files wherever possible (and fixing the few stuff) → some minor css fixes → lots of testing on various systems (osx, windows) and with various hardware (hidpi screen, drawing tablets)
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:56:57 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">Lazur:</span	Might be good ideal to simple put them in a standard file that can demonstrate their usefulness.
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:57:34 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Also we need to get icons working properly (theming).
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:58:15 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/10406?page=1
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:58:26 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, ok, build up a list. Might be useful to identify what can be pushed to post 0.93, vs. what items would be dealbreakers if we shipped without addressing them
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:58:29 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span><span class="na">bryce_:</span	Mc I don't think all that work needs to be done before 0.93.
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:58:43 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>have a few thousand custom filters, can't effectively organise them
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:59:16 </span><span class="nt"><Tavmjong></span>Got to go...
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:59:25 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>Tavmjong, thanks
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:59:31 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>ok anything else, or shall we close?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:59:39 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>if we market .93 as "the release using gtk3" but it cant be well themed like gtk3 apps, it might bring some disappointment i think
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 10:59:42 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>https://openclipart.org/detail/270604/stone-filter-megapack
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:00:17 </span><span class="nt"><bryce_></span>== End of Meeting ==
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:00:53 </span><span class="nt"><tedg></span>Thanks folks!
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:01:26 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">Lazur:</span	something like with symbols, markers or extensions that would make them appear in the list ?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:02:22 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>"something like"
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:02:55 </span><span class="nt"><Lazur></span>is there a better way to discuss gui ideas?
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:03:21 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>but you can already do that iirc
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:03:42 </span><span class="nt"><doctormon></span>We also need to fix menus for gtk3 versions available on Ubuntu 16.04, https://inkscape.org/en/~doctormo/%E2%98%85screenshot-from-2017-10-06-13-59-33
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:03:43 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span>putting them in .config/inkscape/filters
/code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:08:15 </span><span class="nt"><Mc></span><span class="na">(Lazur:</span	also, see /usr/share/inkscape/filters/README )
</code></li><li><code><span class="cp">Oct 06 11:12:31 </span><span class="nt"><jabiertxof_></span>bye all
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<h2 class="truncate">Board Meeting - October 6, 2017</h2>
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<p>Board Meeting - October 6, 2017<br />---<br />Curated by Maren Hachmann on November 4 2017 12:50 PM: change text format to IRC log for syntax highlighting</p>

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<dt>Created</dt><dd><time datetime="2017-10-06T20:39:12+0000" title="2017-10-06 20:39:12+0000">2017-10-06</time></dd>
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