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Skills, Challenges & Artwork => Completed Work => Topic started by: Lazur on March 19, 2016, 12:10:02 PM

Title: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 19, 2016, 12:10:02 PM
Starting this topic as having finished some neat little filters, uploaded to openclipart and thought it would get a more focused attention here.


Click on the images for their svg source.

They are uploaded at ocal (https://openclipart.org/user-detail/Lazur%20URH) in the collections of

filter in action (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/10405)
and
filter pack (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/10406)



Edit:
Since the packs got so many, made a few thematic collections.
paper and pencil (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13867)
gradient map (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13865)
hatching and halftone (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/10404)
halftone screening templates (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/16160)
wood grain (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13485)
stone textures (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13766)
fabric and painting (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13869)
blackboard art (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13848)
fire and dust (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13951)
abstract nonfigurative (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/13656)
animated (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15332)
soil and vegetation (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15825)
metal rust and gliss (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15891)
liquid and glass (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15902)
text effect (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15904)

realistc looking examples (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/15897)



Edit 2:
Adding in some more links.
repository of custom filters (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/filters.html)
                -a sleek collection of the filters presented in this forum topic without pagebreaks or slow loading-
unedited excerpt from Xav's series on filtering (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3d7ik4ogx3wlx4/filtering%20guide%20by%20Xav.pdf?dl=0)
                from the Full Circle Magazine (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11981) -basic description of the current filter editor (0.48-0.92)-
filtering guide, table of contents with links (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/tutorials.html)
                -my take on filter editing, with further elaboration here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32615); as again, everything is a downloadable svg file you can check in inkscape.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 19, 2016, 12:20:57 PM
Starting off, recent filter packs:


pencil filters (from 8H to 8B and three charcoal strokes)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244320/pencil-filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244320/pencil-filter-pack)


pen filters

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244321/pen-filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244321/pen-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 19, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
pack of papers

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244328/paper-filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244328/paper-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 19, 2016, 05:01:02 PM
Egg filter for the egg challenge:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244334/E5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244334/easter-egg-5)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 20, 2016, 06:10:16 AM
Omg Lazur, those are Amazing!!  And they could be used for many other things than what their names imply.

You know what we could do?  I could make an album in the gallery for filters, where anyone could upload their SVG filter files.  I was thinking of doing that for extensions too. 

Also, I think there's a category on the Inkscape website for filters....  Yes.  It doesn't show as on the gallery page.  But if you click Upload, you can see "Inkscape Filter Set" in the Category dropdown list.  (I'm not sure why it doesn't show on the front page, but I'll ask Maren.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 07:09:00 AM
Thank's!

At inkscape's site I have four images uploaded and the quota is already used up by 66%.
Though filters alone are not large in size but have doubts it's good for showcasing AND storing useful goodies at the same limited space.

Before reorganising the smc gallery, I would wait gaining more traffic.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 20, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
What's "smc gallery"?

Yes, I see what you mean about the quota.  I will bring this up on the Docs mailing list (where website issues belong).  Somehow we need to give members who are contributing resources more space.  If we want people to upload resources, they need the space to do it.   (I'm thinking it's possible that uploaded resources, as opposed to artwork, might not count towards the quota, but I'm not positive.)

Right now, I think they have individually given certain people more space (like jabiertxof, e.g.).  Anyway, I'll let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 08:40:11 AM
Hmm it is cpg -coppermine photo gallery. Remembered it wrong.
(Sm was familiar from the smf -simple machines forum. Mixed it up with the  speed modelling contests (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/11208), not sure how.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 20, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Oh ok.  No it would not be any major re-organizing.  I would just add a new category -- something like Inkscape Resources.  Then 2 new albums -- Extensions and Filters.  Maybe one for templates too, and you could upload those document templates that you made a while ago.

Ragnar has an extension which he put in his personal gallery.  But I think I can move it.  (He sure has been a stranger lately.  Now and then he answers a message at IF.  I write "Hi stranger" but he never even comes back to see it.  Anyway, he probably never notice if I moved it.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 20, 2016, 02:59:02 PM
Results of my inquiry about quotas.  At the moment, the website admins want to "manually" increase the quota for those who request it, rather than create any other kind of arrangement.

And good news!  Just on my mention, they've already increased your space.  They didn't say how much, so let me know..  I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 03:39:36 PM
Thank you for the mention, now it is at 25%. Will try to use it better than before, and, upload some of the more polished ones there too.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 03:54:08 PM
Speaking of unpolished filters, these latest ones didn't turn out simple/resource worthy, but hey, they are still "filters in action":


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244401/bgx1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244401/turbulence-dust)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244403/bgx3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244403/turbulence-dust-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244402/bgx2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244402/turbulence-dust-2)


(Original idea was to mimmick a look similar to that silver silk wave (https://openclipart.org/detail/177382/silver-silk-wave) which originated here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13941).
No progress without failed attempts I guess.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244029/gold-filtr.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244029/glossy-foil-filter-pack)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244166/grunge-1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244166/grunge-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 20, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
Ooohh, some of those grunge filters look like they might make nice woodgrain textures!  The gold ones too, except you'd have to change the color probably (haven't looked to see how they are made yet).

Ok here's how I'll solve the question about using the gallery.  If I made the special albums (1 for filters) would you use them?  It doesn't make sense to make new albums if I know they won't be used.  But if you would use them, it's really simple to add new ones.

Since we finally got the tutorial for making filters, and there are so many people making them now, I haven't even tried myself.  Hopefully I'll get my computer....well, either fixed, or I'll know for sure it's dying....next Tuesday.  I haven't been able to use Inkscape since I lost my mouse (2 weeks ago), so I'll be really happy when it's either fixed or I get a new machine.  Anyway, what I want is a fabrics pack....although I'd be happy with just 1 good fabric filter.  Just a simple linen type of fabric would be great.  But eventually I'll be able to read the tutorial, and try it myself.  (there are SO many different kinds of fabrics!)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
Mentioned tutorials, if anyone wonders:

Tav's 1st (http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1451)
Tav's 2nd (http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=1516)

The gold and the grunge ones are using flood fill, not the source object's colours.
They can still be edited -made the grunge by tweaking the gold's settings. (Guess I'm doing wrong the alchemist's work...)

Fabric texture needs to be drawn already, if you follow along those steps. For a custom filter pack I would go a different direction.


On the gallery, I would use ocal at first place because they can generate thumbnail images automatically for uploaded images.
Then I can upload here and at inkscape's gallery, if it would make sence.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 08:15:25 PM
Just made this one since my last post:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244458/fabric--filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244458/fabric-filter-pack)

This filter doesn't just distresses a pre-made pattern fill, but the texture/pattern itself is generated too.
In other words it can be applied on objects with a solid fill/gradient.

(Only flaw I couldn't figure out yet is how to change the luminance without altering the saturation. If more blending modes will be available... maybe I should upgrade to a 0.92 devbuild.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
Also it can be added to any object for that matter.
Useful to simulate an fine art canvas.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244460/1458530916.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244460/wings)

(The original (https://openclipart.org/detail/238013/wings) without filtering.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 20, 2016, 11:02:15 PM
fabric filter pack 2

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244463/fabric--filters-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244463/fabric-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 21, 2016, 01:19:50 AM
Amazing, Lazur!  Thank you SO much  :D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 21, 2016, 02:50:25 PM
Glad you like it. :bow1:
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 22, 2016, 04:05:25 PM
More fabric -plaid texture this time:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244559/plaid--filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244559/plaid-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 22, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Hah!  I was thinking of asking you for that, but I didn't think it would be possible.  The plaid part, yes, I thought that would be possible.  But it would be pretty hard....or more like resource heavy, to make the texture like you did the first time, AND the plaid.   So that it looks very realistic

If I could just get my computer fixed, I could open these and see how you did it.  Hopefully soon....
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 22, 2016, 05:10:50 PM
Didn't copy/pasted the previous filter you mention here, tried something simpler without blurring and whatnot.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244568/plaid--filters-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244568/plaid-filter-pack-2)

By the way, you can stack two filters even by applying one of them to an object, grouping it, then adding the other filter to the group.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 22, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
This is a compare how it looks if the plaid was grouped and the fabric filter added to the group.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 23, 2016, 04:55:14 PM
Blocky filter pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244637/blocky-filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244637/blocky-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on March 23, 2016, 05:12:58 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244403/bgx3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244403/turbulence-dust-3)
I quite like this one. It looks like watercolor, which is kind of trendy at the moment.

People go through a lot of effort to make watercolor-blobs and scan them for textures.
This doesnt work very well in IS because of processor overload, but it seems filters can do stuff to "imitate" what Illustrator can (brushes).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6aWkjNLFYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2wiU5tyfxo
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on March 23, 2016, 06:17:11 PM
"Zu früh gefreut", as we say in germany (feeling happy too early).

Watercolortexture takes ages (minutes) to render on my machine and when i make a bitmapcopy (Alt + B), Inkscape crashes.
So as vector, the texure is more or less unusable for me :(
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 23, 2016, 08:02:29 PM
Oh, I really like the blocky ones!  Some of those will be great for brick-like textures -- brick walls or brick pathways.

(I haven't had a chance to test these because using Inkscape with this piece-of-crap, built-in mouse on my laptop, is nearly impossible.  I might have to start getting pushy with tech support.  Well actually, I've already been pushy.  I might have to start getting ugly (the squeaky wheel approach).)  But I can't wait to download  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on March 23, 2016, 10:58:05 PM
I might have to start getting pushy with tech support.  Well actually, I've already been pushy.
What does that mean ?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 24, 2016, 12:08:12 AM
I might have to start getting pushy with tech support.  Well actually, I've already been pushy.
What does that mean ?

 :ot1: reply hidden, to avoid hijacking topic (such a great thread!)

Off-Topic: show

It means I've already asked them for phone support, or if not, please respond to emails in timely manner (not 2 days later).  To me, that's pushy.

I've already started getting ugly, although they don't know it.  I'm shopping for a different kind of mouse.  I've been loyally using their mouse, and I wear them out every couple of years, and buy another.  But if they can't support their paid-for product, I'm done with it.  The problem is that I can't find another touchpad mouse with all the same features.  I found one that I might buy, but it works a little differently.  Still might try it anyway.

But getting ugly where they know about it probably means I'll call them and not take no for an answer.  And that would an ugly situation.  (I once made a telemarketer hang up on me, lol!)  I have a lot of patience, and I'm as friendly as the day is long.  But after a certain point, they lose me as a customer.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on March 24, 2016, 12:41:10 AM
Off-Topic: show
Oh, you were talking about your laptop. I thought it was about rendering time for filters, lol.
We dont have this kind of product "policy" in germany, so its a kind of exotic concept for me.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 24, 2016, 03:58:57 AM
Off-Topic: show
Hah!  Oh gosh no.  I'm usually very straight forward when I write.  Unless I'm very tired, I don't think or write tangentially.

Well it's not so much of a policy.  In reality, I'm sure the hardware part of the mouse has lived past its warranty.  They are probably only interested if my problems would reveal something about the driver that they were not previously aware of.  And it seems to be the driver that's having a problem.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 24, 2016, 01:00:38 PM
Wasn't too happy with the previous one (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2294#msg2294)'s colouring.
Multiply, colormatrix and component transfer, yet it still lack that small bit.

So tweaked those out to have the pattern black to transparent fade. This way with the upcoming new blending modes (?) it may be easier to remix.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/244860/blocky-filters-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/244860/blocky-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 24, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
They would also be good for tree trunks!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 03, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
Less practical, but seeing that butterfly (https://openclipart.org/detail/243724/patterned-butterfly) I couldn't resist.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245684/1459718916.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/245684/blending-lines-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 05, 2016, 02:42:05 PM
Camouflage filters.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245794/camo-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/245794/camouflage-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 05, 2016, 04:19:04 PM
Reworked from scratch to add a fourth shade. Was looking too chaotic in the filter edtor.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245795/camo-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/245795/camouflage-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 05, 2016, 04:35:35 PM
Nice!  I'll bet a lot of game makers will like those -- especially those shoot-em-up games.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 05, 2016, 04:45:21 PM
Thank's!

Speaking of shoot-em-ups, here is a fishtank:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245796/camo-fishtank.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/245796/fishtank-remix)

-Tweaked the filter's settings, so it catches the object's shades and not just showing a plain fill.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 05, 2016, 06:53:25 PM
Hah!  Yes, the overlay type of filters are the ones I like to use the most.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 06, 2016, 12:44:20 PM
Here is a similar one to that blocky pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245842/bumpy-filters.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/245842/bumpy-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 07, 2016, 04:17:19 PM
Another winner!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 09, 2016, 10:00:33 AM
Trying out the plaid filter on a bag.
(Which comes from an uploaded spam at ocal autotraced.)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246058/1460220967.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246058/plaid-bag)

The component transfer sliders can control the "tone curves".
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 09, 2016, 01:07:43 PM
Another plaid filter in action:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246083/1460232683.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246083/girl-dressed)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 09, 2016, 05:34:47 PM
Inspired by that bulge topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24514), drew this feather:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246184/feather-and-egg.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246184/feather-and-egg)


Egg's texture is based on the camouflage above.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 09, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
Egg filter pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246186/egg-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246186/egg-filter-pack)

Posting it for the Easter egg challenge (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=118.msg2389#msg2389) too.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on April 10, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
The eggs look really great ! The filter is perfect for the job.

Also nice to see Dillerkind finally drawing a girl that is over 18.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Dillerkind?
Original (https://openclipart.org/detail/232992/dressed-girl-1-by-rones) comes from rones at ocal as far as I know.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2016, 03:43:47 PM
Experimenting with the convolute matrix filter primitive.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246238/lava.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246238/lava-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 10, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
I'm not sure exactly how the last one is made, but it looks like it might make a nice fire filter, if applied to the right shape of paths!  Or maybe it's just the color that gives me that idea.

Oh no, that's not Dillerkind's style at all!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Certainly it could have been better. Started out making it to have a fluid look.
But that is the way to improve -with all the failed attempts I get a better sence on making a good filter.
How was it made? You can open it in inkscape and check the filter editor...




"Soil" filter pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246241/soil.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/246241/soil-filter-pack)


Not exactly soil looking, nor exactly good on the colouring, but again, with a bit of tweaking this one would also be good for game development for example.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 18, 2016, 06:51:27 PM
If you feel sleepy, here, have some filtered coffee:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247069/coffeecup.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247069/filtered-coffee)

(Without the filtering it's just a single circle.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 18, 2016, 07:48:41 PM
Wow!  I'll never figure that out.  What makes the kind of scalloped edges?

Oooh, I see.  Applying it to some random rectangle tells the story!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 19, 2016, 08:55:50 AM
Cold have smoothed it out by blurring but was too sleepy at the time...

Something different:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247077/iso-lines.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247077/iso-line-filter)

Diffuse lighting is added to a turbulance, and, on top of it are placed isolines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contour_line) as in a topographic map.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 20, 2016, 11:12:36 AM
A looooonnng time ago, I found a filter that created something that looks like those lines.  I thought it reminded me of a topographic map.  It would take some searching to find the message, to find the name of it.  But I'm not sure it's still part of Inkscape.

Ok, curiosity was too much....  It was so long ago (8 years  :f5:), instead of Filters, Inkscape had Effects menu.  As I recall, Effects were mostly like the filters we have now, but some were kind of a cross between a filter and an extension (based on my non-technical understanding).  Some of them had dialogs, for example.

Quote
And here are the instructions:
1. Draw a path, which will look like a light duty road on your topo map, or like a hiking trail, if you change the stroke to a dashed line.
2. Effects menu > Generate from Path > Inset/Outset Halo
3. The above sample uses Width = 25.0, Number of Steps = 25. (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1171)
:???:  I wonder .... if I still had an SVG file with that effect, how the status bar would identify it now.  Would 0.91 say it was a path with Inset/Outset Halo Effect?  I don't, but it would be interesting if I did still have it in an SVG file.  I wonder if 0.91 could display it at all?

Changing the subject.  Lazur I've just installed several of your filter packs.  But they all show up in 1 huge, long, scrolling, submenu called "Personal".  Would it be very hard to put them in separate sub menus?  I don't mean I'm asking you to do it.  But I'm asking if there's something I could do, to put them in relevant sub menus, for my own installation.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 20, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
Guess it shouldn't be too complicated to do but to be honest I never tried adding those to the dropdown list.

The drop shadow filter has a dialog, which would be "nice to have" in some of the custom filters... or maybe not really.
Because these packs are made by tweaking the settings of the same chain, yet those settings wouldn't make much sense in a dialog alike.
Turbulance 1 slider, turbulance 2 slider, slider of component transfer... no, without a preview it's useless, noone could guess the same way in the current filter editor which settigs to change and why.

If there was a decent filter editor I guess that dropdown menu as it is today could be left out just like the gradient editor.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 20, 2016, 02:15:24 PM
Oh right -- a lot of filters have dialogs.  Not sure what I was thinking  :uhoh:  (Gotta stop answering messages until after that 1st cup of coffee  :lol: )

Oh, so you never created a "Personal" submenu?  I guess all filters installed by user must go in there? 

Hhmm...I think there's a way to create a new submenu for extensions.  I'm guessing it must be in the INX file.  But Filters don't have such a file.

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If there was a decent filter editor I guess that dropdown menu as it is today could be left out just like the gradient editor.

Unless I don't understand what you mean, I don't think that menu could be left out.  People would still want to use pre-existing filters, and not make their own, even if it was easier.  Or do you mean that all the filters would be listed in a new filter editor?

Edit
I wonder if you create subfolders in filters directory??  Would Inkscape find them?  I'll try....
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 20, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
No, didn't work....  Oh well.  Maybe feature request....
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 20, 2016, 02:50:56 PM
In the filter editor "custom" filters are listed on the left.
If there was a way the pre-made filters could be listed there as well -not just those that are saved in the svg-, somewhere so then you could access the "dropdown menu" from inside the filter editor.
Then again, the filter editor needs a complete reworking. Like, adding previews to different "sub-chains", and organising parts of the chain as like a group, the ability of labeling them and adding comments, adding custom sliders so then it would be all there if someone is interested at the exact moment for all the built in filters, and, like
you don't have to apply a built in filter, then go to the filter editor after to see how it was built and tweak the settings. 
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 20, 2016, 03:31:35 PM
Edit - making OT, so thread doesn't get hijacked  :)

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Ok, back to the menu/submenus.  When I installed your Diffuse Light filter pack, it went into ABCs submenu, and not Personal!  I wonder how that happened??
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 21, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
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Ok, back to the menu/submenus.  When I installed your Diffuse Light filter pack, it went into ABCs submenu, and not Personal!  I wonder how that happened??



Hmm have I posted it here as well? :hmm:
Made that a while ago, guess I could improve on it.
Just a guess, it could even be started by tweaking an existing filter's setting from the dropdown list.
Maybe the names/pace interferes.



That previous isolines filter was quite close in nature to a gradient map effect.
That would be a really nice thing to have, instead now the only choice is adjusting each step manually...

So here is a 10 step spectrum for a "gradient map" effect applied on a black on white gradient:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247167/gradient-map.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247167/gradient-map-filter)

Luminance is used for the mapping just as in gimp.



Let's see it in other action, applied it over turbulence:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247168/mapped-turbulence-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247168/mapped-turbulence-filter-pack)


The steps colours can be changed manually by editing them in flood fill primitives.
Their placement is kind of fixed on these. To do that, it would take way too much effort, editing "blindly", not seeing the intermediate effect.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 21, 2016, 11:02:42 AM
This gradient mapped turbulence would definitely need to be animated.

Soo trippin'.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/land4k4uwumawtc/gradient%20mapped%20turbulence.gif?dl=1)


Edit: uploaded to dropbox, attachments not support animated gifs.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 21, 2016, 12:15:23 PM
Made a "kaleidoscope" with that filter:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247173/kaleidoscope.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247173/trippy-kaleidoscope)


There seems to be some rendering issue that leaves some banding (?) all over the image.
Other than that, it works quite well -you can generate a ton of wallpapers with it.


Edit:

other variants

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247175/kaleidoscope-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247175/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247182/kaleidoscope-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247182/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 21, 2016, 05:06:34 PM
Oh, I'll have to try that one for sure!!  They're a little like mandalas, and you know how much I like round things :-D

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No, the Diffuse Light filters weren't uploaded in this topic.  I had installed them a while back.  But I just happened to notice they were in a different category, and I can't figure out why.  Maybe I installed Diffuse Light filter in 0.48.x, and maybe in 0.91, the devs provided the Personal category??

But if you ever figure out how it ended up in ABCs category, would you let me know?  Because that filter doesn't necessarily work only on text, and I always wondered why you put it there.  But it sounds like maybe you didn't do anything special regarding the category?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 22, 2016, 07:00:42 PM
More sixties related stuff
-threshold filters in pack, inspired by old posters (http://psychedelic-sixties.tumblr.com/).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247300/sixties-threshold-filter.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247300/touch-of-the-sixties-threshold-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 22, 2016, 09:35:14 PM
Wow!  "'scuse me while I kiss the sky" ....  better find YT video, if there are any?  Edit - found a vimeo - not a pure video, like music videos, but still the music:  https://vimeo.com/17659909  Edit - live:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJunCsrhJjg

That's a ton of detail in the Hendrix part.  It doesn't cause lagging?

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I found out how to change the filter category from Maren.  Haven't tried it yet.  But I'll post at a soon as I'm sure I understand.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 23, 2016, 02:52:25 AM
Searched alot for an image to apply the filter on.
It brings out the positive side when applied on raster images as regular vectors hardly have the detail level that could be reduced such way.
But for ocal that is a no-go, needs to be all vectors.
Like there are detailed cliparts too like this one (https://openclipart.org/detail/236708/leopard) I tried first but needed it 64 times...
which didn't work.
The original image (https://openclipart.org/detail/236717/jimi-hendrix-portrait-with-original-background) of Hendrix wasn't that detailed.
Converted it to a pattern for easier handling, and there it was.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 23, 2016, 06:27:04 PM
These component transfer filter primitives can really help with recolorizing an image.

It gave me the thougt that you could use it to draw a hatched fill.

So made this as a base
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247341/hatch.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247341/hatch-filter)

and then adjusted it's tone to match with the object's luminance:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247344/parallel-hatch-filter.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247344/parallel-hatch-filter)

It was a hell in the making yet I would tweak it for a more decent pencil feel.
The filter editor -or my sleepiness at the moment- is preventing from it, will look at it someday (probably redraw it from scratch).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 24, 2016, 06:10:52 AM
Another hatching:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/hr74y3px7m1bbih/hatched.png?dl=1)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 26, 2016, 08:52:03 AM
Another hatch filter made from scratch:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247541/h15-hatch.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247541/hatched-tones)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 26, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
Well these hatching filters are way over the top of the current filter editor, giving a hard time even connecting the right primitives together.

Probably will start another topic on hatching in general.

Until then here are the basics:


-original image with no filters-
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247545/apl.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247545/green-apple)



-two colormatrices with luminance to alpha added, so now it looks as a black aquarell paint over the background- 
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247546/apl2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247546/tone-filtered)



-after the two colormatrices component transfer is added, and the alpha channel is adjusted so it has a threshold effect-
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247547/apl3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247547/tones-threshold)


For each tone such sources are generated, and they are used to "mask" layers of different "fills" over eachother by composite-in, and merged together.
The previous "fills" in the example above used were these (https://openclipart.org/detail/247539/tones-7).

Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 26, 2016, 04:35:08 PM
Always testing the limits  :D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 26, 2016, 05:30:00 PM
Had made a file with the images separated into layers but somehow it didn't work.  :-S

Once it was set up right it would only take pasting objects into existing groups.

Maybe time to take a few steps back.
Like a 3 colour poster filter?




For fun, made new kaleidoscope wallpapers:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247558/kaleidoscope-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247558/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-4)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247560/kaleidoscope-5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247560/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-5)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247561/kaleidoscope-6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247561/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-6)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/247562/kaleidoscope-7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/247562/kaleidoscope-wallpaper-7)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 26, 2016, 06:15:35 PM
Oh, those are very nice!  Since I got my mouse fixed, I've been working on coloring pages and a couple of tutorials.  But I'm going to have install and look how you do that.  If I can figure it out, maybe I'll make some too!

Hey, did I ask you if you'd like a gallery album for these?  I think I mentioned it.  But just to be sure -- I can set up an album for filters in the gallery, if you like.  I know you like to use OCL.  But just let me know, and I can set up an album for filters.

The last one looks like tie-dye!  Weird display issue with Firefox.  Or is it Inkscape?  (see screenshots at full size)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 29, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Oh, those are very nice!  Since I got my mouse fixed, I've been working on coloring pages and a couple of tutorials.  But I'm going to have install and look how you do that.  If I can figure it out, maybe I'll make some too!

That should be as easy as in that animation. Pull two sliders in that component transfer,
tweak the turbulence settings on the top of the chain.
Change flood colours. That's it, everything else is set up.

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The last one looks like tie-dye!  Weird display issue with Firefox.  Or is it Inkscape?  (see screenshots at full size)

That is a rendering issue with cairo.
Surprisingly chrome renders some of those better, like this one (https://openclipart.org/download/247558/kaleidoscope-4.svg).


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Hey, did I ask you if you'd like a gallery album for these?  I think I mentioned it.  But just to be sure -- I can set up an album for filters in the gallery, if you like.  I know you like to use OCL.  But just let me know, and I can set up an album for filters.

Thank's! Yes, I prefer ocal because they have a large bandwidth and a large hosting server, that generates thumbnails of 2400 px width, using inkscape. Maybe that is too large for a thumbnail generally, and customizable thumbnail uploading has other possibilities but it takes twice the effort to upload the file, not counting the work of generating of those thumbnails.

Had also tried uploading to inkscape.org in the filter set category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=inkscape-filter-set/) but they render svg-s which is painful to load in.
Also no matter there are only 4 of those svg-s in the category, the download count is at five times more at ocal.

So currently I'm not planning to mirror those but who knows? Maybe I will upload them in the future in batches if there is a need.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 30, 2016, 12:50:42 AM
Edit - meant to make OT but forgot

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Thank's! Yes, I prefer ocal because they have a large bandwidth and a large hosting server, that generates thumbnails of 2400 px width, using inkscape. Maybe that is too large for a thumbnail generally, and customizable thumbnail uploading has other possibilities but it takes twice the effort to upload the file, not counting the work of generating of those thumbnails.

It has occurred to me to try and figure out how OCL does it (makes a thumbnail).  Maybe it can be used to make an SVG plugin for Coppermine.  Even if the plugin contained an entire copy of Inkscape, it shouldn't go against the license.  It's doubtful I could make the plugin myself.  Plus, I think there's some kind of issue about PHP....I can't remember the details at the  moment.  But I do plan to do some research.

Or maybe it's time to look for alternative gallery software.  When I first setup IC, CPG was the best choice by far.  But maybe there's something new since then??
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 30, 2016, 06:25:16 AM
For non-inkscape made svg-s they use webkit (?). Previously that was used for all uploads, but there were several issues with it so now they use inkscape for generating thumbnails for inkscape-drawn svg-s.
Suv mentioned you cannot render "inkscape-like" without actually using inkscape, cairo is not compiled the same way in another tool.

Thumbnail url-s are like
Code: [Select]
https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/246184/feather-and-egg.png

which you can edit to different sizes (undocumented feature/bug/safety risk(?))

Code: [Select]
https://openclipart.org/image/100px/svg_to_png/246184/feather-and-egg.png
:
(https://openclipart.org/image/100px/svg_to_png/246184/feather-and-egg.png)


Don't know much more about the technical details.
For more info you can try to mail them on the adress love@openclipart dot com.
(Can pm a developer's adress if the previous doesn't work.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on May 30, 2016, 03:40:57 PM
Some recent stuff.


Simple hue rotate filters in pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/249758/hue-rotate.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/249758/hue-rotate-filter-pack)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/249759/hue-rotate-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/249759/hue-rotate-filter-pack-2)



This one is more of a test image.
Produces veird behavior if tweaked.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/250172/invert-masking.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/250172/compositing-test)

Original idea was to merge objects together after one is masked, the other is masked with the previous mask inverted,
without the background showing through.

Guess that is the problem with all the anti-aliasing produced rendering gaps. semi-transparent pixels alpha values not adding up (https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/masking#SimpleAlphaBlending) to an opaque pixel. With different compositing it should work.


Namely similar to "add" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_compositing).
But cannot find that in the draft (https://drafts.fxtf.org/compositing/).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on May 30, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
A simpler example on that kind of blending/compositing:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/250219/composite-add.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/250219/compositeadd)

Note that there are only two lineargradient defs are present in this image.


Another on the requested "inverted masking" problem:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/250222/composite-masking.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/250222/compositemaskin)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on May 31, 2016, 10:04:04 AM
Nice!

Question -- Are those that are made with many multiple objects going to be resource hungry, when used in a drawing?  Like let's say someone made a drawing of soap bubbles, and they apply the filter to many circles.  Is it going to start cause slowdown, that is more than the slowdown they would see if they used individual gradients on the circles?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on May 31, 2016, 01:58:53 PM
Not sure what you are asking.
Rendering time relates to the number of calculated pixels with filters. The complexity of the image you apply on the filter doesn't really add up.
Filter is stored in the def section, objects use them just as they were custom markers/patterns/lpe-s, the way of "linking" is the same.
The rendering time/resource need is different, lpe-s are vectors, all of the nodes are processed when you select a path with an lpe.
Even if you see only a small part of it on screen but select it, you would need to wait for inkscape to respond on a complex lpe. 
Like a sketch lpe stacked on a hatches lpe, with a pattern along path on top for example...
Patterns may need less resources though.

Then, if you have a complex filter, with various blurring and convolution matrix, rendering time can be cut short if you zoom out.
Exporting at a decent resolution is what can take huge resources.
(The latter filter primitive is much affected by the zoom level. If you want to reproduce the same look on different zoom levels of the same object, it doesn't work.) 

By the way, good idea on a bubble filter.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on May 31, 2016, 02:25:33 PM
I mean like while you are working in Inkscape.  Let's say I'm making a drawing of soap bubbles, and I have....let's say 100 circles of different sizes.

Well, I don't know if keeping as circles would be better or converting to paths (4 nodes each).  But for this example, let's say they are paths.  And each circle has a gradient.  (Hhmm....this might make for a nice article....somewhere.)  I'm not sure if using the same gradient would make less performance problem than using 100 different gradients.  (I think I'll make a forum thread.)  And finally, if using a filter instead of gradient?

I'll make forum thread, so we don't hijack this topic.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 01, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
Playing around with turbulence again. Not so organized so there are no variants this time.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/250439/papr.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/250439/old-paper-filter).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on June 02, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
^
consider that tentacle logo stolen  :-D

Its awesome !
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 02, 2016, 03:20:08 AM
It's a bitmap traced variant of this one (https://openclipart.org/detail/240786/scissors-pattern-wallpaper).
Feel free to use it. ;)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Espermachine on June 02, 2016, 10:22:07 AM
It's a bitmap traced variant of this one (https://openclipart.org/detail/240786/scissors-pattern-wallpaper).
Feel free to use it. ;)
Right, now i remember seeing that earlier. Looks like the Predator cut off an Alien tail and made a funky walldecoration out of it   :-D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 17, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
Some random images with displacementfiltering:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/252502/displacement3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/252502/displacement-filter-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/252503/displacement4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/252503/displacement-filter-4)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on June 17, 2016, 04:45:03 PM
I wonder how the original image looked before you applied the filter, Lazur.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on June 18, 2016, 01:15:34 AM
Usually Lazur makes a link to OCL, where you can download the SVG and investigate  :)  (not text link - the image is the link)  I can't wait to see how he made this one!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on June 18, 2016, 03:35:13 PM
Thanks for the hint, Brynn!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 04, 2016, 03:38:59 PM
Another quick set of diffuse filters:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/254349/poly-shade.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/254349/diffuse-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 04, 2016, 09:04:01 PM
Oh, that's amazing!!

If you put a black background behind the photo, would the rendered image look like the face is proud of the surface, rather than etched into it?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 05, 2016, 05:38:10 AM
Again, these are hosted at openclipart with the original svg sources.
Openclipart is against embedded raster images, main difficulty on that previous 60's threshold filter pack and similar ones;
all filters are applied on vector content.
The mentioned one with Hendrix was an autotraced photograph, while this is based on a 3D model rendered to svg (original clipart is here (https://openclipart.org/detail/254263/low-poly-female-head).
More than that, it was necessary to add the blurring for transition between the tones,
because of the polygonal look, only that "wireframe" would stick out.

But yes, if the head wasn't grouped with the background it's boundaries wouldn't look ridged.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 30, 2016, 06:37:36 PM
Having seen a post (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30059) on making a wood grain pattern.
Easier to draw then to describe the process of the filter editing.
Maybe if I could screen capture it -sadly sharex prevents the filter editor to work properly so its out of my current possibility.

Anyway, made a few wood grain filters:


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/256775/wood-grain-pack-1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/256775/wood-grain-filter-pack-1)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/256778/wood-grain-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/256778/wood-grain-filter-pack-2)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/256779/wood-grain-pack-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/256779/wood-grain-filter-pack-3)


The second one uses the convolve primitive, and the third one uses diffuse lighting too but probably that doesn't come out -convolve matrix is affected by the zoom level-.


Altering the original pattern:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/256780/wood-grain.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/256780/wood-grain-filter-pack-4)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 30, 2016, 07:23:57 PM
Those look nice!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 30, 2016, 07:51:22 PM
And are useful to spice things up.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/256784/guitr.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/256784/guitar-remix)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 06, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
Made a pack of the previous gradient map filter.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/257320/gradient-map-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/257320/gradient-map-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 09, 2016, 07:07:22 PM
Another use of the wood grain pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/258055/1470795279.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/258055/wooden-triangle-tiling-2)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/258057/1470797576.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/258057/wooden-triangle-tiling-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on August 09, 2016, 09:46:30 PM
And probably a lot faster than actually carving the wood  :D

PS - I don't know if this is possible.  But fwiw.  When I'm searching for a wood filter, there's one realistic part that always prevents me from using a filter, and I end up drawing a custom woodgrain design.  Often when one sees things made out of wood, the wood grain is not consistently the same throughout the....whatever it is - furniture, a floor, inlaid design.  In some places, the grain will be very tight, like in your recent filters.  But other places the grain will be much wider.

I'm guessing it would probably be pretty tricky to make a filter which has a variable wood grain texture?  However, if it were possible, it could be very useful.  Hhmm....if I ever figure out how to make filters, I might experiment with making different kinds of wood texture...
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 10, 2016, 08:54:18 PM
wood grain filter megapack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/258435/wood-grain-megapack-fixed.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/258435/wood-grain-filter-megapack-fixed)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 11, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/258181/startile80.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/258181/wooden-triangle-tiling-4)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 21, 2016, 08:04:00 PM
This one is "filter in action".

Got sidetracked with descriptive geometry.
Had modified the render 3D polyhedron extension to have it 3 digit input for the rotation values, set it so a rendered cube's axises were at exactly 22° and 40°.
Then the original idea was to map ellipses with their axises right to the faces, sort of like with the Rytz-construction, and then came this which is more of the result of simply affine transforming clones of the parent cube.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259497/cube4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259497/)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on August 22, 2016, 12:59:59 AM
Well, I don't understand the math part.  But it certainly looks interesting!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 22, 2016, 09:00:59 AM
Following the previous offspring of cubic idea.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259508/cube8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259508/cube)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259513/cube10.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259513/cube)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 22, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
More filters in action.
Revisited the plaid filter concept as before (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2384#msg2384).
This time a displacement map is added and also the shading is affected by the original tones.
Not completely happy how the skin turned out as it has less contrast compared to the unfiltered one, but didn't want to tweak-troubleshoot the component transfer...

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259558/yl2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259558/lady-filtered-1)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259559/yl3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259559/lady-filtered-1)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/259560/yl4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/259560/lady-filtered-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 12, 2016, 06:41:29 PM
Some recent "in action" works. Sloppy as it can get, just playing around with the image filter primitive.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/261604/img3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/261604/generic-cross)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/261607/img4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/261607/generic-cross-v2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/261608/img5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/261608/generic-cross-v3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/261610/img6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/261610/generic-cross-v5)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/261612/img7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/261612/generic-cross-v5)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on September 14, 2016, 12:10:56 AM
Wow, those are amazing!

I'm afraid to try and open one, since this computer is on it's last legs (and the images load slowly, so they much be large).  But when my new computer comes (Friday) I should be able to handle these.  (8 big GB of RAM with space to expand to 16  :-D)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 17, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
Another test image on the image filter primitive and compositing. This time in a similar use to this one (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2490#msg2490).

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/262016/rendering2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/262016/compositing-test-with-filtering-2)

1428 lines define the filter in the defs section of the file, took quite bit to edit this together.
On the top half you see the source squares next to eachother, producing the rendering gap of "anti-aliasing",
while at the bottom there is one object filtered based upon them.
Each object is pulled in with the image filter primitive and compositing is used in arithmetic mode to build up the alpha values.

To test out the idea in action.
Probably it's not the best theoretic solution because where two object overlap a different colour is rendered.
Instead it would need a bit more separation between the objects and their alpha/transparency values.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 26, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
Back to the beginning (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2268#msg2268), sort of.

Pencil strokes -this time, by using lpe-s.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/262608/pencil-lpe-s.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/262608/pencil-lpe-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on September 26, 2016, 09:49:34 AM
Nice!  Those look very real -- pencilly.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 29, 2016, 01:06:35 AM
Thank's!

The lpe-s are not that handy though. They generate too many nodes which slows down the working and doesn't have a dropdown list as the filters to apply the same setting on other paths as well.

Recent pack of simple turbulence:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/262933/trippy.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/262933/trippy-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 02, 2016, 12:29:09 AM
Some of those put me in mind of 60's black light posters!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 11, 2016, 06:14:57 AM
Will get back to it. Have some ideas with the previous pack (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2431#msg2431). "Work in progress"...

Until then here is a quick one, trying to mimick fur textures:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/263749/furpack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/263749/fur-filter-pack)

 
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 21, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
Before revisiting that 60's filter pack, generating a variety of different fades between two flood fills;
duotone pack.
Flood fills can be changed at once by notepad++, by replacing the rgb values.
Definitely will make it with the mentioned previous pack's 64 pair of colours.
Also have the idea of combining it with turbulence.
Well and putting it into a kaleidoscope and animating the turbulence's values...
anyway, this is how it looks now:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/264703/1477123211.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/264703/base-duotone-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 21, 2016, 05:15:02 PM
I'm curious why you're using the checkerboard background.  It's one thing I've always liked about Inskcape, is it doesn't use that checkerboard to show transparency.  Any kind of solid background makes it easier to see.  Imo, a solid bg would "sell" your filters better.  Unless I don't understand something....

You've been doing such fancy stuff lately, that I don't always understand it.  When would someone want to use one of these filters, instead of making a gradient?  What is a good use case?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 22, 2016, 12:22:44 AM
Using checkerboard because if you open the svg with a browser white gets rendered behind.
No good for showing semi-transparent gradients, especially if one of the colours is white -as on its original (https://openclipart.org/detail/264468/gradient-base-4).

This filter does not produce a gradient, but maps a gradient on the object.
Only the base square has a black to white gradient fill.
You can use it to make images have a duotone look -as with that mentioned 60's pack.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 25, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
Strangely the previous filters were a bit off. Somehow the checkerboard shows through slightly even on solid areas.

Here it is a different approach solving that issue:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/265012/base7j.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/265012/base-duotone-pack-refixed-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 26, 2016, 04:55:51 AM
And finally, could finish these duotone packs to a megapack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/265086/sixties-duotone-filter-megapack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/265086/sixties-duotone-filter-megapack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 26, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
Let's see how two duotone shaded copy can mix -previous filter in action:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/265097/Bumper-Garden2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/265097/duotone-filter-test)

Original, colourful image is here (https://openclipart.org/detail/217431/abstract-bumper-garden).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 27, 2016, 04:54:42 AM
Wow - interesting - big shortcut!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 31, 2016, 04:24:31 PM
Newest one, "duotone filtered" turbulences:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/265324/dturbs1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/265324/sixties-duotone-turbulence-pack-1)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 01, 2016, 08:14:11 AM
Now, to post those turbulences in the 64 sixties colour set:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/265427/duotone-turbulence-megapack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/265427/sixties-duotone-turbulence-megapack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 04, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
For the 0.92 about screen contest (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85new-plane+1), just finished this:


(http://orig00.deviantart.net/2493/f/2016/309/6/2/about_screen__inkscape_0_92__by_lazururh-danfeph.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/about-screen-inkscape-0-92-644011829)

"Filter in action".
Uses the new blending modes, use 0.92 to open it.


Edit:
By second look the shading was off so tried tweaking it a bit:

(http://orig02.deviantart.net/9175/f/2016/311/2/3/about_screen__inkscape_0_92__by_lazururh-dannmr5.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/about-screen-inkscape-0-92-644395505?ga_submit_new=10%253A1478471263)


Edit:
Third variant:

(http://orig00.deviantart.net/d6cc/f/2016/313/9/e/about_screen__inkscape_0_92__by_lazururh-dantef9.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/about-screen-inkscape-0-92-644664645)


final edits:

(http://orig06.deviantart.net/b5ac/f/2016/316/e/4/about_screen__inkscape_0_92__by_lazururh-dao5vtf.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/about-screen-inkscape-0-92-645247059)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 12, 2016, 01:59:38 PM
Recent stuff.

Inspired by that old topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13941&start=25), made some wallpapers with a turbulence based filter.


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266325/wp1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266325/silk-wallpaper-1)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266326/wp2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266326/silk-wallpaper-2)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266327/wp3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266327/silk-wallpaper-3)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266328/wp4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266328/silk-wallpaper-4)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266329/wp5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266329/silk-wallpaper-5)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266330/wp6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266330/silk-wallpaper-6)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266331/wp7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266331/silk-wallpaper-7)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266332/wp8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266332/silk-wallpaper-8)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266333/wp9.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266333/silk-wallpaper-9)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266335/wp10.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266335/silk-wallpaper-10)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266336/wp11.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266336/silk-wallpaper-11)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266337/wp12.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266337/silk-wallpaper-12)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 13, 2016, 05:26:45 AM
Some of those thrown into a kaleidoscope:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266338/k1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266338/wrap-in-kaleidoscope)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266340/k2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266340/wrap-in-kaleidoscope-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266343/k5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266343/wrap-in-kaleidoscope-5)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266344/k6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266344/wrap-in-kaleidoscope-6)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/266345/k7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/266345/wrap-in-kaleidoscope-7)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 13, 2016, 06:46:21 AM
I'll have to figure out that Kaleidoscope LPE.  I played a little with Rotate Copies, but it takes a while to remember which options need to be used for which designs.  Just need to practice  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 28, 2016, 12:30:56 PM
weathered wood grain filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267513/weathered.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267513/weathered-wood-grain)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on November 28, 2016, 01:17:30 PM
Wow, those are very naturalistic, Lazur! (and extremely complex) Great work!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 28, 2016, 03:17:52 PM
Oh yes, I'm sure I'll be able to use some of those!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 28, 2016, 05:56:31 PM
Thank you!
These new blending modes really helping it.

Speaking of 0.92 somehow the one below renders off in 0.91.

chalk filter pack

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fnFDO6mUNGQ/WDze8STzDLI/AAAAAAAAAIE/BIgg7D-rPa4r1n1jBrCHWE5kT34TRfE5wCLcB/s1600/chalk.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267524/chalk-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 29, 2016, 03:35:29 PM
Another Chrisdesign (https://openclipart.org/detail/153619/stamp) remix with fancy filtering:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267547/st3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267547/stamp-remixed-2)


Funny thing is Chris took the same route with inkscape filters around 2008 (https://openclipart.org/user-cliparts/Chrisdesign?page=2).
Old paper filter (https://openclipart.org/detail/22158/old-parchment-texture), cloth filter (https://openclipart.org/detail/17184/textile-filter) etc.

V1nce (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12678) started in 2012 and Ivan Louette (https://openclipart.org/user-detail/ivan_louette) also in 2008?
Is there any improvement?

Noone other really cought upon it I know of nor the filter editor got updated.
In fact current pre092 produces crashes with undoing and other bugs with it that worked in 91.
At least we have component transfer and new compositing modes. Tile primitive too but I haven't worked with that one.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 29, 2016, 03:40:04 PM
I'll have to figure out that Kaleidoscope LPE.  I played a little with Rotate Copies, but it takes a while to remember which options need to be used for which designs.  Just need to practice  :)

That wasn't made with an lpe. Manual work as always.
Objects are different for proper overlapping. Check the svg for the details before trying to reproduce the look for hints.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 02, 2016, 04:46:08 AM
Another (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2271#msg2271) paper filter pack.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267676/paper-filters-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267676/paper-filer-pack-2)

This time the texture is the same, only the compositing differs for testing (https://openclipart.org/detail/267677/paper-filer-pack-2-test).

More info on the blog (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2016/12/paper-filter-pack-2.html).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 02, 2016, 04:28:52 PM
Gradient map filter pack (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2016/12/gradient-map-filter-pack.html).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267694/gradient-maps-echoes.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267694/gradient-map-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 02, 2016, 05:41:01 PM
I can see that paper pack being used to simulate antique or historic documents!

Rather than ask how you did it (because I probably won't be able to understand) I want to ask what kind of situation someone might want to use a gradient map filter, instead of just a gradient.  I do like those colors!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 03, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
For example when you make a gradient mesh and want to change the appearance in an easy way or
changing the colours of a raster image or anything that would be too complicated to do one by one.

Like this image was autotraced and consists of 2900+ objects:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267695/seashell-remix.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267695/seashell-remix)

Changing colours for a false  colour palette for a larger contrast, recolouring black&white images as heat maps or plots from matlab etc.
There can be alot of uses but you may need a better palette than that. Used just the Echo palette built in inkscape swatches, but if it was toned to metallic colours or to skin tones you could use it as a filter to colour something you shade with only black&white gradients.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 04, 2016, 05:50:05 AM
Just realized that gradient map filter pack had some errors with 15 and 16 colours so here is a remix:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267870/gradient-maps-echoes-table.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267870/gradient-map-filter-pack-table-refixed)


Here is a variant where the transitions were made "flat":

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267871/gradient-maps-echoes-discrete.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267871/gradient-map-filter-pack-discrete)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 04, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
Oh....yeah, I totally don't understand.  It's so frustrating, because I keep putting off things that I want to study, becaue I think any minute Courtney's going to finally give us the backups, and I don't want to get busy on something else until that's finished.  (argh!)

But thanks anyway  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 05, 2016, 10:18:04 AM
Hatches filter.

Based on the previous 16 coloured gradient map.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267900/sketch-16-filter--table-.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267900/hatch-filter-pack-2)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267902/hatch-test.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267902/hatch-test)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 05, 2016, 12:55:16 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267911/hatch-concept.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267911/hatch-concept)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 06, 2016, 10:59:20 AM
"Newsprint" filter:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267950/trihatch.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267950/newsprint-filter)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 06, 2016, 01:38:18 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267977/trihatch-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267977/newsprint-test)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267978/trihatch-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267978/newsprint-test-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267979/trihatch-5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267979/newsprint-test-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 06, 2016, 03:12:41 PM
So amazing!!

If I halfway understand some of the things you've been doing with filters, I'll bet the developers would be interested to see some of it.  I think they are particularly interested to see the limits of how Inkscape performs.  And some of what you've been doing, seems to me to be pressing the limits.

You might consider posting a bug report (since you're not subscribed to the mailing list), just to show these things.  If you don't want to make a post there, I might post on the user list, and specifically linking to the last couple of pages of this thread (where most of the things I don't understand are).

Just a thought  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 06, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
more halftones:


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267985/boot-5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267985/boot-remix-3)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267988/boot-7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267988/boot-remix-5)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/267989/boot-8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/267989/boot-remix-6)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 06, 2016, 04:03:29 PM
So amazing!!

If I halfway understand some of the things you've been doing with filters, I'll bet the developers would be interested to see some of it.  I think they are particularly interested to see the limits of how Inkscape performs.  And some of what you've been doing, seems to me to be pressing the limits.

You might consider posting a bug report (since you're not subscribed to the mailing list), just to show these things.  If you don't want to make a post there, I might post on the user list, and specifically linking to the last couple of pages of this thread (where most of the things I don't understand are).

Just a thought  :)

I have posted questions in the live dev channel about filter editor issues but it got zero feedback.
Current editor prevents every user from a good understanding of the use, and it prevents me from showcasing what exactly is behind.
This latest filter is made up of 157 filter primitives rigged together.
It is a tad bit hard to correct a wrong setting and improving on it.
Cannot zoom in or out, panning takes ages.
Cannot group together repeating subchains. Cannot label those and add comments here and there.
Cannot export the layout. Which looks and reacts so bad it hurts.

Bad editor prevents useage thus the number of actual users of it is small resulting in little interest from developers to improve on it.
Also in common there are no good filtered svg-s around as noone who use premade filters can tweak the settings and the resulting images are far from the top-notch quality.
Resulting people with skills abandone filters for good reasons.

Maybe I'll post bug reports on it sometime. So you say there would be interest in such images in the mailing list?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 06, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Well, the IRC is more for instant help type of things, rather than thoughtful, extended discussion.  If someone wants to dig into your filters, you might be gone by the time they finish investigating.  I'm not saying specifically on the mailing list.  I was just trying to think of the best way to show what you've been doing.  Maybe the gallery on the website, except there could be some size limitations.

If you don't want to get too involved, just post a link to some of the amazing filters, on the user mailing list.  Or again, I could do that for you.

But!  With your comments/complaints about the editor.....  If you have any suggestions how to improve the editor, that is clearly a Launchpad type of issue.  You could link to a few of your filters which test the limits, and post exactly the comments you just made, about most users not being able to figure it out, to be able to learn from looking at your examples.  And if you were to make a mock-up of a better editor -- Wow, I think that could really be well-received!  If you could make a mock-up, that could even be wiki content.  There's a way to use the wiki to make a proposal....I can't think what it's called.....  well I think it's just called a Proposal, here are examples:  http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Proposals.

That's the kind of thing that developers like to see.  You could always explain that you can't do the actual coding, but you'd be willing to work with devs who can.  (Or maybe you'd want  to learn about coding for the gui?)  Maybe there's a developer who is looking for new project, especially since 0.92 is about to be released.  Maybe it's a good time to start a discussion?  I know there's been a push to create a group who are interested in gui-related issues.  And that's what this is, right?  The function of the filter editor is fine, it's just the interface that needs improving -- right? 

Well anyway, I think there are 2 ways your work can help the project - one to show the power of Inkscape filters, and 2, to suggest a better interface or dialog (assuming you have suggestions).  You could post on the mailing list, with links to the most powerful filters, as a way of kind of "testing the waters".  And if it looks like there's some interest, you could go ahead with putting a mockup in the wiki, and a Launchpad report.

But again, just some thoughts  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 16, 2016, 02:11:25 PM
Thank's for the suggestions and help offer!
Guess I should join the mailing list someday.

Frankly it would be better starting it over from scratch than to add patches to the current filter editor.

On any mockups, the licensing is a roadblock. Openclipart where I would host them is public domain and cannot take other than CC0. Like not even sure if uploading the tool icons is ok with that.



Now for more hatching, filter in action:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/268572/hatch15.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/268572/hatched-apple)

Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on December 16, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
>On any mockups, the licensing is a roadblock. Openclipart where I would host them is public domain and cannot take other than CC0. Like not even sure if uploading the tool icons is ok with that.

Lazur, the Inkscape website is intended to be used for this (see https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=ui-mockup/).
Or you can create a blueprint on a Wiki page, or at launchpad. There are plenty of options :) If you need more than the allotted 10Mb of space for your upload at inkscape.org, just ping Martin Owens or me.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 17, 2016, 03:09:42 AM
Yes, I agree that the whole filters editor probably needs to be recreated from scratch.

The licensing of a mockup is entirely irrelevant (imo).  The mockup is just an example, not the real thing.  Plus, as Moini mentioned, the website gallery is designed to host mockups.  You could host it in both places, and it could have 2 licenses.  But again, for a mockup, the license isn't very important.  (well, maybe for a proprietary software, but not for open source)

Anyway, it's just that you have so much talent and experience with Inkscape by now, and especially with filters, but with lots of other areas as well.  And your understanding and knowledge could benefit the project on the development side, in addition to helping users.  I was just trying to nudge you towards becoming more involved, in case you wanted to, but maybe just need an invitation, or a little push.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 17, 2016, 05:02:45 AM
Hatching with a "snowflake based pattern" (https://openclipart.org/detail/268634/snowflake-pattern-remix):

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/268635/hatch16.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/268635/snowflake-pattern-hatch)

Somehow it got heavy on the rendering due to the pattern being constructed of 2000+ objects.
As used the vertical base cell of the second image of this post (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=173.msg3283#msg3283) for the pattern's handles to be aligned horizontally and vertically.
-Marked with the yellow snowflakes. Base "tile" can be much smaller, marked with the yellow rectangle in the centre, but then the pattern's handles need to be rotated for a horizontally aligned appearance in a random angle.-


Original pattern for the hatch is here (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=173.msg3284#msg3284).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 21, 2016, 05:05:09 AM
Yes, I agree that the whole filters editor probably needs to be recreated from scratch.

The licensing of a mockup is entirely irrelevant (imo).  The mockup is just an example, not the real thing.  Plus, as Moini mentioned, the website gallery is designed to host mockups.  You could host it in both places, and it could have 2 licenses.  But again, for a mockup, the license isn't very important.  (well, maybe for a proprietary software, but not for open source)

Anyway, it's just that you have so much talent and experience with Inkscape by now, and especially with filters, but with lots of other areas as well.  And your understanding and knowledge could benefit the project on the development side, in addition to helping users.  I was just trying to nudge you towards becoming more involved, in case you wanted to, but maybe just need an invitation, or a little push.


Thank's for the kind words. Surely I'll try getting into it in a way. Some plans for the future.
Off-Topic: show
Although I'd prefer some independence too.
Like the raster vs vector  didn't turn out so well. Content was already present and never published because reasons I don't understand. Text was't added with css or something similar? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1258842page request[/url)



Also, season greetings to anyone!

(http://orig07.deviantart.net/00dd/f/2016/356/b/4/plane_tree_by_lazururh-dasgkbq.png) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85plane-tree)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 22, 2016, 07:36:09 PM
New pack, for drawing contour lines around different tone levels of the source object.
Intended use with creating gradient meshes, to help the placement of the mesh nodes.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269461/luminosity-test-filter-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269461/luminosity-levels-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 22, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
Interesting!  So you would place the mesh nodes along these lines?  I've been working with just the opposite approach, and I would try to center the nodes between the lines.  I'll test this for you, but I'm just about to log off for the night.  Maybe tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 23, 2016, 02:11:27 AM
I see your point. If you increase the number of tone contours drawn then they would fall in somewhere there. Haven't tested myself either, and not so familiar where to place mesh nodes effectively considering the mesh topology.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 24, 2016, 03:31:56 AM
I was just thinking that the contour lines must fall at the point where the color change is at the maximum.  But the nodes of the mesh is where the color change is zero.

I'm going to try and download the apple image.  Or maybe find some other simple image and test it.

I'm almost finished with my first test of the mesh.  Of course, you know me, I'm aiming for realism!  So I need to find the right kind of filter to make the right kind of texture.  Or I might try an make the texture myself.  We'll see.  You could probably whip out a perfect filter for it.  But I'll see what I can do.  Oh, maybe I'll post it....didn't I make a topic for gradient mesh tests?  I meant to, but I might have forgotten.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 24, 2016, 06:52:15 AM
Can change the contour lines to have two different colours following eachoder, and then one could say add nodes to the white lines, and the black should be at the middle at the transition.

And posted a filter with that leaf in the mentioned topic (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=470.msg3316#msg3316).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 24, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
One could say add nodes to the white line.  But then, why make the black lines?

I finished my leaf, but need to take a break before I tackle another mesh!  They take a lot more time than I ever expected!  But soon I'll test it, I promise.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 24, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
Made a colour reduction pack, just as V1nce did a few years ago (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12678#p47923).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M8J7am8vI8E/WF8fmB8jxZI/AAAAAAAAAJg/ef8j3yQeGDMO3hK4d7kMQ5O-1P_BjN69ACLcB/s1600/colour%2Breduction%2Bpack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269523/colour-reduction-filter-pack)

Unfortunately there are a couple issues with it.
0.91 renders it off as on the openclipart thumbnail, zooming in more than 5000% blacks out the rendering and somehow the bounding box is off on the clones.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 25, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
Now another colour reduction filter pack.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uvw1frmnYys/WGBsfbURkpI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/nz0Az8B6n1kNzSC6UJ9ENT5kKExONIvQwCLcB/s1600/reduction%2Bpack%2B2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269579/reduction-pack-2)


Contrary the previous filter pack, which was made by one component transfer filter primitive this one is rather complex.
The last filter in the bottom right is built up from 113 filter primitives, of which there are 18 blurring.


Also, with this one there are other "issues" at openclipart.
They use 0.91 to generate thumbnails and it turns out that 0.91 had a transparent black alpha.
In the filter a component transfer is used to bring up the alpha values of the blurred appearance, and it results in a fading to black in ocal's thumbnail/opened with 0.91.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 25, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
A variant of the concept, with a blurring added into the chain.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LCoTXOebKi8/WGB5ymHShqI/AAAAAAAAAKM/3kJSFOghZ8os0RTRvt3MRIy5H6jGSbuFQCLcB/s1600/posterize%2Bpack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269587/posterize-filter-pack)

-rendering is off in 0.91-

This can be used better with photographs than the previous one, and 5 tones are enough to create a proper shading in a drawing.
There is a component transfer added in the link which can be used adjusting the filter to the original image's tones.
Will see how this pack can help creating gradient meshes.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 27, 2016, 03:36:47 PM
Could make some cool abstract art with some of those!  Especially the top-right.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 28, 2016, 05:17:41 PM
Made a megapack out of that weathered wood grain pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269726/wg-megapack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269726/wood-grain-megapack)



And some new variants on the previous triangle tiling:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269743/st5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269743/wooden-triangle-tiling-5)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269740/1482966901.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269740/wooden-triangle-tiling-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 29, 2016, 11:11:40 AM
Some glitch-art wallpapers with filtering:


(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XFCs1xLgx-I/WGVY81wmEQI/AAAAAAAAALU/0B4-7u_Ke74tQ5bzSLj4dDld2oYewO-zQCPcB/s1600/g1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269758/glitch-wallpaper)



(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BBtMzcXI5Ts/WGVZAJ-teNI/AAAAAAAAALU/f0MKwMjd6sgj7R95zH77AnPO1OypUuY7QCPcB/s1600/g2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269759/glitch-wallpaper-2)



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-O6o9gln2IxI/WGVZANVEOyI/AAAAAAAAALU/LtRnJfuxjMwr8pi3t8t2q-VEUbSvKfb1QCPcB/s1600/g3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269760/glitch-wallpaper-3)



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LW90yYtM-qw/WGVaTeSpcwI/AAAAAAAAALc/IVwn48l-50IvYBLPoDNEOm65YFi5cfwJgCLcB/s1600/g4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269761/glitch-wallpaper-4)



(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IoIPQLFkKyk/WGVZARoYqXI/AAAAAAAAALU/T8oLDJymqhsq0WyVDCXssfKfWRNN0lgBACPcB/s1600/g5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269762/glitch-wallpaper-5)



(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fyhOo0ocLxo/WGVZAfJ2HUI/AAAAAAAAALU/XzUnKYDddsIuHcBf9lC77K2l0k1o9NASACPcB/s1600/g6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269763/glitch-wallpaper-6)



(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8kXIftwfSOo/WGVZAud5kNI/AAAAAAAAALU/bvTsvjwJxXgbEn88xsMN7RW9LA89gD_zgCPcB/s1600/g7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269764/glitch-wallpaper-7)



(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SajtQ5NmmfY/WGVZAn-AX2I/AAAAAAAAALU/LPpHbE1Sar4sdqx7051fAsnUeEdqfQyxQCPcB/s1600/g8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269765/glitch-wallpaper-8)


Use latest prerelease with this because 0.91 renders them badly due to an issue with the alpha compositing -"transparent black".
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on December 29, 2016, 12:54:35 PM
"glitch art" - reminds me, I should finish something I've done with the spiro spline scribbling.  I just didn't know there was a word for it!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 29, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
From that other post (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=472.msg3339#msg3339), here is the result
-kaleidoscope background reworked from scratch.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269776/kaleidoscope-base.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269776/kaleidoscope-base-remixed)

This time, no cloning is used for repeating tiles to minimize the number of unnecessary transformations, however preserving the filter transformations is painful.
As there are issues with it (https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1653185).

Same as with the intarsia design, it would be so much easier if there were handles to adjust the filters just like the pattern fills.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 31, 2016, 01:31:40 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/269995/1483215801.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/269995/happy-new-year-2017)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 05, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
Colormap filter extension testing.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/270134/colormap-testing.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/270134/colormap-filter-testing)

Yes, that's right: inkscape will be getting this feature to generate colormap filters into extensions/modify color/adjust/colormap.
At least that's where it is located now -extension made by su_v, available at gitlab:
https://gitlab.com/su-v/inx-modifycolor (https://gitlab.com/su-v/inx-modifycolor)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 05, 2017, 07:04:52 PM
Here is another example made with the extension, based on groups coloured with the tweak tool:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/270139/generated-colormap.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/270139/random-generated-colour-map-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 13, 2017, 05:37:04 PM
stone filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/270572/stone-palette.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/270572/stone-pack-colours)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on January 13, 2017, 05:46:29 PM
Those look very realistic!
The majority seems to be different sandstones and shale. Could also be suitable for moon and mars surface :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 13, 2017, 06:54:06 PM
Oh, those are fantastic!!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 13, 2017, 08:42:26 PM
Thank you!
Will make a "megapack" from it with different texture variants.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 14, 2017, 11:23:22 AM
And here it is:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/270604/st-1-16.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/270604/stone-filter-megapack)

Pack of 1024 filters. Not so satisfied with all of them, but in every colour scheme there are filters that look decent.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on January 14, 2017, 12:01:42 PM
I think I'll need a faster computer.... ;-) That's enormous!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 14, 2017, 12:40:19 PM
Those don't look the same as the first pack.  I wonder why?

Edit
Yeah, I learned my lesson about installing whole packs.  There's just not enough room.  I've decided to just install specific ones, when I need them, rather than have so many hundreds not being used.

Although that first stone pack really might be worth it!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 14, 2017, 01:28:34 PM
I haven't installed any of these.
Whenever you need one filter, open up the pack, and copy/paste the objects with the right filters.

Otherwise you don't have a filter preview so it's pointless to have them in a dropdown list. And it's pointless because going down a list of 1024 or 1296 names in a list takes forever.

This one wasn't the exact same as the previous? Yes, it was, with 15 new texture variants added to each colour schemes.
The previous one is a "sub"pack of this.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 14, 2017, 06:11:08 PM
Here's how the first pack looks:

 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Here's how the 2nd one looks:

 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Open Clipart has the same display.  I'm using Firefox.  I could test with IE, but it doesn't seem to be a browser issue.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 14, 2017, 07:00:08 PM
1st one is 1200 px / 1200 px.
2nd is 9600 px / 9600 px.

In every block of the same colour scheme in the second row the first square has the same filters, named as "s9".
Did you open the file or just looking at the thumbnails?

First pack "really worth it" contains 16 filters.
The latter contains 1008 more.
Maybe if the thumbnail was in the same scale as on the first one it would be more worthy?
Generated thumbnails are 2400 px / 2400 px, meaning that the second one would need a 19200 px / 19200 px thumbnail to fit with the other's scale.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 15, 2017, 04:56:45 PM
stone texture in the background generated with one of the filters in the previous megapack

(http://orig14.deviantart.net/909c/f/2017/015/b/2/fibonacci_shell_by_lazururh-davk5a4.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/Fibonacci-shell-657669820?ga_submit_new=10%253A1484527496)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 15, 2017, 07:15:02 PM
Those are screenshots of the forum messages.  They both appear the same size in the forum.  So I guess you're saying that you scaled the thumbnails for the 2nd pack. before you uploaded?

Oh, when I said it was "really worth it", I mean the filters are so good, I'd be willing to give up the space to have them all installed.  I do realize the the 2nd pack contains the same filters, and something clearly went wrong with the thumbnails.  "worth it" isn't a comment about the thumbs, but about the filters.  Or were you teasing me?  I don't know why jokes and sarcasm go right over my head, so often.

Very nice iterations!

It puts me in mind of a zebra.  Like the shape and arrangement of the spirals looks a little like an equine head and neck.  And that reminds me of an artist, whose name I can't remember, but who does (or did?) landscapes, and paintings of nature environments, like a forest scene.  But when you look closely, you'll notice that there are other kind of figures, sort of hidden in the painting.  Like one of them is a forest scene, which has something like 20 different faces hidden in it.  But you have to look carefully, because it's really a stone cliff, or trunk of a tree, of foliage, for example.  But by arranging certain features of the cliff or tree trunks, it creates the illusion of a face, or whatever.  Another one I remember has several horses hidden in it...I think it might be a western landscape, but I don't remember for sure.

All I can remember is it's a female painter.  Although I'm sure other artists have done similar things.

Anyway, I was looking at higher zoom, so I can see some of the details.  There are a couple of places where I'm not sure if the coloring is intentional or not.  I made a couple of screenshots.  The 3 very thin gold strips, at certain places (pink circles) are not so gold anymore.  In some places, it seems like it might be intended as a shadow.  But other places, I'm not so sure.

Without saving the image, I can't zoom enough to be sure (and the area goes outside the forum's "viewbox" for images at high zoom).  But the 3 small spirals on top, the one in the middle doesn't seem to have any gold at all.  I'm not sure if the brown is a different shade, or it's just without the gold, it seems different.

I like the "teeth" or gear-like spikes on the outside edges.  But there a couple of curious places - some seem to have shadows, others not.  In blue circles.

Still very nice work though.  Most people maybe don't notice.  I just point those, in case were overlooked.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 16, 2017, 06:02:40 PM
Another try with the blocky concept (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2294#msg2294).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271010/1484614493.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271010/overlay-crack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 17, 2017, 02:51:40 PM
stone filter in action

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271063/keep2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271063/keep-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 23, 2017, 08:14:37 PM
This is a "filter in action" image, although nothing that fancy filter wise.
Although it might be a handy pack collecting such dusty filters? Worth a try.
Castle made for a weekly challenge currently themed on castle (https://www.facebook.com/groups/inkscape.org/permalink/10154736338476578/?match=I2lua3NjYXBlY2hhbGxlbmdlNzA%3D).

Technical note:
---raster image embedded is 6973 px tall.---
(And by the way the original svg linked is 53 MB.)
(http://orig00.deviantart.net/32b4/f/2017/023/c/6/castle_by_lazururh-dawizcx.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271527/castle)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on January 24, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
Lazur, I start wondering about your hardware specs ... I assume that, for architecture, one needs a high-end computer nowadays?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 25, 2017, 07:21:44 AM
Lazur, I start wondering about your hardware specs ... I assume that, for architecture, one needs a high-end computer nowadays?


Off-Topic: show
I'd consider it the high end of the middle range[/url].
It's a 3 year old samsung laptop with i5-3210M cpu  6GB ram and a radeon HD 7600M graphic card (and a few burnt in screen pixels).
Using an ssd because two complete data loss with hdd-s.
With a laptop cooler it can digest bigger works but I hardly been at its limits. Probably rendering these images (http://orig07.deviantart.net/02c3/f/2015/079/f/a/t20k_by_lazururh-d8mem5y.png) took the most resources.


The cad program I have to use is notorious for resource heaviness but haaven't been working on really large projects with it.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 25, 2017, 07:39:02 AM
Those are screenshots of the forum messages.  They both appear the same size in the forum.  So I guess you're saying that you scaled the thumbnails for the 2nd pack. before you uploaded?

Off-Topic: show
Thumbnails are generated automatically at openclipart, main reason why I like for hosting images there.
Each thumbnail used is generated at 2400 px on its larger side, which on a downside renders pixelated when your work is in a portrait format and higher than a certain size -as thumbnails are scaled to fit horizontally.

Embedding them here automatically downscales them by the forum engine -see size information added to the img tags.



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All I can remember is it's a female painter.  Although I'm sure other artists have done similar things.

I know Rob Gonsalves (https://www.facebook.com/RobGonsalves.Official/) from the contemporary.

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Anyway, I was looking at higher zoom, so I can see some of the details.  There are a couple of places where I'm not sure if the coloring is intentional or not.

Those were totally intentional as without that bit the image would look more flat.

However if you zoomed in you can also see the shadows are off.
The top shells on the right cast drop shadows mid-air just as they supposed to cast shadows on the other shells below them.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 25, 2017, 04:11:38 PM
Oh, I found!  Bev Doolittle, and this is the one I was thinking of:  http://www.greenwichworkshop.com/details/default.asp?p=32&t=1  There are others too, but I didn't find a site with all work, just some.

Couple others:  http://www.greenwichworkshop.com/details/default.asp?p=60&a=20&t=1&page=1&detailtype=artist
http://www.greenwichworkshop.com/details/default.asp?p=39&a=20&t=1&page=1&detailtype=artist
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 26, 2017, 08:20:30 PM
blackboard filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271609/chalkboard-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271609/chalkboard-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 26, 2017, 08:21:26 PM
chalk filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271610/chalk-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271610/chalk-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 26, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
chalk filter in action

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271613/planechalk2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271613/chalk-drawing-2)

-after a bit of modification.
As the original chalk filter only altered the look, keeping the fill attributes, this one uses a flood fill for a "hard-coded" greyscale base.
Quite an easy modification to make, that's why I didn't make a full separate pack from the previous chalk filters -which there are 33 now if I calculate right.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 27, 2017, 01:28:34 AM
Very nice!!

You know, I heard they don't even have blackboards in primary school anymore.  I can hardly imagine a schoolroom without a blackboard!  Yeah, I'm old....
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 27, 2017, 02:51:19 AM
Yes, it has changed in some places (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD7LWU8Mn7A).

However chalkboard art (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chalkboard+art&t=h_&ia=images&iax=1) will still be a thing for a long time.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 27, 2017, 05:47:18 AM
edit - making off topic
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Wow, is there really such a thing as in the video - that digital-looking board?  Or is that just a cartoon fantasy?

From what I've heard, schools use dry-erase boards now.  But if there's such a thing as that, I guess really elite schools or colleges might use them, those that can afford them.  Here, most schools are dreadfully underfunded....sadly.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 27, 2017, 07:17:20 PM
Another stone filter pack, kind of like a polished granite collection.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271647/stone-pack-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271647/stone-pac)

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Wow, is there really such a thing as in the video - that digital-looking board?  Or is that just a cartoon fantasy?

Probably technology exists although it is not in common use.
Here such changes -throwing away the well working for something more complicated hightech solution with a year lifespan- are made usually, connected the corruption. There was a scandal a few years ago of alot kindergartens getting chocolatemilk proof keyboards, way above price and for hardly any practical reason.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 28, 2017, 07:31:55 AM
nonfigurative textures filter pack

(http://orig09.deviantart.net/1682/f/2017/028/3/e/nonfigurative_filters_by_lazururh-dax0eyf.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271664/nonfigurative-texture-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 28, 2017, 08:39:40 AM
Stone pack 2

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271666/stone-pack-5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271666/stone-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 28, 2017, 11:39:42 AM
stone pack 3

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271670/stone-pack-6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271670/stone-pack-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 28, 2017, 06:30:39 PM
stone pack 4 in the row:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271676/stone-pack-8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271676/stone-pack-4)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 29, 2017, 05:35:07 AM
stone pack 5

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271687/stone-pack-9.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271687/stone-pack-5)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 29, 2017, 05:45:05 PM
Recently made two filtered images but ocal couldn't render it in an hour? Oh come on.

Will post the thumbnails soon here.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271743/roller.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271743/paint-roller)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271744/brush.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271744/paintbrush)


-originally it was a remix of other's paint roller and paintbrush images, superimposed on a canvas to serve as a thumbnail for a clipart collection.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271695/canvas.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271695/oil-and-canvas)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 29, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
An old image remixed with a recent stone filter:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271745/fortress.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271745/fortress-remix)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 30, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
Another "in action" shot.

(http://orig04.deviantart.net/9c11/f/2017/030/4/f/bird_sculpture_by_lazururh-daxcj03.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/bird-sculpture-660673587)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on January 31, 2017, 01:23:35 AM
I don't know if you intended this.  But it looks just like one of those.... I guess is sort of a toy.  I remember seeing them beside the cash register at lunch diners, when I was a kid.  Maybe they were some promotional gimmick by a salesman or supplier for the restaurant, I'm not sure.

It bends at the "hips", where the blue and white "wings" are.  And there's a glass or bowl of water in front of it, and it's weighted so that it bobs up and down, looking like it's taking a drink.  I guess it was sort of perpetual motion thing, because if it wasn't broken, it would bob up and down forever.

Very nice work too!!  Maybe I'll switch out the front page of the gallery.  Just kind of a fun image for a while!

Edit
Hah!  But Wikipedia says not perpetual motion  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 31, 2017, 06:39:37 AM
Yes, that was intentional. Even got one of those.
Off-Topic: show
Some of the liquid escaped from the glass making it not functioning fluently.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 31, 2017, 03:48:10 PM
clouds pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/271827/light-clouds.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271827/light-sky-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 31, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
glass pack

(http://orig02.deviantart.net/b6ef/f/2017/031/9/3/glass_block_filter_pack_thumbnail_by_lazururh-daxfvob.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271832/glass-texture-pack)

This one has way more possibilities however the settings are't so well organised inside. Probably will make more variants/rework it from scratch sometime.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 01, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
more fractal noise based ones

(https://orig12.deviantart.net/f633/f/2017/032/1/d/clouds_by_lazururh-daxjz02.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271861/cloud-pack)

(https://orig15.deviantart.net/c8b7/f/2017/032/0/5/fire_and_dust_by_lazururh-daxjzji.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/271862/fire-and-dust)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 01, 2017, 07:12:24 PM
Oh, those are really inspiring!

I have a bizarre abstract drawing that's been in progress for a year or so.  Haven't gotten back to is since the new computer odessy (sp?).  I might have to throw some of those filters into it.  With green, they might even work for abstract trees or bushes.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 01, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
I'm curious how that would fit.
These are a bit heavy for rendering though, even if the basic idea was to give a better go both with this (https://openclipart.org/detail/225030/white-cloud) cloud and with this (https://openclipart.org/detail/228039/stardust) stardust one.

It is in plan (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/filters.html) to make vegetation filters, evolving from the soil (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2404#msg2404).
It is a challenge with the current editor and with slow rendering to add in realism. Like the latest stone pack (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg3523#msg3523) was using 11 flood fills and 16 turbulence filter primitives? And it'd be merely just an overlaying layer for a more complex texture with 3D shading and with more texture variations.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 01, 2017, 08:46:42 PM
Well, I haven't actually installed and inspected how the filter is made.  But if the white part could be green, it might look look bushes or trees from a distance.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 07, 2017, 07:50:25 PM
previous filters in action

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272239/two2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272239/chalkboard-quote)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 08, 2017, 03:06:40 AM
fire

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272255/1486551327.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272255/fire-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 08, 2017, 03:28:32 PM
...and ice fog.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272304/heart-of-winter-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272304/heart-of-winter)

Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 09, 2017, 09:41:38 AM
simple dithering and displacement filters

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272359/dither.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272359/dither-filter-pack)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272384/displacement-turbulence.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272384/displacement-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 11, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
...and ice fog.

AND ice.


(http://orig10.deviantart.net/9323/f/2017/042/1/c/heart_of_winter_by_lazururh-dayqg9x.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/heart-of-winter-663002853)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 11, 2017, 07:02:06 PM
Oh that is so cool!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on February 11, 2017, 07:12:23 PM
Agree with Brynn :-)

Lazur, what's the font you used for your signature?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 11, 2017, 07:34:23 PM
Thank's!

It wasn't a font. Mocked some tibetan uchen script (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uchen_script).
Can't recall the exact source so here (http://inkessential.blogspot.hu/) is a large collection of beautiful calligraphy.

(On a side note I'm not too satisfied with that signature. Just couldn't get it better at the moment.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on February 11, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
I like it :) What a pity that it's not a font (yet ;-) ). I also love the detail of the frozen mist.
If I /were/ looking for something to criticize, then I'd say that there's a bit of depth missing in the crystal. It's something about the borders that makes it look a bit flatter than I think it's intended to be (but of course, I don't know - and I'm not looking, it's good!).
But the picture is among your best ones, for me, with all the details that you paid so much attention to, and with it telling a story. And then - doing something like this in Inkscape! It's amazing.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 13, 2017, 05:01:07 AM
Oh, I just had a streak of inspiration.  It seems so real, I just had the urge to reach out and remove one of the chunks  :D

For Moini's comment about somewhat flat look, it could be just an ever so slight blur could help.  Extremely slight blur.  Or maybe slight shading around the outer edges of the whole heart.  Heck, you probably have a handy filter for that   :-D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 14, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Actually there was a layer of filter adding in a tint to the edge, but it's set to a light colour for a frosty effect -most noticeable where the top frost layer is transparent; top right or bottom left.
Planning to make variations on it and sharing the svg but without the background and the defocus filter because those are making it even more complicated if possible.
Since the background image was pulled in with an image filter primitive to the heart too.

So have to come up with a simple backround image first -something as simple as a linear gradient or stripes etc.


Recently looked at all the filter presets since I never got a track of them. Made test images, trying out every single one of the 292 on three objects -the test coffee maker, a small group, and another one with transparent fading gradiented edges.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/272916/bevel-1-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/272916/bevel-14)

-there are a total of 73 such collections. Would look out of proportion in a top to bottom ordering (https://openclipart.org/detail/273043/all-092-filters).

This is how they would look next to eachother:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/273045/all092filters2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/273045/all-092-filters-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 17, 2017, 03:31:57 PM
overlay filters

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/273118/overlay-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/273118/overlay-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 17, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
heart prism -check source for svg:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/273145/heart-prism.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/273145/heart-prism)

-or if the rendering is too much on your machine (due to the background image had a filter applied), here is one wich should render easily:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/273146/heart-prism-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/273146/heart-prism-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 17, 2017, 08:09:32 PM
OMG, Lazur!!  How long did it take to draw that first heart, the first time?  It looks like that should have taken days to draw it.  I'll have to get the SVG, to see how you did it.

If there's anything that doesn't work about those, it's the background white glow.  The white glow is in the middle of the page.  But I think would work better if it were behind, or almost behind the left lump of the heart.  That's because the biggest white glow in the heart is in the left lump.  And the red glow goes a little bit past the middle of the heart.  But in reality, the white glow should have pushed the red glow aside, if you know what I mean.

Now that's going to be the new front page image for the gallery!!  Would you mind uploading those 2 to the gallery?  I would put the first one on the front  page, but also have a link to the 2nd one, in case people can't see it, for some reason.  I see it just fine with Firefox, btw.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 17, 2017, 11:43:52 PM
There was no white glow just a vignette effect with a similar filter above in the overlay pack. Background image can be changed to anything else, preferably to a photograph but openclipart can only take vectors so it wasn't an option.

Heart is the exact  same as it was with the frost (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg3695#msg3695), just removed half a dozen filters from it.

Drawing an overlapping Voronoi triangulation (https://openclipart.org/detail/272514/voronoi-triangulation) was the harder part -still not perfect, but was good for a start.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on February 18, 2017, 01:49:18 AM
Well, there might not be a white glow object, but there's a glow there, that was somehow created.  Or maybe it's light blue area that doesn't have any shading.  If I can just finish catching up with email, I'm going to download it.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 18, 2017, 03:53:53 PM
glow filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/273224/yellow-glow.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/273224/glow-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 25, 2017, 06:54:46 PM
Simple bump filter, upon request at irc.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/274037/simple-bump.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/274037/simple-bump)

Aaand, now something "completely different".
Let's test out the forum's video embedding option -screen captured the process:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TGAWYKVLxQw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[youtube]https://youtu.be/TGAWYKVLxQw[/youtube]

Hmm neither them seems to work, the insert youtube video is not in the post editor panel either.

Anyway, the video should be here (https://youtu.be/TGAWYKVLxQw).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 25, 2017, 08:18:29 PM
Another "upon request (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=532)":

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/274038/donut.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/274038/donut)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on February 26, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Those glow filters are fun, Lazur! The kettles remind me of floating objects in a ghost story :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 26, 2017, 07:21:03 PM
For the "protrusion" kind of filter had to split the coffee maker from the group.
Real fun when the filter is animated (but how?).

Filter in action, some dragon speed drawing.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/274080/d3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/274080/smc-dragon)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 26, 2017, 07:22:17 PM
pack of donuts

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/274101/donut-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/274101/donut-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 27, 2017, 04:25:19 PM
diffuse pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/274135/diffuse-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/274135/diffuse-filter-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 09, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
more donuts:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275080/donut-pack-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275080/donut-pack-3)

-this uses gaussian blur to generate the bumpmap, unlike the previous one using luminosity

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275079/donut-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275079/donut-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: k-drive on March 09, 2017, 03:11:26 PM

The donuts in that Gaussian blur set look very realistic.

Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 10, 2017, 05:11:39 PM
Thank's!

Recent packs:


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275159/stone-pack-10.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275159/stone-pack-10)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275166/stone-pack-11.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275166/stone-pack-11)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 10, 2017, 05:23:59 PM
Also with that stone filter set to different flood colours, some metallic grunge:


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275196/copper-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275196/copper-pack)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275197/c2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275197/metal-pack)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275198/1489192180.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275198/metal-pack-2)



-Started this topic a year ago, with a similar filter collection (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2282#msg2282). Even if it's not the best one, hope the improvement is noticeable.

By the way, getting slightly off topic, will the two forums merge in a year time? If not, maybe I better start mirroring this topic there?
Frankly noone seems interested in using filters in inkscape. Probably I better off draw anything, but semi-finished material.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 11, 2017, 09:14:24 AM
"glitch" filters

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275230/glitch-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275230/glitch-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 11, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
hatched teddybear

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/275228/m2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/275228/teddy-hatched)

^this one is a "flattened" image, as I couldn't make it with filtering only and no raster images.
The problem was somehow inkscape couldn't pull in a group of objects with the image filter primitive, so used a bitmap copy of the hatching layout for the filter, created a raster copy of the result and bitmap traced it.
Here (https://openclipart.org/detail/275227/teddy-hatched) is the in progress image with the issue, if you want to check it.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 11, 2017, 02:49:53 PM
Off-Topic: show
By the way, getting slightly off topic, will the two forums merge in a year time? If not, maybe I better start mirroring this topic there?
Frankly noone seems interested in using filters in inkscape. Probably I better off draw anything, but semi-finished material.

No one seems to know about the new forum.  I guess I missed the last board meeting being sick.  And I haven't looked up the transcript to find out if it was discussed. 

But the bottom line is that the project has no server which can hold the new forum.  Devs don't want to have the forum on a different host from the website.  The current host of the website apparently has no interest in hosting a forum.  Devs don't want to move to a new host, or seriously investigate self-hosting, or take any action at all, at least up until now.  It's just in limbo! 

Personally, I'd rather have it on a different host, temporarily, until the server situation can be ironed out.  But I'm ready to push a little harder than I have been up til now.  I mean, I didn't want to offend anyone, not being all that experienced with community development.  But this is seriously ridiculous, by now.  I'm losing my patience, and I'll probably start to push harder for some action, now.

I did have a comment from doctormo (Martin) at the last board meeting I attended, about wanting to investigate a Django forum again.  He did manage to get more space for the website, and I think he wants to try and put a new forum on it.  But to me, the website is still too slow.  And adding a forum would just make it slower, and the forum would be slow too.  And I don't think the forum community, who are accustomed to decent speed, would tolerate it for very long.  And as we've seen, things move very slowly sometimes. What I mean is that even if we put a new forum on the website, with an agreement for better speed "soon".  "Soon" might never come.  People would get frustrated and eventually someone would start up a decent php forum again.  And then we'd be back where we started.

Well anyway,  I can't speak to how much interest there is in filter use.  I do think you've done an amazing job with all the filters you've been making!!  They really are so much better than some of the ones that are packed with Inkscape!  If I were to make any other comments besides that, it would be to maybe try to make a single filter which would be flexible enough to provide all the variations that you've been providing by the packs of filters.  So instead of a pack of filters with all the subtle variations, a single filter which can be varied using the Filter Editor, might be easier for people to use.  Maybe include a few notes which ways it could be edited to produce the variations (like in a readme file or something).

As for starting a topic on IF for your filters, I'm just not sure.  I think the whole forum issue is up in the air, almost as much as it was in the beginning.  (We haven't been able to contact Courtney again either, although we haven't really tried lately.  I don't know why bother, until we have a server to put the backup on.)  I might be getting a new server soon.  And if I do....well, there are a lot of "ifs", but at least it would be a place to put the backup.) (I was close to getting the backup on my current server, but when it came right down to doing it, my host balked.  But I suspect I'd have better luck with a different host.)

Whatever happens, I still intend to make sure that all 3 of these forums (including ICD) are combined into one.  (as long as we don't loose touch with Courtney again)  So that nothing posted in any of the forums will be lost.  (Although a lot of ICD might end up in read-only mode. And also some various pruning to bring IF up to more current needs.)  Realistically, they probably can't be combined all at once, because they are on 2 different software.  So one would have to be converted.  But it should be fairly easy to find someone to do the conversion on a one-time basis.  It just won't happen all at once.

Well, in the end, it's up to you.  But starting to mirror your topic on 2 forums, will just be one more thing to fix, when they finally are all merged.  I would leave it as is, for now.   But it's up to you.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 11, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
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Thank's for the info!

Shared the latest metallic grunge filters at the facebook inkscape group;
the second response was:
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Great. but it´s not seamless yes?

So probably people think these textures are restricted to a 300 px / 300 px square size?
With that much care what would happen if I'm pointing to the recent filter editor, suggesting to "change the fifth turbulence's base frequency from 0,018 to 0,236? It's ridiulous as is.

 
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 12, 2017, 01:26:07 AM
Hahaaa....Well, I wouldn't take that one comment as evidence for what everyone thinks.  It's just that guy.  And  I wouldn't think it was so much that he doesn't care, but that he just hasn't learned exactly what filters are, or how they can be used.  Clearly he has them confused with tilable raster textures!  He just needs to learn. 

(But I do understand your frustration.  It rubs me the wrong way to see people making comments like that, who clearly don't know what they're talking about, and they're acting like they do.)

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change the fifth turbulence's base frequency from 0,018 to 0,236

I would understand that.  And while a newbie might not get it right away, the user community could help them understand.  Or I'd be glad to help you write the instructions for variations in newbie-speak.....well, here and there anyway.  (I've just made so many commitments to the Inkscape project, and they'r all on hold without any clues when I can actually start the work.)  So if they all come due at the same time, I'd be pretty busy.  :f5: )

But anyway, I wouldn't get too concerned.  I think a lot of the community, the part of the community (which doesn't use forums) has no idea about all the filters you've been making, yet.  Personally, I'll probably be using your filters a lot, in the future.  It's just that I've committed myself to some projects on the development side, and don't have as much time to pretend to be an artist ( :wink1: )  But I know I'll be using them.  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 17, 2017, 06:25:39 AM
Thought I'd give the egg filter pack (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2390#msg2390) another go to see if I can do better...
well, I could, Cairo couldn't. It just chokes even on command line export at small resolution.
Can hardly zoom in for 100% zoom level.

Here is a long rendered screenshot of the top half:
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 17, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
Got "finishhed" stopped working on it.

(http://orig06.deviantart.net/b89a/f/2017/107/1/0/easter_egg_pack_by_lazururh-db67u81.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/Easter-egg-pack-675571393?ga_submit_new=10%3A1492482884)

Started as a decent, organised one and ended up being a mess.
Cairo renderer refused even to export a 20 px/20 px image through command line the original image.


Initial filter was an "all in one" -generating the 4 colour painted texture, the bumps on the surface, deformed the egg shape, added the 3D shading, some defocus on the edges, and a dropshadow. (Before the 3D shading was made by a separate filter, which was even worse.)
Background is also filtered, and it has an overlaying filter atop.


Conclusions:


Looking at it again the bump texture seems to be applied only over several colour spots? Oh well couldn't care less.
If ever, I'd rework it from scratch. Current filter editor makes it impossible to track the rigging.


Edit: uploaded the svg to the inkscape gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85egg-pack-2017?c=1399).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 25, 2017, 04:22:07 PM
Just finished collecting Xav's filtering related tutorials.

-download link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3d7ik4ogx3wlx4/filtering%20guide%20by%20Xav.pdf?dl=0)-

Will definitely have to read this through again once I start making tutorials for filter editing...
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 28, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
"in action"

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/ht.png) (http://orig07.deviantart.net/534b/f/2017/179/d/7/heart_filtered_by_lazururh-dbeea3s.png)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on June 28, 2017, 07:26:01 PM
This one I'm not so satisfied with, but sharing it anyway.

 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Made with gradient meshes, and a "metallic rust" filter atop. Was planning to stitch this to the heart but it wasn't that good.
Not the mesh, nor the filter in that scale.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on June 29, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
I think the faucet is very effective and realistic. The only part that doesn't work for me is the heavy black stroke on the bottom sections.

Oh, I didn't see the heart image before.  Would the faucet be inside the heart, or above it?

Amazing filters, Lazur!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 01, 2017, 06:51:45 PM
Ideally the faucet could drain the ink from the container and pour it to the canvas.
But now that you mention it, the concept can take another perspective -a real landscape can be drawn inside the crystal so it would build up an "inkscape".

Stepping forward, made these recently for the filtering "manual":

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/render/T_001_filtering.png) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85t-001-filtering)

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/render/T_002_filtering_2.png) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85t-002-filtering)

-if you click on them you can read the description.
Maybe these could be collected in an article?
Don't want to "spam" this topic with it, and as it's still in development can't really estimate how long it will be.
And how would it be displayed best.
Trying to stick with the blog's layout as seen here (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2017/07/introduction-to-filters-2_2.html).
One image which is 800 px wide and 500 px high, with svg source linked and paragraph next to it, maintaining the text-image proportion.
These introductionary images came out "quite ok", compared to the following ones where I'll have to put "soon to be ditched" screenshots of 0.92.
It is a challenge because of the paragraph length to write complete tutorials/organise them right.

The hosted svg-s are containing the same text outside the viewbox and with some page background, for a possible base layout for publishing as a pdf (which can be build upon for a print-ready file).



tl;dr:
I haven't started the rest of the series yet, one step at a time. Don't have a draft for the chapter titles either, although I know a direction to go by.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 01, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
Wow!  Nice work!
If I would make one comment, it would be the transition from wood to lead.  Usually it's on an angle (because pencil not usually sharpened perfectly centered) (yeah, I know they use graphite these days - shame, shame - lead is much more useful).

Of course you're welcome to use the Articles/Tutorials feature here, if you like.

Hey, I didn't know you started a blog!  Did I miss the announcement?  Or you didn't announce?  Nice illiteration (I love illiteration :) )

That's the most minimalistic blog I've ever seen.  Hard to navigate to older posts, can only browse one at a time.  Lost patience trying to find the first post, to find out when you started it.

I'll get it linked up here.  And there's probably some place on the website where we could put a link, if you like.

You might as well have the manual on your blog, right?  I'll definitely add it to our collection (whenever it's finished)!

Looking forward to the filters manual.  Congrats on the blog  :D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 02, 2017, 02:20:32 AM
Wow!  Nice work!
If I would make one comment, it would be the transition from wood to lead.  Usually it's on an angle (because pencil not usually sharpened perfectly centered) (yeah, I know they use graphite these days - shame, shame - lead is much more useful).

Of course you're welcome to use the Articles/Tutorials feature here, if you like.

Hey, I didn't know you started a blog!  Did I miss the announcement?  Or you didn't announce?  Nice illiteration (I love illiteration :) )

That's the most minimalistic blog I've ever seen.  Hard to navigate to older posts, can only browse one at a time.  Lost patience trying to find the first post, to find out when you started it.

I'll get it linked up here.  And there's probably some place on the website where we could put a link, if you like.

You might as well have the manual on your blog, right?  I'll definitely add it to our collection (whenever it's finished)!

Looking forward to the filters manual.  Congrats on the blog  :D



Thank's!

I know the pencil has plenty of issues regarding a photorealistic look. Previously made this one (https://openclipart.org/detail/271689/pencil-drawing), and that curly pencil (https://openclipart.org/detail/265220/no91-pencil), and it took some hours to build it up again from scratch. This one is using gradient meshes, which was a new rout I took.
It's good for representing the basic idea. May I draw better looking pencils sometime. And may the filtering options help it more.
(For example stretching the wood grain at the edges to simulate a curved surface now is taking plenty of head scratching.)


Started the blog almost a year ago. Haven't announced it yet "big time".
I wrote it in for my homepage at my openclipart profile (https://openclipart.org/user-detail/Lazur%20URH), and linked to posts on it at inkscape's g+ page whenever I felt it was worthy.

-Just checked, indeed my very first post was posted exactly a year ago (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2016/07/lets-get-started.html), however the first with actual content was up only in August (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2016/08/paper-filter-pack.html).


It's not the regular "by date" ordered blog, just an inventory of ideas that I always pick up on time to time -at least that was the basic idea.
Like, in that iterative art topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13514), where I tried to build upon concepts originating back to my teens. As none of those are maxed out, there is plenty of room for improving.


At the bottom of the "main page" you can see the list of pages -there is only 2 currently:
one was recently renamed to repository of custom svg filters (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/filters.html) and the other one (quite empty yet) is about tutorials (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/tutorials.html).

The site's layout is preventing me to use a sticky post on the main page. If I understand right I could only reposition the list of pages part to be on top in order for a better visibility.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 04, 2017, 07:33:26 AM
Refined a bit that previous rusty filter and included it in the next part of the series (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32615#p99546).

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/render/T_003_built-in_filters.png) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85t-003-built-in-filters)

Took quite a while drawing this though as what you see as a screenshot now is 100% vectors...
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 21, 2017, 07:19:25 PM
New hatching filter -representing 36 luminance levels, quite smooth-, in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOQzTSrBZak&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOQzTSrBZak&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 23, 2017, 01:32:55 AM
Awesome work, Lazur!

I'm a little afraid to look into how you made it, haha.  But I guess a lot of people will find it useful :D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 23, 2017, 02:29:12 AM
It is similar to this one (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg3234#msg3234).
Only difference it uses 36 lightness steps instead the 16 before.

However I won't share the original svg very soon this time.
"Lack of interest", so to speak.
-76 views; only rating is one dislike; one comment is of inkscape being sloppy in general and another who just come by advertising their instagram page.-
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 23, 2017, 04:44:13 AM
I suspect they'd get more and better attention in the gallery on the website.  But I understand that you have issues with the structure there.

I just don't think you can expect much from oca.  No offense, but it seems like a lot of wanna-be's there.  What you need is a better audience!  I don't know how your blog is hosted, but if you have the space, you could install your own Coppermine Gallery.  And believe me, there are ways to set one up that look much, much better than how I have IC's set up.  They can really be configured to look like a professional gallery.  (Like here's (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/) one set up for photography.)

You don't happen to have your whole collection available as either a single huge, or 2 or 3 very large files, do you?  I'd love to have the whole collection locally.  But you've made so many packs now, it would take some time to download one at a time from oca.  I only have a handful so far.

There's another feature of the  website gallery where anyone can upload a link to anyone else's stuff (whatever it happens to be).  The problem is that you can't have a thumbnail.  Or else, I'd upload links to all of them myself.  Maybe I'll ask about that....we'll see.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: flamingolady on July 23, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
I love the filters Lazur.  Have used several, esp would like more in iron, variety of colors for rusty iron, would prefer to add my own stroke.  The gaussian blur donuts are fab, esp for a Krispy Kreme gal, lol.   I'd like to see the new wood grain for the pencil too.  and your eggs are fab.
Like Brynn said, would like to see all of your filters in one place, I think I've been to various places and that gets confusing. 
To be honest, I rarely go to people's blogs in general, (have been to yours), I prefer to go to known website pages, esp since I tend to have issues with downloading, or how to use or whatever.  I esp like filters that I can use in making wood grain, stone, rocks, that sort of thing in nature.  Your bear was really interesting.  Kinda looks like it's made from thumb and fingerprints.  Cool design. 

Just comments: I'm thinking newbie's might have a harder time figuring out how to download/use filters, how to chg the parameters, etc.  And the adv users might not want to use one to create an image that isn't 'theirs', for re-sell reasons, if that makes sense.  Wonder if it would help to say that they have the gen. open license for personal and commercial use (GPL?).  Not everyone is familiar with the OC site.  So if they get a direct link to your filters, they may not know if they are licensed, free, etc.  How many people actually delve around into these large sites to figure it out after all...

Keep on keeping on.  Maybe one day someone will do an in-depth tutorial for filter newbies like me, and I'll learn how to create a filter from scratch (though that's not looking good at the moment, lol).  I think you are working on some writing in that area too, right? but I need it 'really' dumbed down!   :lol:

dee
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on July 23, 2017, 08:30:34 PM
Re the license - everything on Open Clipart, where he hosts most of the filters, is public domain.  (Or i.e. if you don't want your image to have a public domain license, don't upload to OCA!)

For installing filters, here's the FAQ #2.18. (https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#how-install-new-extensions-palettes-document-templates-symbol-sets-icon-sets-etc) on the website: 

Yes, you're right.  Lazur's working on a tutorial right now (see on his blog).  I haven't read Tav's tutorial, but I'm pretty sure I gave you a link to it.  But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little advanced.  Someday I'll get around to reding it, haha.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on July 24, 2017, 01:26:39 PM
Thank's for the kind words and feedback!

Yes I had started to write a filtering guide, currently stopped a bit at "page 11".
It is available from this page (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/tutorials.html) or as a forum topic here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32615).
The images are hosted at inkscape.org, and each of them is an svg image, the pencil one too -yes, the whole gui is represented as full vectors and the filter is present as well in the file. And the text. In a format similar to the one in the blogspot page.
For licensing the icon set and logo, released it under copyright.

Bet til this point the guide can be covered with a 3 minute long video.
Maybe once heading to patreon I'll invest in a microphone and time for video editing. (Not in the near future though.)

You can check Xav's "filtering series" collected here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11981&start=125#p99431) with the comment why it's not official.
My personal opinion is he covers the functions of editing well but it doesn't give you a hint how to make like realistic looking textures.
I'll try to focus more on practical workflows aand shout out for a decent node based editor because the current development is heading to a complete opposite direction. Maybe if I can point out a few basics it can be more conveying.



Edit:
Updated the very first post (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2267#msg2267).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 13, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Experimenting with filter animation.

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/rabbit_hole.svg) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85rabbit-hole)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 13, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
Experimenting with animations:

(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/h12.svg) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85colourful-inks)



"I’m dreaming of coloured inks" (http://www.magyarulbabelben.net/works/hu/Kosztol%C3%A1nyi_Dezs%C5%91-1885/Mostan_sz%C3%ADnes_tint%C3%A1kr%C3%B3l_%C3%A1lmodom/en/62065-I%E2%80%99m_dreaming_of_coloured_inks)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on August 13, 2017, 06:48:05 PM
Wow!

Which type of animation did you use? 

Probably not gif frames.  But if it was, the very last frame is the color scheme I like best (seems to be more red) followed by the one that seems more blue.  That's for the heart.  I almost missed the bunny.  The bunny is down right psychedelic!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 13, 2017, 11:56:22 PM
Used <animate> tags to modify some filter primitive settings.
The first one has a hue rotate going on for 3 seconds from 0 to 360,
while the latter has a turbulence's seed value animated from 0 to 1000 in 100 s, while one hue rotate alters one flood fill in 30 s and another hue rotate changes another flood fill in 25 s.
Therefore theoretically the exact same image is rendered in only every 3000 s=60 m=1 hours.
The two main colour input matches in every 75 s, although they are altered by the turbulence as well (a blend primitive is used).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 14, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
(https://openclipart.org/download/284968/tvnoise.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/284968/tv-noise-animated)

(https://openclipart.org/download/284967/testimage.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/284967/noisy-testscreen-animated)


Somehow always messing up animating a filter chain so instead adding the basic primitives in on an empty file, adding the animation in notepad++, and editing the filter on after in inkscape; then copy-pasting a filtered object from one file to another. Sounds complicated but that's the easier way.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on August 15, 2017, 07:35:29 AM
Some day, I will figure out how you did those.  So bogged down with site issues and Inkscape development projects, don't have time right now.  But, I definitely will try!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 17, 2017, 08:18:28 AM
Another "huerot" animation. (https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/endless15.svg) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85endless-knot)


This time didn't add a gradientmap fiter "subchain", so it is supposed just to rotate the spectrum -while maintaining a constant luminosity level. Which still seems a bit off.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 17, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
(https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/endless17.svg) (https://inkscape.org/en/~Lazur/%E2%98%85endless-knot-animation-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 20, 2017, 04:38:24 AM
(https://openclipart.org/download/285238/1503228749.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/285238/frog-on-a-lily-pad-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 20, 2017, 05:53:29 AM
(https://openclipart.org/download/285239/Crane-3.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/285239/crane-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on August 20, 2017, 07:04:24 AM
Wow!  Awesome!

Not sure if it's an illusion or a browser problem.  But around where the legs go into the water, and the reflection of the legs, there are some weird anomalies.  Also, I don't understand the bull's eye or target effect.  Wouldn't it really be 2 smaller ones, one around each leg (where it goes in the water)?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on August 20, 2017, 01:57:08 PM
Tried the concentric waves around both legs but with the intersections it didn't look good either.
The leg reflections are also limited by the filter as you cannot fix them at a certain coordinate. These are examples of what can be achieved and not that polished illustrations.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 13, 2017, 03:33:24 PM
For the 80th weekly challenge in the fb group, "alone":

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/9669/f/2017/256/b/b/lighthouse_by_lazururh-dbnbqfe.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/lighthouse-704306570)

-I know the details could be improved but can't help it. Tweaking the filter settings when zoomed in doesn't work, nor stirring the mixture of elements due to the lack of rendering power.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 14, 2017, 12:44:54 AM
City skylline generated by filtering.
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/286799/city.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/286799/city-skyline-reflection)

Had to use 2 objects because of the reflection though.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 16, 2017, 07:15:16 AM
More animated waves:

(https://openclipart.org/download/286961/city7.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/286961/city-skyline-reflection-animated-2)

(https://openclipart.org/download/286963/city8.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/286963/city-skyline-reflection-animated-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on September 17, 2017, 10:42:32 AM
Something isn't displaying properly with the last message.  Not sure if browser for forum?

Oh, it's an animated SVG!  Probably Firefox then.  Attached screenshot to show what I see.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 17, 2017, 11:07:57 AM
It's firefox, chrome/chromium renders them.

As always they were embedded with the link to the original svg-s;
they are hosted at ocal, with a thumbnail generated with inkscape.
See how they supposed to look when they are "stopped":

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/286961/city7.png)

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/286963/city8.png)

-as in this post (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/)-
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 17, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
Another one coming from a different topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32947):

(https://openclipart.org/download/287050/gas6.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287050/gas-filter-pack-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 18, 2017, 08:06:34 AM
This one is too much to render as an svg so ermbedding the still image instead:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/287051/fr2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287051/animated-turbulence-filter-pack)


And here it is how it should work alone:
(https://openclipart.org/download/287064/ph1.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287064/purple-haze-animated)
-using the first one in the second row from the pack-
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 18, 2017, 03:26:21 PM
More animated distortion filters, in a pack:
-click for the animated svg source, this one is static thumbnail only-

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/287100/ag1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287100/distortion-filter-pack-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on September 19, 2017, 06:59:07 PM
Aww, wish I could see those tan/brown skyline animations  :(
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 23, 2017, 07:33:13 AM
lightning pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/287478/thundr.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287478/lightning-filter-pack)

same base filter with animation

(https://openclipart.org/download/287483/thundr-anim-3.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287483/thubder-bolt-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 23, 2017, 02:23:56 PM
diffuse filter pack

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/287527/1506201556.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287527/diffuse-filter-pack-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 23, 2017, 05:06:42 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/287528/d6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/287528/yinyang)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on September 23, 2017, 07:56:28 PM
 :hp:

(gave you a custom title - you don't have to keep it - can change in profile (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=profile;area=forumprofile;u=14)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on September 24, 2017, 03:16:51 AM
Thank you!  :dt:
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: flamingolady on September 26, 2017, 09:22:06 AM
Very cool.  My old laptop doesn't render so well, (might do better if they were smaller),  but I really like these.  very imaginative and some cool use of colors.  The lightning turned out so well too, I can see that being used in Halloween stuff coming up.  keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 06, 2017, 08:09:38 PM
Thank's!

Design-wise it's very limited what this kind of animation can cover -it was the exact same kind of "wavy" animation -using a hue rotate animation over a fractal noise and using that as an input for a displacement map.
Other limit is by the browsers rendering speed/flickering. Would need some research how to capture these animations to animated gifs.
Batik was mentioned by MC over the irc, haven't dug into it.


Newest pack -quick one, drawn within two hours-:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288326/watercolour.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288326/watercolour-filter-pack)

Edit:
Openclipart uses a previous inkscape version to generate thumbnails, so made an export for the intended look.
Issue is probably related to component transferring and the alpha channel.

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/546e/f/2017/280/b/c/watercolour_filter_pack_by_lazururh-dbprzif.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/watercolour-filter-pack-708424071?ga_submit_new=10%3A1507372492)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 08, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
More painting, with less fluid paint:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288427/paint-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288427/painting-filters)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 08, 2017, 05:44:55 PM
Third "in a row":

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288435/worn-paint.png)



A closeup of the bottom-most filter tweaked a bit:

[url=https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/paint-filter-708761195?ga_submit_new=10%3A1507510797](https://orig00.deviantart.net/8a48/f/2017/281/d/f/paint_filter_by_lazururh-dbpz7mz.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288435/old-paint-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 08, 2017, 09:45:20 PM
Oh, I like those.  I'm always looking for a filter to add to a solid color, to simulate natural things, especially foliage.  But some could be used to simulate bark as well.

Oorr.....are those overlays?  Or like overlays?  You mentioned "painting".  I'm not sure what painting means in this case.  But that one where it's all gray, but still showing a bumpy outline of the coffee pot and apple and camera.  That one gives me the idea about foliage.  The last one gives me more the impression of tree bark.

Oh, the one right under the gray one, that looks very watercolory.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 09, 2017, 02:43:43 AM
Off-Topic: show
With the amount of time invested in it's a bit of a bummer how these are misinterpreted. Maybe I should rather use these to create new images instead of sharing the source goods in packs.


By overlay you mean a filter that would affect the background image? That's better be avoided as it take ten time more resources to render. Practically it doesn't work.
Just add these to images with a nice colour flow in their fills -smooth transitions like gradients are preferred-. From that matter it works best with photographs.
I'm not sure what painting means in this case.
The output is intended to look as it was painted.
With oil on canvas or whatever, some have transparency/holes for the worn/weathered effect.

Here are some painting details for compare:
(https://media.overstockart.com/optimized/cache/data/product_images/GS2840-1000x1000.jpg)
(https://swallastudio.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/swalla_ikigai1.jpg?w=501&h=504)  (https://fasoimages-4cde.kxcdn.com/55571_2196808w750.jpg)
(https://i2.wp.com/www.louissmithart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Angie.jpg?resize=825%2C425)
(http://l.rgbimg.com/cache1r0xJS/users/w/we/weirdvis/600/n9CMb8C.jpg)
(http://www.your-decorative-painting-resource.com/images/DryBrushDeerfootLayer1.jpg)

You are right, having looked for these reference images after, the brush strokes of the oil paintings are more evident in their details.
It's more of a gouache with dry brush then?

(https://dailypainters.imgix.net/560/cottonwood_country_colorado_landscape_oil_painting.jpg?h=495&w=475&fit=clip)

Would make a tree bark pack just for compare but now there are others in the same list -one that adds a shading like a bugs back, one that resembles concrete, some carving in filters, foliage (a newer this one (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=470.msg3316#msg3316)) and tree bark. 
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 09, 2017, 03:26:42 AM
I meant "overlay" like in the Filters sub-menu.  Not using an existing image behind, but just using a solid color behind, and the filter creates the effects.  See attached.

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So for example, the first one.  To me, that looks like leaves scattered on the ground.  (called "Frost"!)  So if I made the background color something more like brown or golden, it might look more like leaves on the ground.

For foliage, I was think of something that looks like a tree or bushes from some distance.  Like in the bottom image you posted above, those trees.  So I might make a roundish object with plenty of randomness, color it green, and the filter would make it looks something like the leaves from a distance.

For bark, I have to admit that I'm a bit of an expert.  I hold (very dated) BS in Forestry 1980.  I've always wanted to make a photographic study of tree bark.  Unfortunately, I only recently got a decent kind of camera.  So don't have the energy to travel the country and collect photos.  It's just something I find very interesting - the variations among species, and even the variation on a single tree, varied by age.  Last years growth will be very thin, smooth, and greenish.  As we move down the tree, at older and older bark, it gets thicker, sometimes darker, and all kinds of variations.

But anyway, don't go to any trouble on my account.  There already is one filter of bark.  Not  ideal, but ok (looks to be some softwood or coniferous species to me).  So anyway, don't go to a lot of trouble.

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Quote from: brynn
I'm not sure what painting means in this case.

The output is intended to look as it was painted

Oh, I was thinking like "raster paint".  Now I understand better.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 09, 2017, 04:01:32 AM
For the pointilism example - I couldn't say how many times I've looked at that image, over the years, but this is the first time I notice the monkey! 
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 09, 2017, 05:06:26 PM
I see. For such an "emission shader" -kind of useage svg filters don't work so well, there are certain limitations of arealistic look. Stylized one, sure thing.

Anyway, another go at the organic looking:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288443/leaf-7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288443/leaf-remix)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288444/leaf-8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288444/leaf-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 09, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Oh yeah, that's awesome :D

Why are there limitations?  (if it can be explained in a simple way)

PS - nice Norway maple leaf there (Acer platanoides)  (or some horticultural variety)  :-D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 14, 2017, 07:11:23 AM
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/f19f/f/2017/287/d/1/leaf_wallpaper_2_by_lazururh-dbqj9q9.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/leaf-wallpaper-2-709697025?ga_submit_new=10%3A1507989291)


There are limitation of the complexity.
Even making as simple as a paper texture it takes compositing a flood fill into a fractal noise, some displacement and blending it with another flood fill.

For a layer of tree foliage, it would take to generate the "cropping" with a series of fractal noises not to make it look too obvious or at least to look somewhat similar to leaves -next to eachother with no overlapping.
Do the same several time, to generate the "shades" of lighter and darker ones and then maybe place them atop eachother?

No, that wouldn't be enough.
A tree is a "foam" of particles -leaf- within a more-or less spherical shape.
So, what would be the input for the filter besides the shape of the filtered object?

Some blurring added in to that to create a lousy 3D feel with diffuse lighting. That would only result in a single solid spherical shape with no depth.
So instead of generating a single 3D, first that would take to be cut to smaller chunks.
Twice, with inverted colour direction -as you can see through the first layer of leaves and see the "back" of the sphere from the inside.

Then, when all chunks are separated, could be breaking down the shading to separate generated layers of leaves.

Maybe the original fill could also add in an overlay effect -which would also take the ridiculous amount of compositing, displacement and tweaking to look somewhat conveying in the result.

All in all it's a bit more complex than a camouflage filter (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2377#msg2377).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 15, 2017, 01:24:28 PM
Well, maybe when I finally get around to learning how to make my own filters,  I will understand it better.  But in any case, it would kind of take the fun out of creativity, to have filters which give a completely realistic appearance.  I would be perfectly satisfied with either one of those last 2.  Well done!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 15, 2017, 03:11:22 PM
Thank's!

Actually that's the same filter as before (https://openclipart.org/detail/288443/leaf-remix), just rendered with 0.92.
The colours are coming from the filtered object's fill mostly for the leaf pattern.

Making custom filters is not so complicated -only the gui is a mess.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 16, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
Went back to the guide series (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/p/tutorials.html) to extract this faucet.
Some hatching filter to ditch the gradient mesh
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288729/faucet-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288729/faucet)

and some animated waterflow:
(https://openclipart.org/download/288730/faucet-4.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288730/faucet-waterflow-animated)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 16, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
Metallic textures

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288731/glossy-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288731/glossy-pack)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288732/glossy-pack-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288732/glossy-pack-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288753/glossy-pack-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288753/glossy-pack-3)

-in relation to this old post (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2282#msg2282).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 18, 2017, 08:36:25 PM
This one qualifies more as a work in progress, since I couldn't export it to a png.
The hammer is heavy.

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/3cff/f/2017/291/4/3/sledgehammer_by_lazururh-dbr125q.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/sledgehammer-710527022)

svg sources:
source 1 (https://openclipart.org/detail/288820/sledgehammer)
source 2 (https://openclipart.org/detail/288821/sledgehammer-2)
-for those who can give me a lift.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 19, 2017, 03:55:50 AM
I'm not sure how it happens, but it looks heavy!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on October 19, 2017, 04:07:39 PM
Lol, still exporting.... 10 minutes already.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on October 19, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
Do you have any recurrent filters in this...? Stopping it now, after 25 minutes...
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 19, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
Recurrent filters?
Wanted to try out the previous glossy metal texture (https://openclipart.org/detail/288753/glossy-pack-3) on the hammerhead; added a grunge overlay by probably this pack (https://openclipart.org/detail/275198/metal-pack-2).
The background is an overlay of a watercolour filter (https://openclipart.org/detail/288326/watercolour-filter-pack), with two blocky filters (https://openclipart.org/detail/271010/overlay-crack) below, with another two filters below if I can recall.
One stone filter (https://openclipart.org/detail/271670/stone-pack-3) with an overlay.

The white contour has the grunge paint filter from this pack (https://openclipart.org/detail/288435/old-paint-pack), and the wood comes from here (https://openclipart.org/detail/271744/paintbrush).

Basically those were used, with blending modes and turbulence parametres adjusted to the image.
Probably the blending mode on the background image as an input is the real resource-killer.
Strange thing is, it renders relatively easily at 100% zoom level on screen, while hardly exports at 96 dpi.
Better stitch screenshots instead...

With all seriousness it needs a more robust renderer. With a rendering cache and a way to divide the process into parts that can be calculated in a reasonable time. With gpu support and whatnot.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on October 20, 2017, 07:29:51 AM
Thought there might be some loop... But probably just much too much to render for cairo. Maybe post a bug report? It's weird that it renders well on screen, and then doesn't export at same resolution.

I agree about the graphics card rendering and parallelization, but can't do anything about that...
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 20, 2017, 09:09:02 AM
Revisiting this one (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2603#msg2603), adding in some animation.

(https://openclipart.org/download/288863/displacement-7.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288863/displacement-filter-animated)

(https://openclipart.org/download/288862/displacement-4.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288862/waving-orb)

(https://openclipart.org/download/288861/displacement-6.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288861/waving-blue-animated)

Uses the same hure rotate based animation as the crane one (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg4972#msg4972), almost everything is identical in the setup for that matter.
That being said, the base of the animation is the huerotate filter primitive over a spectrum gradient.
However it theoretically should look fluent, the hue rotate itself isn't -as can be seen in the knot (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg4938#msg4938). There had to tweak the lightness with blending to be even, yet the saturation got messed up.
Then, a component transfer was used to extract the red channel so it would occure moving. Converted the luminance to alpha and used that as a source for the displacement map.
Problems are the following:
using the image filter primitive -better be avoided, for copy/pasting;
the hue rotate produces messed up results in action,
and the red channel doesn't map the whole spectrum range -which was the reason behind using it.
So probably, will have to look into animating gradient instead.
More so, that's how it was done (http://www.pixel-issue.net/2010/12/old-school-8-bit-color-cycling-with-html5/) in the golden age of cg and it should render fluently.


Thought there might be some loop
A loop would result in an instant crash as with the image filter primitive I guess.
All the blending and background image inputs could have been eliminated if there was a way to stitch two filters together, preferably with an option to label the subchains.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 20, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Scratched paint on rusty metal emboss text effect, inspired by V1nce (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12678&sid=cf341cc00e76093e5d0c9df33afbc299#p49063).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288865/scratched-emboss.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288865/3d-scratched-metal)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288866/A-emboss.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288866/a-embossed)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 21, 2017, 03:15:30 PM
watercolour packs

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/6b47/f/2017/294/d/7/watercolour_filter_pack_thumbnail_by_lazururh-dbraui1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288918/watercolour-filter-pack-2)

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/f787/f/2017/294/c/9/watercolour_filter_pack_thumbnail_by_lazururh-dbrav92.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288919/watercolour-filter-pack-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/288930/watercolour-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288930/watercolour-filter-pack-3)

-bit of a flashback to the first page (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2281#msg2281)-
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 22, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
Newest one was about to be a grass filter, similar to this vein (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12678&start=25#p53522).

Got waay too complex and out of hand.
Either a decent filter editor is necessary for this kind of stuff or breaking down the chain to the smallest possible sections.
For example it takes a minute in the grass filter to move a new filter primitive from the bottom to the top by drag&drop.
There are 173 primitives in the chain. There is no way of tracking whatsoever.

Anyway, here is this mess -with grass leafs generated:
(https://openclipart.org/image/500px/svg_to_png/288972/grass-test.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288972/grass-filter-test)

Also attaching an export with 0.92 for comparing with ocal's export with 0.91.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 23, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
A remix of a flat clipart using mostly the same filters as with that maple leaf (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg5504#msg5504):

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/288993/plant-remix.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/288993/plant-remix)

Note, that the full size thumbnail rendering got stuck at ocal and it should have slightly more detail through inkscape 0.92.


-original unfiltered image can be found here (https://openclipart.org/detail/288314/leafs).


Edit: added another background with a "simplified" filter (which should render "easily"):

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289206/plant-remix-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289206/plant-remix-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 27, 2017, 01:57:37 PM
Some fancy displacement map filters:

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/670f/f/2017/300/8/0/lime_by_lazururh-dbrw7t2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289144/lime-remix-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 28, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
An organic pack:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289205/organic-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289205/organic-filter-pack)

and a variant of it:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289207/1509217047.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289207/organic-grunge-background-filter-pack)
-turns out the embedded image (thumbnail from ocal) is slightly off... again, use inkscape 0.92 for the correct rendering of the svg.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 28, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
Reusing that fabric pack (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg2285#msg2285) in this image's background:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289215/1509234462.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289215/houndstooth-12)

Didn't use cloning for the dropshadow so cannot adjust them further. Other than that, the object overlap so there shouldn'r be any "rendering gap" issue crossing a thread.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 29, 2017, 04:46:48 AM
I've run out of adjectives!  More really awesome work!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 30, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
And I'm running low on motivation and interest.

"I’m dreaming of coloured inks" (http://www.magyarulbabelben.net/works/hu/Kosztol%C3%A1nyi_Dezs%C5%91-1885/Mostan_sz%C3%ADnes_tint%C3%A1kr%C3%B3l_%C3%A1lmodom/en/62065-I%E2%80%99m_dreaming_of_coloured_inks)

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/c18f/f/2017/303/d/0/watercolour_drops_thumbnail_by_lazururh-dbs7zx3.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/Watercolour-Drops-Thumbnail-712530327?ga_submit_new=10%3A1509399610)

svg source for a larger variety of shades (https://openclipart.org/detail/289293/fifty-shades-of-watercolour)

Also as an update to that houndstooth pattern, reworked it from the basics with an improved structure.
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/d484/f/2017/303/6/7/houndstooth_patterns_by_lazururh-dbs7v68.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289289/houndstooth-16)

Off-Topic: show
For what end? Almost reached the limits of this whole topic. Pushing it too hard into nowhrere with no apparent reason. No wonder I'm looking back even to the very first filters packed. OK, so now I can remake them much better. What next?



Edit: openclipart could render the thumbnails of the pack up to this point:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289293/watercolour-drops.png)
(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/289293/watercolour-drops.png)
(https://openclipart.org/image/90px/svg_to_png/289293/watercolour-drops.png)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on October 30, 2017, 05:29:01 PM
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Teach others, perhaps, Lazur? If you're still at university, there might be students who would like to learn about SVG filtering from an expert.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 30, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
halftone template svg

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289362/1509470664.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289362/halftone-template-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on October 31, 2017, 02:32:50 PM
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"For what end"??  Are you kidding?  I think it's only because your work is not widely known, that it's not being used so much, or referenced so much.  It's going to be a gold mine for anyone looking to learn about filters.  And a gold mine for people looking to use filters.

I wonder if the slow loading pages in both forums are preventing a lot of people from seeing them?  I'm actually not sure why they load slowly - size, quantity, being links???  Could OCA be the slow link in the chain?  Not sure.

Maybe posting somewhere like google + (https://plus.google.com/+inkscape)?  I sure found a lot of stuff on Pinterest the other day - looks like kind of a raquet for image hosting there....might be good way to spread the word?  Or upload a link to Inkscape gallery, to the filter collection, if not already done?  (I'll check)

Decided to search "lazur inkscape filter" - caught this:  https://www.teepublic.com/kids-t-shirt/1407155-limited-edition-exclusive-all-092-filters  Somehow I never made the connection between Inkscape filters and kids' tshirts!  Not sure if there's much you can do about that.  But I'd be p-o'd, if it were my image.  (That was my problem with Pinterest the other day - someone stole from our site.)

But having said all that, you're the only one who knows when it's time to move on.  Maybe it's time to focus more on your artwork?  It seems there would be no limits to iterative designs?  Or else, I have a dream about Inkscape University, which is too big to do by myself.  Just a thought  :-D
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on October 31, 2017, 05:10:48 PM
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An egosearch can lead to interesting results.

Some examlpes:
involute of a circle at wikipedia commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Involute_of_a_circle.png)
unrelated blogpost illustration (https://blogdaysofchrell.com/tag/acceptance/)
iot article (https://www.axolsoft.com/Articles/BadIOT.html)
pdf from Potsdam University (https://books.google.hu/books?id=zvuyDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA4&ots=jSfAZalXuS&dq=lazur%20urh%20-flickr%20-deviantart%20-inkscapeforum%20-inkscapecommunity%20-inkscape%20-pinterest&hl=hu&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false)
another blogpost (https://l21c.trubox.ca/2016/603)
blogpost (https://tylerthomasblog.com/2016/03/)
lion tamer (https://norahcolvin.com/tag/mindset/)

Remembered this one (https://openclipart.org/detail/269743/wooden-triangle-tiling-5) was used somewhere as an album cover but cannot find it.

Other results are mirroring openclipart straight. Could find more with such mug/shirt selling sites.

No filters used though besides a very few.

Openclipart is kind of slow, there are periods when the loading times out. By uploading images there these works become public domain -indicating you can sell any copy of it (if you can find someone willing to pay...). Like a recording of Mozart's work.
It prevents only one thing: claiming others being the original author/others claiming copyright for the material.

Not concerned by this. Frankly only a very few works of mine are there a bit of personal related.
Most of those are resource files, remixes, tutorials, helping materials etc.
Top downloads say it all:
silversilkwave (https://openclipart.org/detail/177382/silver-silk-wave) in a response to this topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13941),
brushed metal texture (https://openclipart.org/detail/212744/brushed-metal-texture) as far as I remember was a quick response at irc
school works (https://openclipart.org/detail/219167/school-works) -a lame remix of a lamer clipart for a thumbnail of a collection of horrible first tryouts-
firework traced (https://openclipart.org/detail/194697/firework-autotrace), for the challenge (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=145)
trophy (https://openclipart.org/detail/179202/trophy) for another oldie (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15339)
a ten minute scribble (https://openclipart.org/detail/230661/daily-sketch-61-back-to-the-future) for a thumbnail of ocal challenges
islamic pattern (https://openclipart.org/detail/223157/islamic-pattern) of this article (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=32)
and finally spectrum of colours (https://openclipart.org/detail/202129/spectrum-of-colours-2), offspring of this topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=16506).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 01, 2017, 04:35:18 PM
Testing out the hatching template -it generates 30000+ nodes, up to even 170000 so copy/pasting is not really a working option... though noone seemed to be bothered about that.
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Goldmine you say?   :-|


As a result removed any unnecessary parts after the trace bitmap of the original template -removed unwanted layers, filter and resized the page in an earlier step- and saved a copy with each tracing shown below.


Some of these tracing examples:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289446/halftone-camera.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289446/halftone-camera)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289427/halftone-zebra.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289427/halftone-zebra)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289434/halftone-mountains.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289434/halftone-mountains)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289438/halftone-house.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289438/halftone-house)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289394/halftone-monkey-2017110158.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289394/halftone-monkey)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289444/halftone-city.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289444/halftone-city)


The better ones couldn't get a thumbnail generated by ocal so just sharing the links:

street scene (https://openclipart.org/detail/289449/halftone-bovine)
gondola (https://openclipart.org/detail/289439/halftone-gondola)
forest (https://openclipart.org/detail/289441/halftone-forest)
lamp (https://openclipart.org/detail/289437/halftone-lamp)
lock (https://openclipart.org/detail/289436/halftone-lock)
pigeons (https://openclipart.org/detail/289433/halftone-pigeons)

Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 02, 2017, 03:59:04 AM
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Not literally a gold mine, of course.  And not for you. 

But do you really see no value for all your amazing efforts?  It must have had some value to you, at the time, or else you never would have done it.


Those are fabulous!

I'm curious about the last step, which refers to "CNC ready halftone silhouette".  Would someone really want to mill out a halftone effect?  It would seem to be hardware intensive.  Or does the cnc derive something from it?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 02, 2017, 04:31:25 AM
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It is a diamond in the mud that noone is picking up. Maybe I jump too soon to conclusions but in fact til this day noone was curious enough trying it out in action.


Cnc-ready as it's a way to represent a photograph with vector halftones only. There is not much alternatives. Thought it'd be essential for cnc. Either that or for unprofessional screen printing.
With a displacement map filter primitive it can be turned to a "feathered" pointillistic filter, but it really melts even at the trace bitmap part -speaking of hardware intensive.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 02, 2017, 05:14:55 AM
Thought it'd be essential for cnc.

Do you mean there's some kind of CNC used for printing?  Or are you thinking that a CNC machine could scan this image, somehow, to create it's own cutting paths?  I don't mean to sound like I'm challenging you or contradicting you.  I just want to learn and understand.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on November 02, 2017, 01:39:25 PM
@Brynn: He means it's the most convenient way to laser-burn (or otherwise plot,cut,etch,...) a photo into an object, simulating different shades of gray by line thickness. The file that the laser (or other machine) would use would be the svg turned to gcode or any other cnc-machine-readable format.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 02, 2017, 03:43:30 PM
@Brynn: He means it's the most convenient way to laser-burn (or otherwise plot,cut,etch,...) a photo into an object, simulating different shades of gray by line thickness. The file that the laser (or other machine) would use would be the svg turned to gcode or any other cnc-machine-readable format.


Yes, that would be it although I'm not familiar with operating cnc tools.

On a second thought, making "smarth paths" would be a fitting idea.
Assuming the cnc router carries like an airbrush for example and can control the width of the stroke, it'd come handy if the width data was assigned to a core path which the machine could follow.
Tried to look up some lettering examples drawn striped in the same manner but couldn't find.
This is similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuhsN1V1hWY
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 04, 2017, 07:35:20 PM
@Brynn: He means it's the most convenient way to laser-burn (or otherwise plot,cut,etch,...) a photo into an object, simulating different shades of gray by line thickness. The file that the laser (or other machine) would use would be the svg turned to gcode or any other cnc-machine-readable format.

So you're saying that CNC can be used to print (more or less)?  Because I've only heard of CNC for cutting generally dense material.  I've never heard of it used for printing.

Because I'm thinking of that message, some time ago (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=636.0), where the guy had a photo of his dog  and he wanted to use gcode to make sort of a 3d portrait.  I haven't re-read it, but I seem to recall we referred him to Blender. 

So were we wrong there?  Or is this some new technology since that message?  Could he convert the photo of his dog into the halftone hatch paths, and cut them?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on November 04, 2017, 08:06:07 PM
What the poster wanted was a 3D image, so blender was a good choice.

Wikipedia about CNC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_control
You will be surprised to learn that even embroidery machines are CNC machines.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 04, 2017, 09:10:50 PM
Halftoning means the greyscale levels are represented with black&white only. Yes, that could be engraved but the result wouldn't be as expected in that other topic. Either "bump" or "hole", no elevation/emboss in between.
I thought gcodetools/cnc software could generate a fill pattern for the router based on a solid filled area.
Surely it'd need further tweaking if the cutter didn't just produced a stencil as intended by the user. For that matter it doesn't take bridges into account so it's rather theoretically.
Maybe that line better be edited out to avoid confusion.
Which I did actually, but also remove the rest...
As described before the use process is a bit different, might worth a separate article.
-mentioned template is here (https://openclipart.org/detail/289426/halftone-template-3)-

By the way, the filter editor got some developer focus in the latest hackfest and now a node editor is at least conceptually getting developed.
In the mean time, made a screen recording of this random filter chain, to showcase how to use the current editor effectively:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP1_O9e1enk



And, here is the (rather rough/"ineffective") result after a bit of further tweaking:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/289685/editing-jam.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/289685/filter-editing-jam)

-Both objects have the same filter chain applied on, but bit different parametres.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 04, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
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I had actually looked at that very same page, to try and figure this out.  But short of really perusing it, doesn't seem to mention anything like printing.  The closest thing I see is 3d printing.  And I have a hard time thinking of 3d printing as laying down the halftone hatch lines.  And except for 3d printing, everything mentioned there is about cutting something out of a generally dense material.  I don't see anything about printing or painting or spraying something.

I'm not really surprised that cnc can be used for embroidery.  But I can't see it stitching out the halftone hatch lines either.  Maybe, I suppose it could do it, but I'm not sure.

Suppose we should make this discussion off topic.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on November 05, 2017, 08:11:25 AM
@Lazur: I didn't understand this mockup, but maybe you do: https://inkscape.org/en/~doctormo/%E2%98%85very-rough-mockup-of-filter-editor
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 11, 2017, 04:25:29 PM
An "in-action shot". Would fine-tune it more however it took two and a half hour to export it -and it was the third time at least.
Probably it is wayyy more effective (time and effort wise) to use raster textures.

-Having technical problems with embedding the image so check the image source (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/holzkoffer-beer-poster-714512513).-
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 14, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
An update to the halftone concept (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18161&start=25#p102113).

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/380d/f/2017/318/a/e/japanese_castle_by_lazururh-dbtsc2y.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/Japanese-castle-715158826?ga_submit_new=10%3A1510717539)
^-da image, probably needs further editing for the embedding

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290436/hw-b5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290436/japanese-castle)
^-ocal thumbnail of the same sized png
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 15, 2017, 01:31:24 PM
Just finished a sayagata/swastika pattern that can make a good use with a halftone template.
Also it was a perfect source for testing woodgrain textures.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290465/sayagata6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290465/sayagata-6)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290478/sayagata8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290478/sayagata-8)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290476/Fuji-1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290476/fuji-1)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290477/Fuji-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290477/fuji-2)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 16, 2017, 06:07:23 AM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290503/Fuji-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290503/fuji-3)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 16, 2017, 10:56:37 AM
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I have an idea I want to try, but I need a file which contains the actual filter (so I can use as a guide).  It looks like you've removed all but the final paths (probably for saving space) for most of these.  Do any of these have the filter still in the file?

I tried message #317, and it has a filter in the file, but I can't seem to bring it into another file.  I apply it to an object, then copy or cut, and paste into a new file, but the filter stays behind.

Could you give me a shortcut to an SVG file which contains a halftone filter (any of them, doesn't matter, just want a guide to try and make my own).

Oh yikes - do we have a new bug?!   I know in the past that I've copied objects with a filter, and the filter is pasted into the new file.  At first I thought it was something funky you did with that file.  But I can't seem to copy a filter into a new file, by just using one of the built-in filters.

Aah, I see.  It converts the filtered object into an embedded raster image!  That seems too complicated to be an accident (i.e. bug).  Wait -- maybe a new pref (new since last time I tried this) ?  Hhmm, not that I can find....

Ok, how the heck can we copy a filter into a different file?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 16, 2017, 11:31:28 AM
These halftone filters uses the image filter primitive to pull in a "screen pattern" -pattern filled objec inside the document.
Copy/pasting the filter to another file breaks the link. Maybe copy/pasting the pulled in object work with the filter, although who knows if the id-s will be the same in the new document.

Besides that, the halftone templates have the filter applied to a whole layer as part to being funky.


Here are the templates that can work:

diagonal (https://openclipart.org/detail/289426/halftone-template-3)

wave (https://openclipart.org/detail/290132/halftone-wave-template)

sayagata (https://openclipart.org/detail/290470/sayagata-halftone-template)

wave-dot (https://openclipart.org/detail/290501/wavedot-halftone-template)

For a bit mor info on the usage, check the descriptions at ocal and/or in this post (http://iterativeideasinventory.blogspot.hu/2017/11/wavy-and-sayagata-screening.html).


These are traces of photographs and with ocal's no raster policy I couldn't upload them in an "in action" state.
Can be used on whatever objects but just cannot find a simple AND shaded image with preferably no filters and a wide range on the luminance levels, details etc. that is vector only.


Another note that the pattern object pulled in limits the size of the raster image you can "trace" this way.
With the wave screen pattern it is 8000 px because the object pulled in was only 16000px/16000px and the origin counts from the top left corner of the page (bug?).
If feeling limited, unhide and open the locked layer to resize the rectangle inside.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on November 16, 2017, 12:05:19 PM
@brynn: perhaps this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1480686
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 16, 2017, 12:57:47 PM
Yikes!  Well I'm on Windows 7.  But I can confirm that everything I try to paste from one doc to another becomes an image!  (posted a comment to the report)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 16, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
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Well, while I can avoid that bug by using 0.91, for most objects, it seems the filter still doesn't come through.  The sample rectangle is pasted, but it has no filter.

Hhm, but according to the Filter Editor, it has a filter, but the filter isn't being displayed.

You'll have to use Ctrl A to find the rectangle in my attached file, the "to" file, but it's there.  I made a  new layer in your file, hoping to avoid any kind of funky stuff you might have done to the file.  I drew a simple rectangle, and filled it with the only filter I could find in the file.  But maybe the new layer wasn't enough to avoid it?

Any chance you could make me a file with a halftone filter in it?  Or show me another file with no weirdness in it?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 16, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
Ok, four halftones with different screening of Fuji in one post:

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/290476/Fuji-1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290476/fuji-1)

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/290477/Fuji-2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290477/fuji-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/290503/Fuji-3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290503/fuji-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/290542/Fuji-4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290542/fuji-4)

templates used:

diagonal (https://openclipart.org/detail/289426/halftone-template-3)

wave (https://openclipart.org/detail/290132/halftone-wave-template)

sayagata (https://openclipart.org/detail/290470/sayagata-halftone-template)

wave-dot (https://openclipart.org/detail/290501/wavedot-halftone-template)

cross (https://openclipart.org/detail/290540/cross-halftone-template)

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Getting exponentially harder tracking all the collections and tags with this at openclipart. And still haven't put the pixabay links in the descriptions :/
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 18, 2017, 07:05:33 AM
Any chance you could make me a file with a halftone filter in it?

here is a sloppy as hell video:
https://youtu.be/B-iolT1VfUk

Check the description for further details.
With all seriousness, why don't you use the template as it is? Was set up that way for a reason.
Already noted that the filter pulls in another object into the filter chain with the image filter primitive.
Such pulled in objects cannot be embedded right inside the filter chain. Even if it was possible theoretically -didn't dig into the svg specs but have doubts since why would they have the image filter primitive at first place then-, inkscape doesn't have a gui part you could "feed"-embed- objects inside.
It would be a nice feature though to have patterns and gradient fills accessible into a filter chain but that's not a feature either.
Also some scale factor indicators. And ways to break apart/stitch filtering chains. And to setup other vector options in the chain, so that trace bitmap could be used on one hatch filtered object for tracing layered hatching strokes.
The image filter primitive is the only way to achieve these.

Therefore if you managed to copy/paste the filter, you need to copy/paste the pulled in object with it OR pull in another object of choice.
That is selecting the object, and clicking the select svg element in the filter editor at the hatching filter's image filter primitive's settings.
If you do the latter, keep in mind the filter pulls in the object from the top left corner of the page (had commented that at Xav's related topic somewhere). So it needs to be placed at the top left corner of the page and needs to be larger than the object you want to filter.
Too bad it is now covering the page area right?
Well it's better to put it onto a hidden layer. Preferably locked and untouched. Like in a template file.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 18, 2017, 08:40:59 AM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290617/hc-ride-2017111848.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290617/hc-ride)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290618/hc-ride-2017111822.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290618/hc-ride)


collection of templates (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/16160)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 18, 2017, 10:50:59 AM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/290630/tweed-2017111801.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290630/tweed)

-Berwick upon Tweed upon houndstooth pattern.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 19, 2017, 08:55:27 AM
Found this old rss box (https://openclipart.org/detail/242422/grunge-rss-box-icon) which however had a raster image embedded which is a no-go at openclipart. So threw in some filters:

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/563a/f/2017/323/2/8/fragile_box_by_lazururh-dbu7r9h.png) (http://fav.me/dbu7r9h)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 19, 2017, 10:18:13 AM
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With all seriousness, why don't you use the template as it is? Was set up that way for a reason.

Yes, I understand that.  But I wanted to make my own design.  I thought if I could see your filter, I might be able to use it as a guide, to make my own design for the halftone.  I just had the idea to have some kind of geometric image, make a filter with the same geometric design, or similar, and put them together with the halftone tracing.  Like maybe a tesselation or fractal image, with the halftone that is one unit.  Or have a halftone design which complements the image - like you just did with the wool, or houndstooth with sheep.  Like I was thinking to make a peace sign halftone, and put it on a photo of the earth - something like that.

I tried copy/pasting the whole object, not just the filter.  But apparently I'm having that bug, for pasting anything from another file into 0.92.  I think it might be just for 64-bit, but I was falling asleep the other day.  The other day, I was even having trouble with 0.91, although today, 0.91 is ok. 

Oh, nice surprise!  Today pasting is no problem, even in 0.92!  Strange....  Let's see if I can get that filter today....  Oh yay, I got the filter today!  Hhmm, but no I don't think I'll be able to figure it out.  The Component Transfer primitive is WELL over my head, haha!  I didn't realize it was such a complex thing.

Actually I saw your "swastika" made with 4 paisley, joined at the point, and thought of making a paisley halftone and apply to some paisley image (either one I find somewhere, or just make myself).  But I don't think I'll be able to figure it out, even with yours as a guide.

But thanks anyway  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 19, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
Like I was thinking to make a peace sign halftone, and put it on a photo of the earth - something like that.

Then you need to draw an actual peace-sign screening pattern. Needs to be repeating, needs to be greyscale with smooth transitions -ie. built up from black-white gradients-. It can even come from a raster image if that's easier.
Most importantly it's best to have all lightness values cover the same percent of the pattern (as much as possible).

Setting up the filter right after is just a few clicks away.

Making the screen image good is the harder part -took me quite a while finishing that pattern pack (https://openclipart.org/detail/290633/pattern-pack) even if there is nothing fancy inside.

So does this mean you are drawing pattern fills now? Do you have work in progress images?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 19, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
No I didn't start drawing patterns.  I was just going to try it once.  If I like it, maybe more.

When you say "built up from black-white gradients" do you mean like when you made images, such as on the front page of the gallery, sort of like with many smaller slices, put together to make the whole?  Or do you just mean feathered by some particular ratio?  Sorry, I know I'm not describing it correctly.

Oh ok, I just downloaded the pattern pack.  I guess there must be some reason to create the images with bits and pieces, instead of just blurring black paths?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 19, 2017, 11:30:01 AM
Blurring could work too... but would it be stabile to convert a group of filtered objects into a pattern fill?
Not only that but then the filter editor would be loaded with filter definitions of the blurring which is a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 19, 2017, 07:23:36 PM
Ooohh right!  Because blurring is a filter itself.  You'd have to group it before you went on with the rest of the new filter.  And considering  everything else that happens, it's probably unnecessary added complexity.

Still might try it, just for fun.  We'll see.  Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on November 27, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
Like I was thinking to make a peace sign halftone, and put it on a photo of the earth - something like that.

Not a fan of the peace -deathrune- sign, made a template with hearts here (https://openclipart.org/detail/290999/heart-halftone-template). (I bet drawing the peace sign by gradients is much easier.)

The pattern used is rather complex, took too long to create. But that's not surprising.
(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/290994/heart-pattern-7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/290994/heart-pattern-4)
-256 paths are stacked upon eachother.

Here is it after action:

(https://openclipart.org/image/800px/svg_to_png/291005/flamingos.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/291005/flamingos)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on November 27, 2017, 01:19:09 PM
Not a fan of the peace -deathrune- sign

Was just an example ;)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 03, 2017, 06:54:54 AM
Made another variation of that psychedelic bunny (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg4917#msg4917).

This time, a kaleidoscope is added to the filter effect:
-click the thumbnail in the link- (https://openclipart.org/detail/291391/psychedelic-bunny-4-animated)

-filter-wise it's the exact same. However it's a test for the rendering.
Chrome renders the rotating kaleidoscope right but lags with the filter. Firefox renders the filter with no slowdown but the rotation is off-center.

Other unfiltered variations of the bunny with the kaleidoscope alone are available here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33225#p102459).


Edit: oh this kills the rendering of the page. Removing the embedding. Click the link instead and view it outside.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 03, 2017, 08:50:15 AM
"In action" shot of some of the previous packs.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/291395/robot-anim.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/291395/robot-head-animated)

-This one is actually animated but it takes too much resources to render that I'm not embedding the svg for now.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 12, 2017, 08:05:49 PM
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/a415/f/2017/346/6/9/ring_of_lava_and_metal_by_lazururh-dbwkbtr.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/ring-of-lava-and-metal-719824095?ga_submit_new=10%3A1513137567)

with the svg source looking somewhat similar to this (https://openclipart.org/detail/291892/two-sided-ring-2). (New one has more filters previously shared. However the structure is more important this time, so the less filter seemed more fitting for the svg.)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 30, 2017, 07:20:25 AM
Another "in action" image reusing a metallic filter and some dithering:

Pattern rendered to a 4k wallpaper raster image.
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/47a6/f/2017/364/5/4/diamond_pattern_by_lazururh-dbybn6x.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/diamond-pattern-722778153)

svg source here (https://openclipart.org/detail/292903/diamond-background-8).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on December 30, 2017, 07:50:24 AM
Reminds me of dragon scales - perhaps a more greenish and rounded version would be interesting to try out :)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on December 30, 2017, 08:26:00 AM
Reminds me of dragon scales - perhaps a more greenish and rounded version would be interesting to try out :)

Will redraw the pattern with cloning=customizable tile shape.
Also thinking over the drawing's structure.
Base fill is a gradient downsampled to the tiles; using a pattern fill would have more options. Hmm as a second thought that process will fit perfectly the halftone filters.
Edit: just tested, pattern fills respond poorly with such scaling.

Then, how to add in more layers and still have an independent dropshadow in between the z-ordering.
Plus, what if some of the tiles had an actual decoration, they'd have dropshadows too?

Edit 2:
With more raster tweaking added in in gimp:
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/c7fe/f/2017/364/6/0/diamond_pattern_2_by_lazururh-dbydma0.png) (https://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/diamond-pattern-2-722870280?ga_submit_new=10%3A1514682439)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Moini on December 31, 2017, 04:37:22 AM
I like that lighting effect (on both).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 25, 2018, 03:44:11 PM
Recent update with banners from the Boston hackfest.

(https://openclipart.org/image/600px/svg_to_png/299053/hackfest-2018-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/299053/hackfest-2018-pack)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 30, 2018, 06:11:25 PM
(http://orig04.deviantart.net/9c11/f/2017/030/4/f/bird_sculpture_by_lazururh-daxcj03.png) (http://lazururh.deviantart.com/art/bird-sculpture-660673587)

I don't know if you intended this.  But it looks just like one of those.... I guess is sort of a toy.

Just saw this one uploaded by JayNick at openclipart:
-animated svg-

(https://openclipart.org/download/299598/drinkingbird.svg) (https://openclipart.org/detail/299598/drinking-bird-animation#)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 31, 2018, 02:03:50 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 31, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
Another go at a metallic grunge overlay texture filter:

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/8dfd/f/2018/090/b/6/metal_grunge_by_lazururh-dc7igan.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/299651/metal-grunge)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on April 18, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
Some recent sea images:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/300654/sky.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/300654/skyscape)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/300658/sky2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/300658/skyscape-2)

Knowing what I wanted to achieve it didn't come out as good as I wanted. But simply cannot manage this kind of drawing so easily.
Dithering is added in to every object manually and some of the parts became simply just grainy. Even though the basics are quite simple.
Will have to catch up with it someday.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on April 19, 2018, 10:23:30 AM
Very pretty!
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on January 01, 2019, 06:24:02 PM
Feeling a bit rusty... time to get back to drafting right?
*looking up own blog's password*

Coming from this topic (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34359) put together yet another set of chalkboard-art filters. Not so satisfied with the result, as feeling it lacking some detail and especially the very details are out of proportion, showing the turbulence noise clearly.

svg source (https://openclipart.org/detail/312956/chalkboard-letter)
 
1 (https://www.deviantart.com/lazururh/art/L-779286052)



Here is a detail at 300% zooming:
2 (https://www.deviantart.com/lazururh/art/Chalk-letter-detail-779286812)

Edit: still not sure why deviantart doesn't let embed the images as thumbnails.
Then again, some reminder to see if this is going somewhere:

2 years ago (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg3510#msg3510)

bit more (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=329.msg3203#msg3203)

chalk dust from 2015 (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19236#p73480)
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on February 28, 2019, 11:16:06 PM
8k wallpaper with some fancy dithering and clouds:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/dfb430a7-2410-42ab-9748-17ff0353bac5/dd0z5em-500d410f-29da-48db-9665-7374e55c627c.png) (https://www.deviantart.com/lazururh/art/black-forest-wallpaper-787700254)

Svg source is available here (https://openclipart.org/detail/315939/black-forest-wallpaper-2).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 01, 2019, 02:01:06 AM
Looks great!

How large is the SVG file, before I try to download it?
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 01, 2019, 03:35:41 PM
How large is the SVG file, before I try to download it?

Quote from: openclipart
Filesize16744484 bytes

-exactly above the download button.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 02, 2019, 06:40:41 PM
Thanks.

Fyi, for others, that calculates to approx 16 mb.  It will take some time to download (and probably at least 8 gb ram).
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: Lazur on March 09, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Tried to update the wallpaper with more filters -with not much luck.

This was screen captured at 11% zoom level:
 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Here is the svg source:
black forest wallpaper (https://openclipart.org/detail/316488/black-forest-wallpaper)

However exporting to the 8k size took about 7 hours for only about 5% of the image and it even showed rendering artifacts.
So... anyone with a renderfarm want to give it a try, don't hesitate.
Title: Re: Filters in action, filters in pack
Post by: brynn on March 10, 2019, 12:41:24 PM
Personally I like the first version better, but they're both gorgeous!