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Skills, Challenges & Artwork => Completed Work => Topic started by: Lazur on April 09, 2015, 05:52:12 PM

Title: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 09, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
Rejon just recently announced this challenge at openclipart library.

http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=216.msg1454#msg1454 (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?topic=216.msg1454#msg1454)


Here I will showcase some images uploaded to it.


First challenge: thunderbolt/lightning. (https://openclipart.org/detail/216962/daily-sketch-thunder-and-lightning)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217002/ll3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217002/thunder)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217003/ll7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217003/thunder)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: brynn on April 09, 2015, 11:08:13 PM
Oh, nice lightning!

I would apply the effects used in the blue one, to the lines in the black one.  (Actually that looks a little lacey, relating to my comment in the other topic.)  Oh, well if those are SVGs, maybe I'll try it myself  :D
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2015, 03:27:18 AM
Lacey at a prize of 9 MB. Three sketch lpe-s were stack upon the core path.
The other one is ten times smaller in size.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2015, 04:47:54 AM
Now, with L-system.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217021/Lsyst.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217021/thunder)

Parametres used are here (https://openclipart.org/detail/217023/lightning).
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2015, 05:06:03 AM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217024/1428667394.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217024/lightning)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 10, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217035/ls1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217035/thunderstorm)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 13, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
New theme: cats (https://openclipart.org/detail/217127/dailysketch-cats).



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217135/cat1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217135/cat-layout)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217160/cat2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217160/black-cat)


Based on this (http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/view-image.php?image=60417&picture=gandalf-nez-a-levegoben&large=1) image.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 14, 2015, 09:03:59 AM
Dogs (https://openclipart.org/detail/217159/DailySketch-Dogs).


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217161/dog1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217161/kuvasz)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217163/dog2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217163/kuvasz)


Image based on a four month old kuvasz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuvasz).


http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F%C3%A1jl:4_h%C3%B3napos_kuvasz.jpg&filetimestamp=20110811102616& (http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F%C3%A1jl:4_h%C3%B3napos_kuvasz.jpg&filetimestamp=20110811102616&)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 17, 2015, 05:57:19 AM
mythical animals (https://openclipart.org/detail/217201/DailySketch-Mythical-Animals)


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217264/draco.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217264/dragon-sketch)


This one was actually a remix of this (https://openclipart.org/detail/64849/dragon-head-silhouette).
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 20, 2015, 03:41:18 AM
In the name of faster loading will have to change the embedded svg-s to rasters sometime.

Now there was a challenge on flowers and birds (https://openclipart.org/detail/217283/DailySketch-Flowers-and-Birds) and on use photocopy (https://openclipart.org/detail/217333/DailySketch-Use-Photocopy).
The latter means to use auto-tracing provided by ocal.
Quote from: rejon
This is some experimental tech, so good to try on a Sunday. Send a photo or image to photocopy@openclipart.org and your image will be converted to look like you black and white photocopied it. If you want to try something simple, take a photo of a paint splat and send it in. As long as your email address you send from is your registered Openclipart email, then the image will attach to your account. Cool?

Used this (http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/view-image.php?image=22207&picture=red-rose) public domain image with some tweaking in gimp.


(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217340/rose-2015042006.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217340/rose)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217341/rose-2-2015042038.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217341/rose-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217342/rose-3-2015042004.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217342/rose-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217343/rose-4-2015042034.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217343/rose-4)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217345/rose-5-2015042004.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217345/rose-5)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217346/rose-6-2015042012.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217346/rose-6)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217348/rose-7-2015042023.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217348/rose-7)

A bit similar to that hatch, crosshatch rendering challenge (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18161), a monotone raster image was produced in gimp to start off. While there are options in changing the colour mode to black&white only, the transitions between the colours are not that smooth in it.
So instead, a greyscale copy was converted to a layer mask and inverted, then layer content deleted and bucket filled with black. (Same as colour to alpha option though.)
Then, the layer blending mode was changed to dissolve, and opacity lowered to 96% over a white background.


Another one, trying to make it duotone:
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217351/ro3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217351/red-rose)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on April 22, 2015, 04:00:17 AM
New one is space (https://openclipart.org/detail/217436/space-sketch) related.

Made some simple galaxy images.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217472/spc12.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217472/galaxy)
-this one was drawn with sketch lpe-

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217473/spc14.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217473/galaxy-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217474/spc17.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217474/galaxy-3)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217475/galaxy-2015042201.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217475/galaxy)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217476/galaxy-2015042215.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217476/galaxy)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217479/spc18.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217479/galaxy)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217480/galaxy-2015042243.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217480/galaxy)


Considering to upload thumbnail images, this kind of linking is not the best.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: brynn on April 22, 2015, 06:09:34 AM
I think, if you attach images, over a certain size, they automatically become thumbnailed.  However, at the moment, I have attachments limited to 5 per post.  It seems like a reasonable number, for support type messages.  But there's no way to have attachments limited by board.  So for example, I can't have unlimited attachments for some boards, and limited on others.

But doesn't OCA provide thumbnail codes, so you can automatically embed thumbnails?  I know a lot of image hosts do (such at ImageShack).  Or maybe there's a bbcode for thumbnails.  I'll look it up......  Hhmm, no there doesn't seem to be such a code....too bad.  I guess SMF must be depending on image hosts to provide thumbs.

OR, you could upload to your gallery.  There, thumbnails are automatically created, and then just embed that thumbnail.  It actually makes 2 different sizes of thumbnails automatically.  1 is the tiny thumbnail, that you see in the album view, and the other is the image you see on the "intermediate" page, the one with all the image info.  However, if the image isn't any bigger than that size, it doesn't create the 2nd one. 

Although I guess you've reached your limit for the gallery.  Maybe now that you've graduated, you don't need all those images related to your thesis anymore?
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on May 01, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
Flourishes (https://openclipart.org/detail/217611/dailysketch-flourish-or-embellishment-ds-challenge).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217621/flou3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217621/flourish-pattern)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217617/flou1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217617/flourish-pattern)

and a brush pack, for drawing flourishes with a pattern along path (and spiro path) live path effect.

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217612/fbrush-pack.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217612/flourish-brush-pack)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on May 01, 2015, 05:41:53 PM
Plaster-cast task (https://openclipart.org/detail/217861/dailysketch-injuries-broken-legs-arms-orthopedic-casts-etc).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/217941/x-ray.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/217941/dailysketch-core)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: brynn on May 01, 2015, 07:48:34 PM
Love the flourishes!
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on May 08, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
Remix a squiggle. (https://openclipart.org/detail/218047/daily-sketch-11)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218049/11d1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218049/bulb)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218050/11d3.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218050/cake)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218055/11d4.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218055/landscape).

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218112/11d2.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218112/breakfast)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on May 08, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
Remix a grid of lines. (https://openclipart.org/detail/218131/ds012)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218134/12d1.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218134/torch)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218136/12d1II.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218136/torch-2)

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218138/12d2II.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218138/bird)

This last one was made with a brush in that previous pack.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on May 08, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
Spirograph. (https://openclipart.org/detail/218172/Spirograph-Outline)


Based off of three hipotrochoids, that come closest to the announcement's scanned and traced image:

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218229/13d7.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218229/hipotrochoid)


Prameters are available in the original images.



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218232/13d8.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218232/hipotrochoid)



As the hipotrochoid in the announcement seemed closest to 32 ellipses, had built up from that.



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218249/circle-ring5.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218249/impossible-rings)



(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/218377/circle-ring-6.png) (https://openclipart.org/detail/218377/impossible-ring-of-rings)


Also linked this to that z-order trick (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=30) tutorial, as at least on the z-ordering this one stands out so well, with all objects hiding others partially, in a ring. (Previous version took an easy way out with clipping, resulting in gaps.)

Maybe would look better with outlines on top, but then it could have been much less accurate.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on August 05, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Now, replaced the embedded images from the original svg sources to the webkit generated thumbnails at openclipart. Should render much faster. Still, does it happen to load too slowly? Hmm what else to try. I rather not export small enough thumbnail images for these, and host somewhere else, if that doesn't have another benefit.
About ten images would need a page break then?
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: brynn on August 05, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
Oh it loads much faster!  Quite reasonable, at least at this point.  If more images were posted, we'll just have to wait and see.

Yeah, when I saw a new message posted on this thread, I said to myself "oh no, how can I read this message without opening the whole thread?".  Couldn't think of a way, so took a deep breath and clicked.  But it opened just like any other message!

Do you think there should be a need for any Inkscape forum (or its server) to be able to open threads like this, with several to many large SVGs, just as quickly as any other message?  I was thinking I could contact my host, and investigate whether we could get some more....I think it  might be called bandwidth.  However, I don't think my server is any different from any other typical server/forum setups across the internet.  Maybe it's more the internet needs to catch up, as SVGs become more popular?

Thinking outloud -- I guess I might look to AI, as more the leader for vector graphics.  I don't think AI forums provide any special bandwidth for the purpose of loading threads with multiple large vector files.  Although I've never really visited an AI forum.  But I guess they typically use PNG or other raster format, to display in forums, just  like we do with Inkscape.

More thinking outloud -- Our gallery doesn't provide the same kind of thumbnail service as you've found at OCA.  But there must be a way to use our gallery for that.

The image that CPG calls the "intermediate image", the one that's shown on the page with all the image info, is about the right size.  Well, it would only work for images uploaded into the gallery.  But if you right click on that image and then click "Copy Image Location" (Firefox), you've got the url for exactly that image.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on August 05, 2015, 04:27:43 PM
These images take ocal's bandwidth. The rest is just connection -download- speed from the browsers. But if anyone visits often, parts may get cached on local hard drive, resulting in immediate loading in.
Maybe if there were less images to be loaded in at one page...


Thinking out loud, I'm getting a feeling that I'm trying too hard with this. Uploaded 176 cliparts related to the dailysketch (https://openclipart.org/collection/collection-detail/Lazur%20URH/9601) challenge until now, yet it seems all went below the radar. Why bother uploading anything "big" -or svg-s, for that matter-, in a reasonable resolution, keeping things up to date if no one would ever look.
Hmm I had too many work lost by hard drive crash, well that's a benefit of keeping original files online.
And other sites are mirroring ocal uploads, so there might even be more sources for any backups.


Either I should not post that much images for a page, or the number of messages per page would better off be customized to a lower number, in topics where necessary.
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: brynn on August 05, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
Well, for a daily sketch challenge, high resolution seems unecessary.  Maybe the high res should be reserved for the "masterpieces"?  Although most of those are masterpieces!  So awesome that I wouldn't be surprised if some people might like to buy them....  Except that you've already released them in public domain.

(Hhmm....pondering a gallery album for images that are for sale....  Maybe there's a plugin for that?  I'll have to research... )

Anyway, there's no way to limit the number of messages per topic, at all, that I know of....much less limit only certain topics.  For your own topics, you would just have to self-limit....although you would have no control over other people posting messages.

I didn't realize that daily challenge was still going on.  How many people are posting every day?  I'm just not that good of an artist, that I can draw something every day.  Plus, I work SO SLOW!

(You using Windows?  I thought you were Linux guy?  Or you're just borrowing a computer until you can replace the old one?)
Title: Re: my dailysketch works
Post by: Lazur on August 05, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
Temporarily I'm on xp.


"Daily" is a questionable part. Recently speedstar's clipart requests are announced as "daily" challenges, and now hardly anyone participates. Mostly because the creative part is missing, just looking up pd images and tracing them is less fun.
The 51th challenge (https://openclipart.org/detail/224013/request-Character-18-LIVING-TREE) is the current one, here (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18673&p=71481#p71481) is the list of all of the series.