Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

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Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Shortkaik » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:04 pm

I had a PDF that I wanted to add some text to. I imported the PDF to Inkscape. It looked fine and I did my edits, but when I printed it, the colours looked faded. I assumed I was running out of ink, so I saved a copy as PDF so I could print it from another location, but the PDF had the same colouring issues that the SVG did.

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Is there a way I can get this to print/export properly? Why would the colours be affected in this way? I did not apply any filtering. Exporting it as a PNG works fine.

Thank you!
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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Lazur » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:42 pm

It's hard to tell from that image. Could you attach the original svg for a closer look?

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Shortkaik » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:08 am

I've attached the .SVG.
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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby ragstian » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:15 pm

Hi.

This just "begged" to be converted to vector.

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Lazur » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:05 pm

ragstian wrote:Hi.

This just "begged" to be converted to vector.

The attachment bridalshower2_Vector.svg is no longer available


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So true.

There were some small parts wrong on your version.
Corrected them here (and removed that right bottom part of the background, maybe on the original it wasn't intentional).
That border may cause some problems at the printing on this version though.
May have to add some bleed lines.
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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby ragstian » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:42 pm

Hi Lazur URH

There were some small parts wrong on your version.

I reckon the page format is intentionally set to Letter - Landscape - you have changed it to portrait?
The right bottom part of the background is also intentional - it makes the curve in the bottom of dress.
The grey frame around the dress is part of the graphics design of the page - removing it changes the whole perception.
Without the frame the clipping of the upper part of the bride looks strange.

Also the text has been removed in your version ?

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Lazur » Wed May 01, 2013 2:50 am

Shortkaik wrote:I had a PDF that I wanted to add some text to. I imported the PDF to Inkscape.


Thought that the only added text was the "join us for a" part, as it had a copyright date of 2011 in the other text.
My guess was that it was an intentional part of the original. And why would it contain those, if there is new text added.
So my assume was that the image part was the main point of that svg.

By the bottom part of the backgrouns I meant this:
Image
Some one pixel thing on the right edge.

Used accurate clipping, the white lines ends were not clipped right.
Converted the text to outlines -no further typing was needed.

But the main reason I got involved was the hand.

Here is another version, with the original layout -since reworked the flowers as well.
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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby ragstian » Wed May 01, 2013 6:29 am

Hi.

Some one pixel thing on the right edge.

The one pixel "thing" in the lower right corner is supposed to give the bottom part of the dress a "curve"?
Here exaggerated for clarity;
Image

Used accurate clipping, the white lines ends were not clipped right.

The ends on the white lines would be "hidden" by the grey border? No need for clipping then?
What about the hand?

Your versions is perfect! I see you spent more time on the flower petals than I did! You are the artist - not me! :D

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby druban » Wed May 01, 2013 7:13 am

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Lazur » Wed May 01, 2013 9:22 am

ragstian wrote:...
The one pixel "thing" in the lower right corner is supposed to give the bottom part of the dress a "curve"?
Here exaggerated for clarity;
Image...


The size of that part, the fact that there was a white gap between it and the grey border,
and the fact it used three colours on that small space makes me think that it was unintentional.

ragstian wrote:...
The ends on the white lines would be "hidden" by the grey border? No need for clipping then?...


Didn't look polished. If the elements under that grey border were grouped, the bounding box wouldn't fit nicely in.
Thus converted the strokes to paths. And trimmed them in a better shape, before clipping.
If there were no grey borders, you couldn't hide anything that way.
Or if it was much thinner, and the white paths came from different angles.

ragstian wrote:...
What about the hand?
...


The end of it wasn't hidden by the flowers, showing how it was cut off.
-There was a white line end not hidden by the border too.-


ragstian wrote:...
Your versions is perfect! I see you spent more time on the flower petals than I did!...



The flowers were created by merging circles together, didn't took much time.

ragstian wrote:...
You are the artist - not me! :D
...

Thank's! I should work more on that op-art like project to become one, but for now that letter-thingy takes all of my "creative juices".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdPoqfcB3Gk

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby ragstian » Wed May 01, 2013 10:35 am

Hi.

Thanks for all the detailed explanations - great way to learn - still got a long way to go!!
I'll polish my work better in the future. :D
Your letter "thingy" looks fantastic!

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Lazur » Wed May 01, 2013 10:52 am

Off topic:
The 3D was made in blender. Not so happy with it.
"When the gradient mesh will be available in inkscape"...
Have some ideas what to be done, but have no idea how to get there.

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Shortkaik » Thu May 02, 2013 12:16 am

Wow! Thank you all for working on this for me. This is much more than I was expecting. :) I got the original PDF from here: http://www.elli.com/blog/bridal-shower- ... printable/ But I wanted to change some details in the text more than just editting the PDF would let me. I removed the text I had added in the SVG I attached in the post - privacy and whatnot, you know, and the text was irrelevant to the issue.

I'm still not quite sure what the printing issue was - I really didn't modify the SVG at all other than changing the text a bit after importing it from a PDF. I checked my settings and searched around for other similar issues but wasn't able to solve it.

I really appreciate you converting it to a vector for me - now I can easily modify the colours as well. :) And it prints much better!

Thanks again! :)

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Re: Printing and saving as PDF - colours faded

Postby Shortkaik » Thu May 02, 2013 12:36 am

druban wrote:I notice that no one has addressed your question ...
When you say
Shortkaik wrote:so I saved a copy as PDF so I could print it from another location, but the PDF had the same colouring issues that the SVG did

do you mean that it printed the same way, or that it looked faded on screen?


And, to answer this question - the PDF looked faded on screen. I don't know if anyone else was able to reproduce this issue with the SVG I attached. I didn't try to print the PDF as I assumed it would print the same way.


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