Hi Friends,
I've always had difficulty with snapping, in Inkscape. I'm not sure why, other than not understanding the settings. Well, I should say that I think I understand them, but my choice of settings never results in snapping as I want. So maybe I'm confused about the language. In 0.46, the Snap To settings language is much more clear than in my previous version, 0.44. But again, even though I think I understand them, I can't seem to configure the settings to snap as I want.

Anyway, I just noticed something in 0.46, that does not happen in my 0.44 version. Maybe it's a bug, or maybe discussing it will lead to a better understanding on my part.

Whenever I enable snapping, it snaps to the grid, even if I have NOT selected Snap to Grid. If I choose to snap Nodes, the nodes snap to the grid. If I choose to snap bounding boxes, the b-boxes snap to the grid. The grid snapping is so strong that I can't use any other snapping, because the grid snapping interferes. The only way to stop snapping to the grid is to disable the grid.

Oh! I do know about disabling snapping by holding down the Enter key, and that DOES disable the grid snapping. (It does NOT disable snapping of node handles, but I don't think it's supposed to....although it would be nice if it did.) But it's kind of tricky to use, for me -- you can't hit the Enter key before you start moving whatever it is you're moving (if you do, it starts rubberband selecting). You have to start moving the mouse, and hit the Enter key while it's moving, which I find kind of awkward.

I suppose that disabling the grid can easily be done at the same time I enable snapping when I need it. But again, maybe I just don't understand, or maybe it's a bug that I should report.

Is this grid snapping which can't be diasbled (except by disabling the grid altogether) expected or known? Or is there something I can do about it?

Thanks for any comments
All best.

Summary wrote:Unable to disable snapping to grid in 0.46.

Confirmed. But then this might be by design as there is no option that would influence such behaviour. I think this is an oversight though, as I do believe there are benefits to enabling/disabling grid snapping seperate to other forms of snapping.

But then this might be by design as there is no option that would influence such behaviour.

When you enable snapping (Enable snapping checkbox checked), but you don't put a check in the Snap to grids checkbox, shouldn't that disable grid snapping?

Hi brynn,
Some time ago I reported a bug about exactly the same questinons you have.
It´s been rated "medium".
Here you will find good answers to your question.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/193599

It does NOT disable snapping of node handles, but I don't think it's supposed to....although it would be nice if it did.

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I´ve always wondered if this kind of behaviour "snapping of handles" can be disabled in Inkscape.
This would be especially helpful if you draw over a technical vector drawing. What I mean is, you have a complex vector drawing in a layer below,
and in the layer above you quickly draw the outlines of the drawing while snapping is on. However in inkscape it doesen´t work, since
the node handles keep snapping...

Shouldn´t it be on the wishlist?

WHOA!!!

Wow, macti, thanks for that info!
So do I understand correctly that snapping:
a) is either on or off, and
b) is to BOTH grid and guides, at the SAME time, and
c) there is no choice as to where things can be snapped, only whether or not to snap?

Is that it?
Geez, no wonder snapping has never worked for me -- what I thought was turning OFF various aspects of snapping, was actually making it snap more aggressively!

microUgly: you can disable the snapping per grid on the grid tab in the document properties dialog, at least in current development builds

brynn: that confusion was caused by the labeling of the controls, and these have been reworded. Instead of a checkbox we now have two radio buttons, that should help too. BTW, what about the Enter-key? I haven't ever noticed an effect on the snapping, but maybe you can enlighten me?

macti and brynn: I will look into disabling the node handle snapping, but the modifier-keys are heavily contested so shift might already be taken in this case. For the time being, you will have to toggle the grid/guides visibility or toggle the global snapping using the keyboard shortcuts (#, | and %).

Regards,

Diederik

BTW, I've already replied to the launchpad bug, but my reply hasn't shown up yet.

That makes scene. Yesterday I was going nutz with the snap thing. I was trying to turn it off and instead it just started snapping more things,.. like the start node for gradients where snapping to the the intersections of the guide lines which were like 600 pts away.

Wow, thank you Diederik!

In my 1st message, when I mentioned temporarily disabling snapping with the Enter key, that was a mistake. I meant to say the Shift key. I was typing fast, and they are side by side on the keyboard, so my mind went one way, and my fingers typed the other! Sorry

Thanks for your great work on Inkscape!

Apparently holding the shift-key already disabled snapping while dragging nodes. However, it didn' t do anything when dragging node HANDLES instead. That has been fixed now

Diederik

Is it just more or are these imageshack pictures not loading for others also?

brynn wrote:

The image you posted above isn't displaying for me.

Hhhm...
Ok, I just tested the smiley, and it appears to be working.
So micro, you can see the 2nd one, the "Huh" sign?
I guess all I can say is that frequently smileys I have hosted at Image Shack temporarily "vanish". From what I can tell, it's related to their servers, which of course are out of my control. I don't know what I can do, besides pay for storage at a better host.

If anyone comes up with more info, suggestions, or comments I'd certainly be happy to hear them!

Sorry for this problem, and thanks for understanding

EDIT -- Ok, I just uploaded the smiley again and changed the URL. Can you see it ok now?

brynn wrote:EDIT -- Ok, I just uploaded the smiley again and changed the URL. Can you see it ok now?

Yeah, I can see it now. Had I known it was just a smiley I wouldn't have bothered saying anything It seems my ISP (and perhaps my work ISP) are unable to resolve some imageshack addresses.