Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

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Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby MelM » Mon May 09, 2016 11:21 am

I know this topic has been brought up before...I did a search and read all of the threads on this topic, but none helped. So I hope it is ok I started a new topic for this.

I installed an ICC color profile (CMYK) to my computer so I can work with the CMS in my Inkscape docs and convert RGB to CMYK via Scribus, and I see it in my computer folder where it is supposed to be (along with all the other color profiles on my computer), but the profile does not show up in the CMS tab in the Fill and Stroke dialog box. No profiles show up for that matter...it just says "none". Do I also need to add the color profile to my Inkscape folder on my computer somewhere?

One of the suggestions I read in an already existing thread on this topic mentioned something about using a hex editor and change the name of the ICC profile file, but it kind of went over my head and seemed complicated (maybe it isn't though). Is that the only solution to get Inkscape to find the new profiles on my computer?

I am using version 0.91 and have windows 7 professional.

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Mon May 09, 2016 9:42 pm

I have no experience with this topic but it was said in a recent thread that you have to link the ICC profile in the Document Properties -> Color tab.

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby brynn » Tue May 10, 2016 3:39 am

Maybe you need to restart either Inkscape or your computer?

Here's the best tutorial I know about: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entr ... to-scribus I think there's a recent video tutorial, but I don't have the link handy. Esper might? But it's the same routine with Scribus.

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Tue May 10, 2016 3:46 am

brynn wrote: I think there's a recent video tutorial, but I don't have the link handy. Esper might? But it's the same routine with Scribus.

Its the Nick Saporito one. And its not with ICC profiles. Just Scribus.

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby MelM » Tue May 10, 2016 11:36 am

Brynn, I did restart my computer and still nothing, but was a good suggestion :)

EDITED: I removed what I wrote because it is working now!!! I had read that blog tutorial you linked to but I couldn't find the folders they said to put the profiles in. However, I know the profiles are on my computer as I had found them elsewhere, but I just realized that I skipped one important step in the blog tutorial instructions (I didn't go into doc properties first to link the profiles...only went straight to the fill and stroke dialog box thinking they'd magically be there :oops: ), so all is good now. This can be marked as solved.

Sorry Espermachine...I know you mentioned to do that too, but I thought you were talking about linking the profiles to Scribus for some reason, which I knew I needed to do there. No idea why my brain wasn't computing this!


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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Tue May 10, 2016 10:50 pm

MelM wrote:Sorry Espermachine...I know you mentioned to do that too, but I thought you were talking about linking the profiles to Scribus for some reason, which I knew I needed to do there. No idea why my brain wasn't computing this!


Thanks!

Great it worked ! It seems you are the first person to use this technique and report back, so i would be really curious to hear about your experiences.

What ICC profile did you use and how did you choose it ?

Also what kind of project are you trying to print ?

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby MelM » Sat May 14, 2016 4:26 pm

Hi Espermachine, thanks...yeah I was happy it worked.

I downloaded all of the Adobe ICC CMYK color profiles, but I only have used two of them USWebCoatedSWOP (3 and 5) to practice with. I haven't printed yet though but just added them to the svg doc I was working in, saved that doc and put it into Scribus to see how the colors matched and they all matched wonderfully! Of course they should if Scribus also is using same color profiles, which it is. The true test will be seeing how the PDF I saved from Scribus prints and I'll report back with the results when I get to it (I don't have the correct paper yet).

I wasn't really sure what color profile was best to use...I had found a website that mentioned for standard card stock the CMYK uswebcoatedswop was good. I have the uncoated color profile too and not really sure what the difference is (I assume for coated vs. uncoated papers maybe?) so I need to do a little more research, and of course practice printing too with different types of card stock papers.

As far as what type of project is needed to print, I want to be able to print my digital artwork for my own use to frame or make cards etc., but also I am making digital art (pattern designs and clipart mostly) for others to print for a variety of uses, so I want to be sure they are going to be able to print on standard card stock in the same colors the artwork is supposed to be. I know that previously I was not able to print a few of my designs in the right colors...some of the colors turned out a bit muddy, and so this will resolve that issue hopefully! I won't know what type of paper others will be using for my artwork, but I believe the USwebcoatedswop and USwebuncoatedswop profiles are pretty standard for most papers (I think). If anyone reading this knows differently, please let me know! :)

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Sat May 14, 2016 11:29 pm

Awesome ! Thanks MelM !

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Moini » Sun May 15, 2016 2:29 am

Usually, the printing service's website tells you which color profile they want. The service I'm using wants ISOcoatedv2 300%, for example. So I guess it might be good to know where you want to print before you select a color profile...?
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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Sun May 15, 2016 2:46 am

Moini wrote:Usually, the printing service's website tells you which color profile they want. The service I'm using wants ISOcoatedv2 300%, for example. So I guess it might be good to know where you want to print before you select a color profile...?

I was wondering if this is the case. That means i have to be well prepared and use the same copy shop every time.

Do xerox machines use an ICC profile ?

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Moini » Sun May 15, 2016 11:40 pm

I don't know about the specific brand, Esper, but I know that for the more expensive printers, you can do your own colorproofing and use an ICC profile at home. The usual printers seem to have their color profiles set fixed in the drivers that come with them, as far as I understand (but I'm not too knowledgeable here, so don't rely on this!)
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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby Espermaschine » Mon May 16, 2016 1:46 am

Moini wrote:I don't know about the specific brand, Esper, but I know that for the more expensive printers, you can do your own colorproofing and use an ICC profile at home. The usual printers seem to have their color profiles set fixed in the drivers that come with them, as far as I understand (but I'm not too knowledgeable here, so don't rely on this!)

I googled a german website and you can get an ICC profile emailed.
Requirements are the paper, printer name, nature of the printjob, etc.
All pretty specific.

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Re: Help with adding CMYK color profiles to Inkscape

Postby MelM » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:58 pm

Just adding an update to my original post here. I haven't been working with the CMYK colors since I posted about this, but now I am back to working with my projects and I have run into an issue with using the CMYK color profiles. When in the CMS tab in the Fill and Stroke dialog box, I choose the CMYK color profile I linked to the document...all is good so far - I see the color profile in the CMS tab in drop down menu, but then if I try to move the sliders to work with the colors on an object I have selected, the color sliders disappear and it goes back to "none". Sometimes I can click on one of the color sliders (clicking anywhere on the color bar of that slider) and the object will change color to whatever I clicked on, but then the color sliders still quickly disappear. So I have to keep clicking on the color profile in the drop down menu if the color still isn't what I want, and you have to act fast as they disappear rather quickly and go back to "none" - it's not an efficient method to say the least, though this issue seems like strange behavior and probably a glitch perhaps.

As an aside...this may be the issue that "Logos by Nick" described in his YouTube video about using CMYK in Inkscape, and he was told by one of the Inkscape developers in the comments section that it was indeed a glitch. I believe it is being addressed in a later version of Inkscape, so that will be great if they can get it to work better.


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