Want to make a braided spiral

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popezaphod
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Want to make a braided spiral

Postby popezaphod » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:07 am

I am very new to vector drawing and have a particular problem I am hoping the community can solve. It can be broken down (I believe) into two steps:

1) I want to create what looks like a braid of three colored cords or stripes - white, red, and black. It doesn't have to look like actual cords and can be a flat braid as long as it looks like the three colors are braided together.

2) I want to make this braid into a spiral.

Any help would be appreciated. Simple steps that a noob can follow will make you my hero.

hulf2012
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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby hulf2012 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:13 am

Hello,
Personaly, I would prefer if you could provide an sketch (hand made if you prefer) of what you want.

Try to learn first the basics of drawing in Inkscape here:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.html
If you have problems:
1.- Post a sample (or samples) of your file please.
2.- Please check here:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.html
3.- If you manage to solve your problem, please post here your solution.

popezaphod
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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby popezaphod » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:31 am

I have little to no artistic skills and cannot draw what I am thinking of freehand.

Here is a photo of a three-strand braid:

Image

Now imagine taking that braid in the last photo on the lower right and making a spiral out of it.

Image

If I could figure out how to make the braid, I expect I could use Pattern Along Path (LPE) using a spiral as the skeleton path. I just am at a loss on how to make the braid.

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby ragstian » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:08 pm

Hi

Have a look at my attempt at making a braid in an earlier thread;

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13865&p=54155&hilit=braid#p53987

Once you are up to speed on node editing etc you will have no problem making a spiral braid.

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Ragnar
Good Luck!
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RGDS
Ragnar

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:05 pm

There are also many svg braids online to borrow and experiment with... a spiral path could be used to modify the braid.

(Or, is it actually a helix, rather than a spiral?)
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby Lazur » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:37 am

Hi.

That is... some hard stuff.

Having read Ragnar's reply on that post I was thinking oh well, that is how to do it, why to come up with the same thing.
But.
Now designing something along your images it turns out it is simply impossible to handle it in a clean way.
Vector graphics seems always about hiding ugly seams beneath other objects -but with that pattern it is painful to handle.
Speaking of, I didn't even try to do that, as there would new problems arise with each solve.

Also it's not an explained one, rather then just how it evolved.
More things were scribbled around as I was playing around it, but deleted those to make it appear clearer.
-download the svg below and open in inkscape-

Used the pattern along path extension on a group for that:
SVG Image

Good luck!

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby popezaphod » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:11 am

Fantastic! Thanks!

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby ragstian » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:41 pm

Hi.

Lazur URH - Very Impressive!

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Ragnar
Good Luck!
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Lazur
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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby Lazur » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:27 pm

I'm glad you like it!
Still I see that there are lot of things that could have been involved.
Maybe someday I will revisit this problem.

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby v1nce » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:46 am

With a fake 3d filter

Image

<filter
style="color-interpolation-filters:sRGB"
id="filter3369"
inkscape:label="filter1">
<feMorphology
id="feMorphology3371"
radius="1"
stdDeviation="2.8999999999999999"
k1="3.3300000000000001"
result="result4"
in="SourceGraphic" />
<feColorMatrix
id="feColorMatrix3381"
values="1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 2 -1 0 "
result="result2" />
<feGaussianBlur
stdDeviation="1.7"
id="feGaussianBlur3373"
radius="3.5"
result="result5" />
<feDiffuseLighting
id="feDiffuseLighting3375"
result="result1"
k1="2.0800000000000001"
surfaceScale="3.75">
<feDistantLight
id="feDistantLight3377"
azimuth="260"
elevation="11.020408163265305" />
</feDiffuseLighting>
<feComposite
id="feComposite3379"
in2="SourceGraphic"
operator="arithmetic"
k1="0.79000000000000015"
k2="0"
result="result3"
k3="0.64999999999999991" />
<feMerge
id="feMerge3383"
k1="4.3799999999999999">
<feMergeNode
inkscape:collect="always"
id="feMergeNode3385"
in="result3" />
</feMerge>
</filter>

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby Lazur » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:58 am

That's awesome!

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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby Maestral » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:33 pm

Bravo!
:tool_zoom: <<< click! - but, those with a cheaper tickets should go this way >>> :!:

v1nce
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Re: Want to make a braided spiral

Postby v1nce » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:11 am

the first filter was a POC (there was no 3d effect on the black strand)
this one is better.

SVG Image

http://www.mediafire.com/download/bi7fibb1j1fr997/fake3d3.svg


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