Hi, I have looked all over for this question, Im sure it's asked but...
See attached photo. I am making stickers. The logo, in black, gets an outline in blue. I am using "dynamic offset" to just pull the node to balloon a duplicate (in blue) of the black logo. Other logos worked fine, this one is getting cut off at the bounding box limits, and the bounding box is not expanding with the dynamic offset expansion as it does in other logos. There must be something locked maybe? How do I get the bounding box to stop cutting off the edges?
thanks
Dynamic offset getting cut off
Dynamic offset getting cut off
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Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
Hhhmm, it's hard to say for sure. Does the logo object have any clipping applied to it? If you select the text/logo (with Selection tool), look at the bottom of the window at Inskcape's status bar. It will say "Text (font, n.n px) clipped in Layer 1" or something similar. Although no, I've just done some testing, and that does not appear to be the case. The offset would not be clipped, even though it was duplicated from a clipped object.
Is the logo imported? Well no, I don't think you'd be able to apply the offset to a non-vector object. Hhhmmm.....I seem to be stumped at the moment!
Could you please attach the SVG file to a reply (or upload to the host of your choice, and give is a link)? And also, please let us know your Inskcape version and operating system?
OH! Is there perhaps a white object, sort of like a frame, around the text/logo? Or maybe a separate wide white stroke? If that's not it, I"ll have to look at the SVG.
Or maybe someone else has an idea??
Is the logo imported? Well no, I don't think you'd be able to apply the offset to a non-vector object. Hhhmmm.....I seem to be stumped at the moment!
Could you please attach the SVG file to a reply (or upload to the host of your choice, and give is a link)? And also, please let us know your Inskcape version and operating system?
OH! Is there perhaps a white object, sort of like a frame, around the text/logo? Or maybe a separate wide white stroke? If that's not it, I"ll have to look at the SVG.
Or maybe someone else has an idea??
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Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
I can't tell that there is a frame. Here is the file uploaded. It is unchanged from the earlier pic on comment.
thanks fork helping.
aj
edit: forgot Inscape info u asked for : XQuartz 2.6.3 (xorg-server 1.10.3)
Mac OSX 10.7.2
thanks fork helping.
aj
edit: forgot Inscape info u asked for : XQuartz 2.6.3 (xorg-server 1.10.3)
Mac OSX 10.7.2
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Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
Whoa!
I'm not sure how this might have happened, but it looks like you might be learning as you go? Which is not a problem, that's how I do it, lol....everyone, I guess! The reason I say that is that there are so many Groups of 1 object. I had to ungroup many, many times before I finally got down to the problem.
The blue letters to which you applied the offset had indeed been clipped. There are others here who are better at diagnosing things, so maybe one of them can determine exactly how this happened. I also found that the black letters had been clipped, and I suspect that you simply duplicated the black lettering to create the blue, and that duplicated the clipping. Which is fine, but I don't see any reason why the black letters needed any clipping.
I think that one or more of the Groups of 1 had something to do with the clipping cutting off the offset, but I can't seem to reproduce it.
In any case, you can solve the problem by either ungrouping many, many times (probably the best way to do it), or at least ungroup until you get down to the clipped group. Once you see "Group of 2 objects clipped..." in the status bar, you can do Object menu > Clip > Release. Then you will see a black rectangle laying on top of the blue letters. First deselect everything, then you can select the black rectangle and delete it. As soon as you release the clip, you'll see the blue letters become whole, even with the black rectangle on top of it. Note that the black letters also are clipped, so that you need to make sure you start ungrouping with only the blue letters. Although it won't hurt to ungroup everything.
Hhhm, still investigating, lol.... I think you may have used grouping, at some point, because as I look through the file, one step at a time, sometimes I see blue letters lying above the black ones. So I think some of the Groups of 1 may come from getting letters all together. If that's the case, you can use Object menu > Raise or Lower, etc. to get the letters all above or all below each other.
Whoa! When I get down to the last Group of 1 on the blue letters, and ungroup, they get huge! And upside-down! I'm not sure at all how that happened! Maybe parts of this file originated from another program besides Inkscape??
If you have further trouble, or my instructions don't work, please do reply again. This may take someone else to sort this out
I'm not sure how this might have happened, but it looks like you might be learning as you go? Which is not a problem, that's how I do it, lol....everyone, I guess! The reason I say that is that there are so many Groups of 1 object. I had to ungroup many, many times before I finally got down to the problem.
The blue letters to which you applied the offset had indeed been clipped. There are others here who are better at diagnosing things, so maybe one of them can determine exactly how this happened. I also found that the black letters had been clipped, and I suspect that you simply duplicated the black lettering to create the blue, and that duplicated the clipping. Which is fine, but I don't see any reason why the black letters needed any clipping.
I think that one or more of the Groups of 1 had something to do with the clipping cutting off the offset, but I can't seem to reproduce it.
In any case, you can solve the problem by either ungrouping many, many times (probably the best way to do it), or at least ungroup until you get down to the clipped group. Once you see "Group of 2 objects clipped..." in the status bar, you can do Object menu > Clip > Release. Then you will see a black rectangle laying on top of the blue letters. First deselect everything, then you can select the black rectangle and delete it. As soon as you release the clip, you'll see the blue letters become whole, even with the black rectangle on top of it. Note that the black letters also are clipped, so that you need to make sure you start ungrouping with only the blue letters. Although it won't hurt to ungroup everything.
Hhhm, still investigating, lol.... I think you may have used grouping, at some point, because as I look through the file, one step at a time, sometimes I see blue letters lying above the black ones. So I think some of the Groups of 1 may come from getting letters all together. If that's the case, you can use Object menu > Raise or Lower, etc. to get the letters all above or all below each other.
Whoa! When I get down to the last Group of 1 on the blue letters, and ungroup, they get huge! And upside-down! I'm not sure at all how that happened! Maybe parts of this file originated from another program besides Inkscape??
If you have further trouble, or my instructions don't work, please do reply again. This may take someone else to sort this out

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Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
Thank you so much. I don't think I would have figured that out, I was pressing every button on there just seeing what would do.
The ungrouping (shift/ctrl/G) worked perfectly.
Yes, the file originated from who knows where, and was sent to me; probably professionally made in AI by a graphics artist originally. I am modifying it for sticker application with the outline.
I used the 'node tool/shift' to select each individual letter and symbol, then grouped them so I could use the 'Dynamic Off-set' tool to pull the "duplicated" logo (in blue) into the balloon shape.
What issues could this method cause? Is this a good method, or is there a better one? It seemed to work on other logos just fine.
"Convex hull corner to page border" appears at upper left of logo when I use the move tool on the black now. It jiggles when being moved.
thanks
Aj
The ungrouping (shift/ctrl/G) worked perfectly.
Yes, the file originated from who knows where, and was sent to me; probably professionally made in AI by a graphics artist originally. I am modifying it for sticker application with the outline.
I used the 'node tool/shift' to select each individual letter and symbol, then grouped them so I could use the 'Dynamic Off-set' tool to pull the "duplicated" logo (in blue) into the balloon shape.
What issues could this method cause? Is this a good method, or is there a better one? It seemed to work on other logos just fine.
"Convex hull corner to page border" appears at upper left of logo when I use the move tool on the black now. It jiggles when being moved.
thanks
Aj
Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
For work like this, I prefer to duplicate the original graphic, stroke this, and move it below the original. It seems to work better than dynamic outsets, and lets you specify the "outset" to the pixel.
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Re: Dynamic offset getting cut off
Hi Aj,
I'm trying to reproduce the
"Convex hull corner to page border"
that you reported, but I can't. It's not something I've seen in Inkscape before, or heard of. When you did the ungrouping, did you ungroup any of the black lettering? And by "move tool" I'm assuming you mean the Selection tool
?
OH! I know what it is! You probably have snapping enabled. It's control bar, depending on your Inkscape version, may either be across the top, just above the tool control bar, or vertically along the right side of the page. You just need to make sure that the first button is not engaged. The text is a little signal to tell you which element snapped to which target. And the jiggling is probably related to the snapping as well. Snapping sort of takes the selected object out of your control, for a fraction of a second, and aligns perfectly the object with the snap target. As long as you keep trying to control it by holding the mouse button, the longer it will jump around. So that if you were intentionally using snapping, you would just let go (of the mouse button) and let it snap
RobA's suggestion sounds good to me
I'm not sure what I would do, without knowing exactly how the original file existed, before you worked on it. If each letter was an individual path, I probably would have grouped them before duplicating. I guess it depends on how "balloony" you wanted the blue part. The Outset indeed usually results in a balloony appearance; while adding a stroke and removing the fill of the duplicate will make more of a sculptured appearance (more closely resembling the original and less balloony). But the wider you make the stroke, the more balloony it will be. In the end, if you looked at both techniques side by side, you probably would notice the difference, but not notice much difference.
I'm trying to reproduce the
"Convex hull corner to page border"
that you reported, but I can't. It's not something I've seen in Inkscape before, or heard of. When you did the ungrouping, did you ungroup any of the black lettering? And by "move tool" I'm assuming you mean the Selection tool

OH! I know what it is! You probably have snapping enabled. It's control bar, depending on your Inkscape version, may either be across the top, just above the tool control bar, or vertically along the right side of the page. You just need to make sure that the first button is not engaged. The text is a little signal to tell you which element snapped to which target. And the jiggling is probably related to the snapping as well. Snapping sort of takes the selected object out of your control, for a fraction of a second, and aligns perfectly the object with the snap target. As long as you keep trying to control it by holding the mouse button, the longer it will jump around. So that if you were intentionally using snapping, you would just let go (of the mouse button) and let it snap

RobA's suggestion sounds good to me

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