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Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:19 am

Hello everyone!

I am just beginning to use inkscape to create a logo but then not knowing how to use it at the start, to clear areas I put white stripes ...
Now I would like to find out how I see my red outline drawing in order to erase the white stripes .... who can help me?
I apologize for the translation, I am French and I use translation software.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby llogg » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:30 am

Hi, Zionejma. I am not sure I know exactly what you are getting at here. If you just want an object with a red stroke and a transparent fill you would select the object and use the fill and stroke dialog. Please post a picture of what you have now and an example of what you are trying to do so that we can help better.

Actually, I think that should be a general rule for all questions, but especially for non-English speakers -- pictures are worth a thousand words. And svg files maybe a million of them.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby brynn » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:51 pm

Welcome Zionejma!

It also helps if you can say what you did, step by step.

...to clear areas I put white stripes ...

What areas?
What do you mean by "clear"? Solid white? Transparent? Erase?
Why stripes?
Are you working with an existing image and trying to modify it? Or are you trying to draw a new image starting with a blank page?

Now I would like to find out how I see my red outline drawing in order to erase the white stripes

Why can you not see the red outline? Is it covered by the white stripes? I don't understand the white stripes. Why do you now want to erase them?

It sounds vaguely like you might be looking for Path menu > Difference. But there is far too little information for me to be clear about what you're doing and what you want to do.

Using the translation software is fine, as long as we all have patience, and realize that sometimes things don't come out exactly the way we intend.

Wait, isn't there a French-speaking Inkscape forum. Here: http://www.inkscape-fr.org/. Is it still in existance? It looks fine to me when I open the site, but not speaking French, I wouldn't know if it says "Closed" for example. Actually, it looks more like a blog than a forum.....??

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:52 am

To start I want to thank you for your answers!
I'll post my picture and try to be more specific!

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:57 am

Initially I had this drawing
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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:00 am

And not knowing me use inkscape, I try to erase what I wanted it. For this I put the color white.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:08 am

So here is the result




I copy over the image and I removed the old model
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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:15 am

I wish I could see the drawing with the vectorization. Where I could find the contours that make up my drawing to remove the white I used to hide areas that I did not want?

But the drawing does not appear in preview of the bitmap vectorization and I can not vectorize my drawing.

Vectorization clearly shows the design in green? just the outline? and not red as I said previously.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:33 am

On a blue background is the result and I want to remove the white ...





You know what I want to do?


I could go all the drawing, but I will not know again the green lines below
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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:38 am

And thank you for the link! I had already watched. But nowhere to my questions!
And I have not found other forums!

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby druban » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:42 am

Hi Zion, I am guessing from the look of that last image that you are using the eraser to remove objects. Did you try selecting the objects with :tool_selector: and pressing delete? Sometimes you have to use the ctrl key with the :tool_selector: to select an object if it is within a group.
At this point, I am guessing again,you have a large and fragmented white object you want to get rid of??
You can use alt + the :tool_selector: to select objects just by dragging over a part of them. But this will select all the objects your drag path touches (the line drawn by the :tool_selector: as it moves).

Where I could find the contours that make up my drawing to remove the white I used to hide areas that I did not want?
You might want to switch to outline view (View menu > display mode > outline) Once again in this mode it might be useful to use alt + :tool_selector:

I am not at all sure where the vectorization question comes in. maybe unrelated to your other question??
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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby brynn » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:22 am

But the drawing does not appear in preview of the bitmap vectorization and I can not vectorize my drawing.

It sounds like your original image is in a raster format (JPG, PNG, GIF, for example). Now I understand that you were using white stripes to try and cover up the parts that you didn't want.

In the Trace Bitmap dialog (bitmap vectorization), the Update feature of the Preview does not work for the first option (Brightness Cutoff). For all the other options, you have to click Update to see the preview. For the first option (Brightness Cutoff), you have to click Ok, and if it's not what you want, then Undo. And repeat until you find the right setting for your trace (vectorization). For all the other options, click Update to see the preview.

By the way, do you have Inkscape with the French language? If not, setting up Inkscape in French will probably help quite a lot!

If you can get a successful trace (vectorization), you will not need the white strips. You could just delete the parts you don't want.

Where I could find the contours that make up my drawing to remove the white I used to hide areas that I did not want?

But if you can't get a successful trace (vectorization), you should be able to just click on the white strips with the Selection tool :tool_selector: and then Delete. Since I'm not completely clear about your process....meaning that I haven't used your particular approach (of covering up areas, copy, and then remove the white that you covered with) I'm not sure, but you might find the parts that you covered up are still there. If that happens though, I think you should be able to get a good trace of that original image that you showed us. That should be no problem.

Now that you know the tip about Update Preview, maybe you can get a good trace (vectorization) of your image, and then just delete what you don't want? That would be the best solution to the problem!

EDIT
Here's a link to the chapter on using the Trace Bitmap dialog in the Inkscape manual: Basics - Help menu > Tutorials
Manual -
Inkscape: Guide to a Vector Drawing Program
Inkscape Community - Inkscape FAQ - Gallery
Inkscape for Cutting Design

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby tomh » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:40 am

http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL ... Trace.html looks pretty in date to me...

On to your problem. think what you want to do is use a clip path french;[urlhttp://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Clip.html]english[/url]. Basically, you draw over all the areas that you want to see in your drawing; then select both and go object->clip->set

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby brynn » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:41 am

tomh wrote: think what you want to do is use a clip path

Actually yes! I've been struggling to understand the problem so much that I didn't really see the easy solution. If Zionejma does not really need a vector image (SVG), he/she could just Clip the original raster image, and avoid the trace altogether.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:21 am

Hello I read and reread, I try to work on my drawing but I can not!
The software is in French but I do not understand anything! I'm not gifted!
Does anyone would like me to do?? I know it's asking a lot but I'm not capable. There is nothing to do and it annoys me!

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby Zionejma » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:26 am

When I select with the arrow just disappears. I have been unbundled, but it does not work.

I also display menu, display mode and contour and there, there is nothing on the screen.

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Re: Problem I am beginner and I need help

Postby brynn » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:07 am

Oh, I'm sorry you're having so much trouble :(

If you would like to upload your SVG file (look below the Submit button for "Upload attachment" tab, and follow prompts), then we can download it, open and examine it, and then give you very specific suggestions.


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