Editing Tiled Clones

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Fabienne
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Editing Tiled Clones

Postby Fabienne » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:31 am

I need to edit a sheet of tiled clones but I am not getting the trick to it.

I made a label and selected all and grouped it so the elements would stay together. I named it label.svg. Then I opened up a blank sheet and put my guides where I wanted the labels and opened label.svg and pasted it in position. I selected it and went to Edit--->clone--->Tile Clones. I made up 3 columns of 10 rows each. I saved it as labelsheet.svg.

I found out that some of the text needed to be changed. I opened labelsheet.svg and changed the label in the upper left corner but the others did not change. I tried ungrouping it and found that it was a label on top of a label. I moved the top one and could ungroup the bottom one (I am thinking that the bottom upper left label is the original). I changed the original and nothing happened to the clones, they all have the old text on them. I tried "select the original" but nothing got selected.

Can you please tell me how to edit clones that you have tiled? I am missing something here but I am not sure what. All of the places I have been looking in tell you you can do it but...how? Thanks.

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Re: Editing Tiled Clones

Postby Fabienne » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:00 am

The self help desk struck again. Of course, as soon as I ask the question I figure out the answer. BUT, it's not as obvious as you might think. Here is what I learned:

1) Make up the label. Put everything where you want it but do not group before you save it. If you group it before you save it, then you cannot edit the clones because the original is "locked". (Don't worry, the logic to this will become far more troubling as we go on). I select All, copy and then go on to 2).

2) Open the size of document you want and determine where you want your saved piece to go. Paste your piece and you will be able to place it where you want it as if it had been grouped. Remember it is ungrouped at this stage BUT you want to group it now. Why? Because you cannot clone collections of things which are not grouped.

3) Now open the dialog about edit--->Clone--->Tile Clones and get your multiples out. That should give you the quantity of images you want. BUT now, let's say you want to change something.

4) Find your original (mine was under the label in the upper left corner...I had to move the clone which was on top of it and found the original). Then you select the original and you can edit it and the clones will change, even though technically, the original is still grouped from from step 2 above.

That is all there is to it. I just have to remember to keep the first one I do as ungrouped and saved, and then copy and paste it, then group the original before I clone. That is all there is to it. Sorry I asked the question, but I found out something fairly profound and wanted to share it with anyone else who might be experiencing the same quandary I was.

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Re: Editing Tiled Clones

Postby prkos » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:31 am

Well not exactly lol I'm sorry I couldn't reply earlier.

When tiling clones (rows and columns) you will get exactly rowsxcolumns number of clones, in your case 30.

It is definitely good to group the whole label, it makes editing a bit easier. If you have grouped the label objects into one group, after tiling try hitting Ctrl + a to select all objects, you'll see there's 31 (statusbar tells you), this is clones + original.

The original label that is a normal group and not a clone is located under the first clone (top left). So you can move it away to the side, select objects under other objects using Alt. This way you edit the original that is displayed somewhere on the side.

Or delete the top left clone and edit the original in place ;)
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