Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

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Timitry
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Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby Timitry » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:29 am

Hello together!

My Judo-Club is just undergoing a lot of changes, one of them was the design of a new logo.

This is how it looks like:
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Now, since we want to make T-Shirts for the kids, there'd be need for that logo in a high resolution, or best, as a .svg! That's where i entered the stage and started drawing it with inkscape (great program btw!). Here's the progress so far:
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It was quite easy to draw the straight parts like the steps, a bit harder to make the trapezes, and already a bit complicated to make that round roof-thing + having both sides symmetrical. I found the japanese signs for judo on the internet, however, i don't have permission to use them yet without giving credits (which would get difficult for a logo...), if i don't get this, i'll have to redraw that.
Now, like you might have noticed, the two fighters in the middle are still missing in that image. That's because they are the most difficult part ;) I started off by redrawing the fighters with the :tool_pencil: , making the lines rather thick and a little bit diffuse. I tried to do the legs, the results were not THAT bad, but i'm not that convinced, too... What i'm doing currently is just choosing the pencil tool and drawing a line, but for each new line, i have to change the width and diffuse level over and over again... Is there a way to make standard settings to that, or is there maybe a better way to remodel those fighters? If anyone feels like doing this for me, this would just be so greatly appreciated!!! But since i know this is a lot to demand, i rather ask for tips on how to do it, i want to make it look as good as i can!
I attached my progress, note that we are 2 clubs in one, so there will be two versions of the logo, the one for "alfter" only has another sun, another text and the judo-signs on the left... The old logo is in the file, too, the lowest layer called "altes logo".

If you have any comments or suggestions on other parts of the logo, please let me know those too :) Changing the original design of the logo, however, is not that much an option, since we already produced some stuff with that logo...

Thanks in advance,
Timitry
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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby prkos » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:45 am

You can get great great results with Trace bitmap option (under Path menu), try playing with the brightness cutoff option. Just look at the fighters, you can delete the trace of the rest of the image since you have it already.
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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby Timitry » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:41 am

Hello!

Wow, that really worked like a charm, if just anything in live would be so easy :) Just had to remove some knots...

Now i just have two more questions, and i think i'm done:

1. How can i make the "background" of the fighter non-transparent? So that the sun will not shine through them...
2. How can i change the standard-size of my .svg? Currently it is at about 1800px x 1800px, i know this does not really matter for .svgs, but it is still nicer that if you open a .svg in firefox, you don't get such a big image, but rather a 300x300px one... I could of course resize the objects, but i did not yet find a way to select all of them at once...

Thanks a lot,
Timitry
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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby KolorGuild » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:50 pm

The only way you can make the fighters non-transparent is by using the Bezier tool to create a solid shape behind them and making it white.
And to be able to get a smaller image you have to place your SVG design on a smaller canvas size and resave it. Don't know why you can't resize them all at once though. If you select all of the layers (make sure they're unlocked) you should be able to scale them without a problem?

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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby prkos » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:13 pm

As mentioned above you need an object with white fill behind the fighters, in the shape of the fighters. To do that I would duplicate the fighters (then change the color from black to something else it's easier to see what you're doing) use the Node tool to select all the inwards paths nodes and delete them so you get a compact object instead of a hollow one.

Select all of the objects at once by hitting Ctrl + a, there is an icon on the Selector tool toolbar for it too. If you have more than one layer there is an option in Inkscape preferences to select objects within all layers.
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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby EarlyBlake » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:11 pm

Take you traced figure path. Duplicate it. Do a break paths apart under the paths menu or shift ctlr K. Then do a union under paths menu again. You'll have one path now. Set the fill to white. Turn off any stroke. Lower the new path to behind the figures. If a few bits of orange show through. Select the new path with the :tool_node: and delete any stray nodes inside.

OR f that doesn't work for some reason, you can use the :tool_paintbucket: to fill in where needed. The bucket fill wouldn't cover completely you can use outset under path menu to grow the fill or widen the path boarder to cover. Then hide the ruff edges by lowering the fill around under the outline.

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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby microUgly » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:15 pm

I actually would have asked you club manager to look up who designed the logo in the first place, then approach them to get the original version. It looks like it was already vector being provided to you as a low-res bitmap. But I'm particular like that--If I ran a company it would be expressly forbidden to attempt to redraw my company logo.

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Re: Help with creating my club-logo - help wth drawing freehand

Postby Timitry » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:38 pm

Hello again!

I just wanted to give some feedback, which i totally forgot up until now!

The resizing worked very well after changing the setting so that i will select all objects by pressing ctrl+a, i then just locked the side ratio and set the width to 300px.

For the background of the fighters, i used the method to duplicate them and delete all the nobs on the inside, which was quite easy and worked quite well, too!

Here's the result, i really like it :)
Thanks for all your help, and thanks to the developers for this great programm!

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