Font Problem -Windows 7

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BillE
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Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby BillE » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:54 pm

I have a Win 7 64-bit machine. I just downloaded Inkscape .91 I am new to Inkscape and cant get a windows true-type font (Betsy) to be applied. It shows up on the font list but is displayed as a generic font, san-serif apparently. and only regular font, no bold or italic. The font is installed on my machine and usable in bold, regular and italic from office documents, and other software I have. I tried other fonts and some on the list are applied ok but a bunch show up in the same generic font like the Betsy does. Any suggestions?

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:59 pm

Some programs will find and run fonts that are not actually installed as windows system fonts, Inkscape will use system installed fonts. This can be confusing, e.g. if GIMP can use a font, but Inkscape can't.

Similarly, Windows can install fonts via shortcut (where the font data file resides in another folder) and Inkscape cannot use those fonts until they are installed with the data file the Windows fonts folder.

So, ensure the font is windows-installed in the windows font folder.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=18252


Another tactic is to find a similar font that will work, If "Betsy" is a keyboard-keycap looking font, maybe try "Keystroke" (all caps) or a similar knockoff.

Bitmap fonts don't work in Inkscape, most open fonts and truetype fonts do...
Inkscape does not see some of the fonts (Windows)
This was a bug in versions of Inkscape up to 0.43, caused by using an obsolete font cache. This cache is stored in the file called .fonts.cache-1. This file may be in your Windows folder, or in your Temp folder, or in "My documents" folder, or in the folder listed in the $HOME environment variable. Use file search by name to locate this file. Then simply delete this file and restart Inkscape; now it will see the new fonts.
If you are using 0.44 or 0.45 then OpenType/PostScript and Type1 fonts are not supported (this is a side-effect of the method used to fix the previous bug).
The issues with OpenType/PostScript and Type 1 fonts have been fixed in Inkscape 0.46.

Windows internally supports several different types of font:
    Bitmap and vector fonts (red "A" icon) will never be supported by Inkscape because they are too simple to be useful for drawing. They're generally used on-screen only.
    TrueType fonts (blue/gray "TT" icon) are fully supported
    Type1 fonts (red "a" with shadow icon) are fully supported since 0.46
    OpenType fonts (green/black "O" icon) come in two subtypes: TrueType outlines and PostScript outlines. To tell the difference, double click the font file from Control Panel, Fonts and read the second line of text. TrueType outlines are fully supported. PostScript outlines are fully supported since 0.46.

Bolding has no effect on some fonts
Some fonts are available with in an unique, "normal" variant, i.e., no italics or bold. Nonetheless, Inkscape currently displays four styles available for them: Normal, Italics, Bold, Bold Italics. Italics is correctly faked by inclining the font, but bolding cannot be faked at this point. Since the font file does not have a Bold variant, the result would likely be of poor quality, anyway. You should rather consider using a font with a real Bold variant.

http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php ... Windows.29


Recent note, maybe helpful for some, related to font variants:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16452&p=68600
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby tylerdurden » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:07 am

Works here:
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Last edited by tylerdurden on Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby BillE » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:16 am

Thanks for your detailed reply. Some comments below

tylerdurden wrote:Some programs will find and run fonts that are not actually installed as windows system fonts, Inkscape will use system installed fonts. This can be confusing, e.g. if GIMP can use a font, but Inkscape can't.

Similarly, Windows can install fonts via shortcut (where the font data file resides in another folder) and Inkscape cannot use those fonts until they are installed with the data file the Windows fonts folder.

So, ensure the font is windows-installed in the windows font folder.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=18252
I will try this

Another tactic is to find a similar font that will work, If "Betsy" is a keyboard-keycap looking font, maybe try "Keystroke" (all caps) or a similar knockoff.

Bitmap fonts don't work in Inkscape, most open fonts and truetype fonts do...
This is a True Type Font

I had seen the post below, but it ddnt seem to appy because this is a truetype font and I am using Inkscape .91
Inkscape does not see some of the fonts (Windows)
This was a bug in versions of Inkscape up to 0.43, caused by using an obsolete font cache. This cache is stored in the file called .fonts.cache-1. This file may be in your Windows folder, or in your Temp folder, or in "My documents" folder, or in the folder listed in the $HOME environment variable. Use file search by name to locate this file. Then simply delete this file and restart Inkscape; now it will see the new fonts.
If you are using 0.44 or 0.45 then OpenType/PostScript and Type1 fonts are not supported (this is a side-effect of the method used to fix the previous bug).
The issues with OpenType/PostScript and Type 1 fonts have been fixed in Inkscape 0.46.

Windows internally supports several different types of font:
    Bitmap and vector fonts (red "A" icon) will never be supported by Inkscape because they are too simple to be useful for drawing. They're generally used on-screen only.
    TrueType fonts (blue/gray "TT" icon) are fully supported
    Type1 fonts (red "a" with shadow icon) are fully supported since 0.46
    OpenType fonts (green/black "O" icon) come in two subtypes: TrueType outlines and PostScript outlines. To tell the difference, double click the font file from Control Panel, Fonts and read the second line of text. TrueType outlines are fully supported. PostScript outlines are fully supported since 0.46.

Bolding has no effect on some fonts
Some fonts are available with in an unique, "normal" variant, i.e., no italics or bold. Nonetheless, Inkscape currently displays four styles available for them: Normal, Italics, Bold, Bold Italics. Italics is correctly faked by inclining the font, but bolding cannot be faked at this point. Since the font file does not have a Bold variant, the result would likely be of poor quality, anyway. You should rather consider using a font with a real Bold variant.

http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php ... Windows.29


Recent note, maybe helpful for some, related to font variants:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16452&p=68600

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby BillE » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:49 pm

I think I found the problem. I don't see this exact issue addressed in FAQs or other posts. I checked my font installation and found that all the fonts that were giving me problems were installed properly in the Windows directory, no shortcuts. They are all true type fonts from "Altsys Metamorphosis 11/5/97". I have a good number of these. For all of these, if you right click on the font and look at the properties/details tab you see that the property "Font Embeddability" has a value of "Restricted". All the fonts that work fine in Inkscape that I checked have a value of "Editable". Since all my other software, including Microsoft, Adobe, etc render these problem fonts just fine, I take it that Inkscape pays attention to the Font Embeddability property but the others do not. I installed some fonts downloaded from Google Fonts and they are recognized by Inkscape just fine. They have a Font Embeddability value of Editable. I will use these fonts.

This may explain some of the mystery font problems. There may be other font suppliers who also set this parameter to "Restricted" If I am correct, It might not be a bad idea for Inkscape to ignore the Font Embeddability parameter. It appears everyone else does.

Bill

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Re: Font Problem -Windows 7

Postby tylerdurden » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:26 am

That doesn't seem to be the issue here. The version I have indicates "Restricted", yet working fine in Inkscape as seen above.
Betsy-Restricted.jpg
Betsy-Restricted.jpg (233.24 KiB) Viewed 3680 times

I downloaded "Betsy Flanagan" from about.com http://desktoppub.about.com/library/fon ... anagan.htm

(I'm not sure I'd trust that ufont source... they tried to download a pile of crap on me, when I checked them out.)
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/


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