| Tavmjong | ================== Board Meeting =================== | |
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| Tavmjong | Who is here? | |
| * imageconstructor | ||
| Tavmjong | bryce, doctomon, JonCruz, karen, tedg, Scislac ? | |
| karen | hi Tavmjong! | |
| karen | o/ | |
| JonCruz | hi | |
| Tavmjong | hi karen! | |
| doctormon | Hi! | |
| Tavmjong | I think Scislac will be a bit late. | |
| karen | I've been sick this past week but I think my action item of getting you the FSA from Tony is done, thanks to Tony :D | |
| * bryce heys | ||
| Tavmjong | karen, Great! Have you sent it out yet? | |
| karen | Tavmjong, you guys didn't get it? | |
| karen | let me check | |
| Tavmjong | karen, not that I know of... | |
| bryce | I've not afaik | |
| karen | whoops! He sent it just to me | |
| karen | will pass it on | |
| Tavmjong | FSA (Fiscal Sponsership Agreement) for those that don't know... our agreement with the SFC. | |
| * Moini (~maren@ip1f10af2f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has joined #inkscape-devel | ||
| karen | sorry about that all | |
| karen | just eyeballing it first | |
| Tavmjong | karen, OK, so we can discuss it via email or at next weeks meeting. | |
| Tavmjong | Topic: Hackfest ------------- | |
| Tavmjong | I think someone had a revised, revised version of The Pitch. Has it been put on the Hackfest page? | |
| bryce | working on it | |
| * FailBit | ||
| karen | actually, I think Tony misunderstood. he has weekly meetings as the default way of carrying on business by the PLC | |
| bryce | ran it by my wife and she did some copyediting. She's a gradeschool teacher so had to print it out to redline, so I gotta re-type. :-P | |
| Tavmjong | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#The_Pitch | |
| bryce | some particulars she mentioned... | |
| bryce | she thought "buy a developer a beverage" makes it sound like we're going to be boozing it up and suggest dropping that | |
| bryce | also suggested that instead of buy lunch for hackfest, to do a Business level at $500, and a Corporate level at $5000 | |
| bryce | or something quite high like that | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, I kind of agree about the beverage thing... | |
| bryce | also, offering perks for the corporate level, like including their logo on promotional materials or what not | |
| bryce | something to give them extra justification for the sponsorship, that wouldn't cost us much | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, What promotional material would we be producing? | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, We could put their logo on the Hackfest page. | |
| bryce | don't know. She was thinking like the conference web page and/or donation page, if we have brochures or handouts or presentation templates, etc. those'd be places. | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, I kind of like the "Business level" rather than lunch as $500 for lunch for 12 hackers seems like a lot. | |
| bryce | her original suggestion was "on your booth banner" but I admitted we didn't have a booth | |
| bryce | yeah, that was what she suggested | |
| bryce | one sec, children issue, bbias | |
| Tavmjong | We might have a few talks at LGM where we could display the logo. | |
| Tavmjong | Who's thinking about giving a talk at LGM? | |
| karen | well you could put up a banner in the room with a sponsor name/logo | |
| karen | yeah that works too | |
| karen | good suggestions by your wide, bryce! | |
| karen | s/wide/wife | |
| Tavmjong | While we wait for bryce, any status report on the Donation page design? | |
| Tavmjong | Who is doing the final design? | |
| bryce | sorry, ok where was I | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, Ways to reward sponsers... | |
| bryce | oh last suggestion she metioned having an amount that is like the equiv of half an Adobe Illustrator license | |
| bryce | (or perhaps a full license equivalent cost) | |
| Tavmjong | How much is a license? | |
| bryce | dunno. few hundred I'm guessing? | |
| doctormon | bryce: Actually MO from Red"Hat had that idea ages ago | |
| bryce | rest is just copyedits which I'll factor in | |
| doctormon | I'd save that one for a yearly subscription offering | |
| Tavmjong | https://creative.adobe.com/plans | |
| bryce | doctormon, ah not a bad idea | |
| Tavmjong | 25Euros/month for Illustrator (Individual) | |
| Tavmjong | $20/month | |
| JonCruz | Tavmjong: is that a monthly thing, or "easy payments" for an annual? | |
| bryce | $360/yr + tax | |
| JonCruz | Tavmjong: that sounds backwards. $ is less | |
| JonCruz | Should be $31.26 currently | |
| Tavmjong | JonCruz, It appears to be monthly. And yes, that seems backwards but it is what it is showing. It's the "Euro" tax. | |
| JonCruz | aha! | |
| doctormon | JonCruz: Never heard of RipOff Britain? Well known difference in prices between US and EU because of taxes and various other factors. | |
| JonCruz | Tavmjong: beats the AU tax | |
| bryce | $240/yr individual, $360/yr business | |
| JonCruz | Where flying from AU to the US, buying the box there, then flying back was cheaper than buying in AU | |
| Tavmjong | Yea, prices are often the same in $, Euros, and pounds; ignoring exchange rates. | |
| bryce | ouch | |
| JonCruz | same would be ok... but reverted is eeeks | |
| doctormon | Prices for these things are arbitrary anyway. That's why open source is important to capitalists ;-) | |
| Tavmjong | 1 Euro = 1.25 Dollars | |
| Tavmjong | OK, back to business... | |
| Tavmjong | So we could have a $120 level. | |
| Tavmjong | ... which fills in a bit of the gap between $50 and $500 | |
| * bryce nods | ||
| Tavmjong | bryce, You'll take an action to update The Pitch? | |
| bryce | yep | |
| bryce | one other thing, we need to be sure to highlight that donations are tax deductable. For some people that'll be a huge selling point. | |
| bryce | besides we go to ample trouble to ensure we can say that, so we should! :-) | |
| Tavmjong | Then back to my earlier question: Who is doing the actual donations page? | |
| Tavmjong | Last week's mock-up: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvshnhd5algn2cb/mock1.svg | |
| JonCruz | oh, yes. End of the year tax deductible push is good, as people suddenly start to think about IRS and consequences | |
| karen | yes definitely | |
| Tavmjong | So we need the page up and advertised before the end of the year! | |
| karen | as a piece of inside info, Conservnacy is going to do an end of year campaign pretty soon | |
| ScislaC | Sorry, traffic was worse than expected. | |
| bryce | re: coordination/timing, I'm pretty confident we can have the release out before EOY | |
| doctormon | Tavmjong: you mean https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/2180/ | |
| Tavmjong | doctormon, Yes, but it renders poorly in Firefox. | |
| doctormon | Bitmap it then | |
| JonCruz | eeek | |
| doctormon | (also download available on that page) | |
| * Tavmjong Why does it look good in Inkscape but not Firefox? | ||
| ScislaC | it looks fine in crhome | |
| ScislaC | chrome even | |
| doctormon | looks good in my Firefox | |
| bryce | revision work done - http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015#Alternate_Pitch_language | |
| ScislaC | doctormon: looks bad in my Firefox too | |
| doctormon | Firefox v33 - Ubuntu | |
| bryce | I've got 33 here, and it looks ok | |
| Tavmjong | Firefox v33.1 - Fedora Could be a font thing? | |
| bryce | well, regardless, next step here should be to paste those bits into an actual django page | |
| Tavmjong | +1 | |
| karen | weird there's no picture in epiphany | |
| bryce | who want's this task? Be a great way to dip your toes in django, shouldn't be too terribly hard. | |
| doctormon | Under Donate > Hackfest 2015 ? | |
| doctormon | bryce: The design requires absolutely no django, just html in the cms and probably a bit of css. | |
| ScislaC | Firefox 33 here- http://imgur.com/mMT1Fg0 | |
| bryce | doctormon, well, presuming we have a top level Hackfest 2015 page for the event itself, where would that go? | |
| doctormon | Top level? So either not in the menu at all, or we'd take away one of the other top level items. (which I wouldn't want to do) | |
| bryce | doctormon, well by django I mean using the web administrative tool, not hacking on the guts. :-) | |
| Tavmjong | doctormon, That might be hiding it too far down. We might temporarily replace our Donate page with the Hackfest one. | |
| ScislaC | Tavmjong: +1 to that | |
| bryce | doctormon, sheesh my phrasing is sucking today | |
| bryce | I mean top level in the sense of like main landing page for the event. Not suggesting top level in the menu | |
| Tavmjong | Hey, you don't have to be a board member to volunteer! | |
| bryce | so like would you want Contribute -> Hackfests, or Develop -> Events -> Hackfest 2015, or ...? | |
| FailBit | hmm | |
| FailBit | https://i.imgur.com/zEjBCJh.png | |
| Moini | I'll do it, on two conditions: 1) I need a good picture which we may use (so someone needs to ask) 2) doctormon needs to allow some more tags/css stuff in the editor, or we won't get any green boxes. | |
| bryce | hmm, although now that I think about it, having the donation "campaign" as a sub-item under Donate makes a huge amount of sense. We can just cross-link there from whereever we put other hackfest pages | |
| doctormon | bryce, Moini: https://inkscape.org/en/donate/hackfest/ | |
| Tavmjong | doctormon, Can you help out Moini? | |
| bryce | Moini, thanks! | |
| Moini | :) | |
| Tavmjong | I can do the asking about permission to use the photo. | |
| doctormon | Moini and I are help buddies Tavmjong :-) | |
| Moini | Tav, Thanks! | |
| Moini | So, is the alternate pitch agreed on? | |
| doctormon | Moini: Dot he green boxes and pass me the css, I'll add it to main.css as a core style. We can add class attributes right? | |
| Moini | Not sure. | |
| karen | oh! on the text we should say: All donations are fully tax deductable *to the extent permitted by law* | |
| Moini | doctormon, Yes. | |
| karen | because they will not be deductible to all donors, depending on where they are | |
| doctormon | About to reset the webserver, hold hats | |
| bryce | karen, ok | |
| karen | thanks bryce | |
| Tavmjong | $5 – ?? | |
| * FailBit tightly gripping hat | ||
| Tavmjong | $120 – Half of a year's subscription to a proprietary drawing program. | |
| Tavmjong | Moini, I would go ahead with the Alternative Pitch language and then we can tweak it if necessary. | |
| Moini | Tav, great! | |
| bryce | ok, updated with those suggestions | |
| bryce | not sure what to say for $5. open to suggestions | |
| bryce | could make it $10 and say "Buys one lunch" | |
| bryce | or Covers one lunch or whatever | |
| bryce | Tavmjong, maybe we can do a show of hands for if everyone prefers the current Alt Pitch, so we can drop the other text? | |
| bryce | +1 Alt Pitch | |
| Tavmjong | +1 Alt Pitch | |
| doctormon | Moini: Did you have a patch for allowing styles in the chkeditor? | |
| ScislaC | +1 Alt Pitch | |
| Moini | doctormon, no, I only know that this requires editing of a settings file for CKEditor. | |
| Tavmjong | JonCruz, tedg: Opinions on pitch? Anybody else? | |
| Moini | Who has the donation button details? | |
| bryce | I do | |
| bryce | where should I post them? | |
| JonCruz | +1 Alt Pitch | |
| Moini | Bryce, you could paste them in directly - or put them into your Inkscape, as long as there are no privacy concerns | |
| bryce | I'll paste them at inkscape.org, one sec | |
| Tavmjong | bryce, I think we can drop the original pitch text. | |
| bryce | Moini, https://inkscape.org/en/paste/2438/ | |
| Moini | Bryce, thanks, I meant Inkspace, of course ;) | |
| bryce | Tavmjong, great, will do. It'll still be in the page changelog history for reference | |
| Tavmjong | Any other urgent business as I'll be needing to go soon. | |
| doctormon | bryce: You editing the page on live or is that Moini? | |
| bryce | btw I also got Bradley's directions for querying the donation amounts from Ledger. | |
| Moini | That's me. | |
| bryce | doctormon, I've only been editing the Hackfest2015 wiki page | |
| doctormon | oh ok. I updated config.js to test the styles | |
| bryce | one last thing... I'd like all board members to send in their gpg pubkeys | |
| doctormon | Moini: Looks like you have full access to the style sheets. Also you knocked out my resized photo, so I'm about to put it back. | |
| JonCruz | aaagh. keys. bleah. management | |
| bryce | well, board members plus anyone administrating anything, so that includes doctormon | |
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| Tavmjong | doctormon, We need to get permission to use the photo first... | |
| JonCruz | any suggestions on keygen? I think I'm about due | |
| doctormon | Tavmjong: understood, Moini I'm holding off on the photo. | |
| doctormon | bryce: I'm a non-bored member ;-) | |
| bryce | JonCruz, steps 1, 2, and 3 of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/credentials/view/head:/README | |
| JonCruz | RSA 4096 bit still good? | |
| bryce | JonCruz, shouldn't it? | |
| bryce | JonCruz, yes: "Pick RSA with a keylength of 4096 bits" | |
| bryce | Tavmjong, ok good point to close the meeting. | |
| Tavmjong | See you all next week (if not before)... | |
| doctormon | Thanks Tavmjong | |
| ScislaC | Thanks everyone, sorry I was late. | |
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