| Mc | == Inkscape Board Meeting == | May 03 10:00 |
|---|---|---|
| *tedg waves | May 03 10:00 | |
| *ryangorley waves | May 03 10:01 | |
| Mc | Bryce cannot attend, Tav is away too, doctormo was here 1 hour ago and the rocketchat does not work | May 03 10:01 |
| Moini | Yep, that sums it up :) | May 03 10:02 |
| Mc | (I'm not sure about Tavmjong, he might be here ?) | May 03 10:02 |
| Moini | Rocket chat works, only the certificate doesn't. | May 03 10:02 |
| Tavmjong | Just got back from the south, need a few minutes to unpack the car. | May 03 10:02 |
| Moini | And thus the bridge, and the app. | May 03 10:02 |
| Mc | yeah but it uses websocket, which cert can't really be whitelisted ? | May 03 10:02 |
| doctormon | Here | May 03 10:03 |
| Moini | Bryce was there a couple minutes ago, but had to go again. | May 03 10:03 |
| Moini | Or at least wrote he didn't have time for fixing the certificate just yet. | May 03 10:03 |
| doctormon | Mc: We thought we'd sorted out the cron job for the letsencrypt. | May 03 10:03 |
| Mc | should we start ? | May 03 10:04 |
| doctormon | Sure, are you presiding Marc? | May 03 10:04 |
| Mc | Let's try | May 03 10:04 |
| Mc | === Hackfest LGM 2019 === | May 03 10:04 |
| Mc | Anything left to do with the ticket ? | May 03 10:05 |
| Mc | also maybe we should send an email to all declared participants encouraging them to book as soon as possible if not already done | May 03 10:05 |
| Moini | Maybe send out a call for topics to work on, too? Aside from that, nothing from me. | May 03 10:06 |
| Moini | I think Tav wanted to contact remaining people to invite them. | May 03 10:06 |
| Moini | Oh, I heard back from Aude about the 'booth' today. | May 03 10:06 |
| Moini | We'll get a table, and will have WiFi and electricity. | May 03 10:07 |
| Mc | Great :) What about swag ? (banner, stickers ?) | May 03 10:07 |
| Moini | Banner is here, hackfest stickers are done. No idea about the normal stickers or the status of the note cards/business cards. | May 03 10:08 |
| Moini | And I also don't know what the status is with the State of Libre Graphics video. | May 03 10:08 |
| Mc | oh, right, I think CR was working on it ? | May 03 10:09 |
| Moini | Chris wanted to start with it last weekend. | May 03 10:09 |
| Moini | Haven't seen him since. | May 03 10:09 |
| Mc | ok | May 03 10:10 |
| Moini | Mc, will you bring a laptop that can be used at the booth? | May 03 10:10 |
| Moini | For demoing? | May 03 10:10 |
| Mc | I can, but all my laptops are overheating these days | May 03 10:10 |
| Moini | I don't even have one... | May 03 10:10 |
| Mc | (I plan to fix that on one before hackfest) | May 03 10:10 |
| Moini | Don't know about Mihaela. | May 03 10:11 |
| Mc | I have three that do xD | May 03 10:11 |
| Moini | lol | May 03 10:11 |
| Mc | CR will probably tell before the hackfest if anything is wrong on his end or if he needs help, I hope | May 03 10:11 |
| Moini | I'll ping him on the video issue to see what's up. | May 03 10:12 |
| Moini | I will soon need to pack up things to send to Saarbrücken. | May 03 10:12 |
| Tavmjong | I'm back... | May 03 10:12 |
| Tavmjong | I am almost certainly driving to LGM and can bring things. | May 03 10:12 |
| Mc | Tavmjong: tedg: (or anyone else interested): anything to add or to do on this topic ? | May 03 10:13 |
| tedg | Nope, I'm good. | May 03 10:13 |
| Moini | Tavmjong, that's good. | May 03 10:14 |
| Tavmjong | @Mc Not now. | May 03 10:14 |
| Mc | === GSoC === | May 03 10:14 |
| Mc | we can't say anything before may 6, 6pm | May 03 10:14 |
| Tavmjong | So this is a quick topic! | May 03 10:15 |
| Mc | === Budget === | May 03 10:15 |
| Moini | No bryce, no budget, I guess? | May 03 10:15 |
| Mc | there were two subtopics on this in the agenda: Referendum review & discussion and Vector team budget approval process | May 03 10:16 |
| Mc | but I don't know the specifics | May 03 10:16 |
| tedg | Perhaps we'll take care of them on the mailing list then. | May 03 10:16 |
| tedg | That probably makes more sense. | May 03 10:16 |
| Mc | Yeah, probably | May 03 10:16 |
| Mc | at this speed it will be a quick meeting :D | May 03 10:17 |
| tedg | \o/ | May 03 10:17 |
| Moini | Just thought the same. | May 03 10:17 |
| Mc | (not that it's a problem if the summary is "all is good, let's move on") | May 03 10:17 |
| Tavmjong | I wonder what our income will be this year... | May 03 10:17 |
| Mc | === Bug migration off Launchpad === | May 03 10:18 |
| Mc | 280 migrated, ~4000 to go :D | May 03 10:18 |
| tedg | Have we got an winners of the various awards? Are those working? | May 03 10:19 |
| Mc | I don't really know how to try to bring in more people (maybe a topic for Vectors) | May 03 10:19 |
| Moini | Michèle was planning to write a news article with updates, maybe that will get us a boost. | May 03 10:19 |
| Moini | There's no website article about it yet, due to missing coordination. | May 03 10:20 |
| ryangorley | There has been an active push on social media. We do need to discuss this as Vectors. | May 03 10:20 |
| Moini | Yep, tomorrow. | May 03 10:21 |
| Mc | ryangorley: anything to do for the board ? about swag ? other stuff ? | May 03 10:21 |
| ryangorley | Not that I am aware of. | May 03 10:21 |
| Moini | I think Bryce wanted to ask SFC about the swag amounts... | May 03 10:22 |
| tedg | I think he did, but not sure if he got a reply. | May 03 10:22 |
| tedg | SFC has been a bit slow to respond lately. | May 03 10:22 |
| Mc | I think the amount we were planning were fine by some margin | May 03 10:22 |
| tedg | I think so as well, but we were just verifying. | May 03 10:22 |
| ryangorley | SFC asked about some new sources for printing swag that will yield higher margins for the projects. I shared some info, but haven't heard anything. | May 03 10:23 |
| ryangorley | ^^ Just FYI. Hopefully we can eventually make more on sales. | May 03 10:23 |
| Mc | ok ^^ I think for now sponsors and individual donations are much higher sources ? | May 03 10:23 |
| Moini | Thanks, ryangorley! | May 03 10:23 |
| Mc | === Infrastructure === | May 03 10:24 |
| Mc | anyone knows about mailing lists ? ^^ | May 03 10:24 |
| Moini | I believe they were good to go. Just needed testing or something like that... | May 03 10:25 |
| Moini | Status overview: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/issues/6 | May 03 10:26 |
| doctormon | Maybe just need using I think. | May 03 10:26 |
| doctormon | Bryce has a plan for moving everything over in one go | May 03 10:26 |
| Moini | https://lists.inkscape.org/postorius/lists/ | May 03 10:26 |
| Moini | Just need to be loaded with the data, and moved (plus people informed, website updated etc.) | May 03 10:27 |
| doctormon | Yes | May 03 10:28 |
| doctormon | Hopefully we should make sure the Cert is good for the mailing list websites too | May 03 10:28 |
| Moini | Is there sth wrong with it? | May 03 10:28 |
| Moini | Ah, or do you mean the auto-renewal, as it failed for the rocket.chat currently? | May 03 10:29 |
| Mc | yeah | May 03 10:30 |
| Mc | Wiki ? | May 03 10:31 |
| doctormon | Yeah | May 03 10:31 |
| Moini | Issue: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/issues/31 | May 03 10:31 |
| Moini | At least for the https. | May 03 10:32 |
| Moini | Not for moving. | May 03 10:32 |
| Moini | Maybe it needs one? | May 03 10:32 |
| Moini | (issue, I mean) | May 03 10:32 |
| Mc | doctormon: what do we need to do exactly ? | May 03 10:33 |
| Mc | ah | May 03 10:34 |
| Moini | Mmmh. | May 03 10:34 |
| bryce | the mailing list uses letsencrypt too, but was set up differently from rocketchat | May 03 10:34 |
| bryce | i've only had time to peruse though, don't know what should be changed yet | May 03 10:35 |
| Tavmjong | @Mc You scared doctormon away! | May 03 10:35 |
| Moini | I think the Wiki needs moving from one server to another - from OSUOSL to one of our own, as far as I remember. | May 03 10:35 |
| Moini | And probably an update, and https, too. | May 03 10:35 |
| bryce | there isn't a cron job that I can tell, in either case, so may need some additional work to ensure renewals occur properly. Martin maybe you can share some wisdom on this later. | May 03 10:35 |
| Moini | Might be a larger task... | May 03 10:35 |
| bryce | Moini correct on all counts | May 03 10:36 |
| Mc | any ETA on it ? | May 03 10:36 |
| bryce | I took that task, but haven't started it yet except some prelim research. Not sure if I'll have time going forward but we'll see. | May 03 10:36 |
| bryce | for mailman3 I've done most of the testing I wanted to do, I think it's good to go. I need to do a fresh reimage and put out an announcement that the lists will be switching | May 03 10:37 |
| bryce | guessing we should give people a week or two before making the actual switch | May 03 10:37 |
| Mc | (last infra item is "weblate") | May 03 10:37 |
| bryce | mostly the 'switch' is just going to be syncing over the list archives | May 03 10:37 |
| bryce | I think the person working on weblate got uninvolved. I was going to re-ping | May 03 10:38 |
| Mc | what is weblate ? | May 03 10:38 |
| bryce | it's a translation service the translation team wants | May 03 10:39 |
| bryce | there was also a request recently for a new service for doing survey polling | May 03 10:39 |
| bryce | but maybe there's simpler solutions there, so not counting it as an infra todo just yet. | May 03 10:40 |
| Mc | ok | May 03 10:40 |
| bryce | oh one of the remaining items I wanted to get to for mailman3: | May 03 10:40 |
| bryce | sourceforge munges the email addresses for the downloaded mbox's, which means that hyperkitty can't look up people's gravatar images | May 03 10:41 |
| bryce | I was thinking I might try unmunging at least some of the addresses, so the archives didn't look so plain | May 03 10:41 |
| bryce | it's just cosmetic, but would have to be done at import time so it's now or never... | May 03 10:42 |
| Mc | I'm ok to switch now, if it works :p | May 03 10:42 |
| bryce | I might skip doing that if I'm just too short on time | May 03 10:42 |
| tedg | I'm not excited about that, but if you want to it'd be cool. | May 03 10:42 |
| Mc | there is relatively low activity these days | May 03 10:42 |
| *tedg checks to see if his gravatar is up-to-date ;-) | May 03 10:42 | |
| bryce | the gravatars should work properly for all new emails, just the old ones won't be associated with people properly | May 03 10:43 |
| bryce | that's all from me on infra for now | May 03 10:44 |
| Mc | ok | May 03 10:44 |
| Mc | === Software Release status === (2geom1.1, Inkscape .92.5, Inkscape 1.0~beta) | May 03 10:45 |
| Mc | I don't know about 2geom ? | May 03 10:45 |
| Mc | At which point should we separate its code from within Inkscape ? | May 03 10:46 |
| tedg | I need to step out. Ping me if you need something, I'll check back. | May 03 10:46 |
| *tedg waves | May 03 10:46 | |
| Mc | For Inkscape .92.5 I don't know what we want in it ( bryce ?) | May 03 10:47 |
| bryce | 2geom could use a point release at some point | May 03 10:47 |
| Mc | and For Inkscape 1.0-Beta I think we can have it anytime now | May 03 10:48 |
| ReneDH | IMHO the macOS version probably doesn't deserve being called beta (yet) | May 03 10:49 |
| Mc | But it's usable ? | May 03 10:49 |
| Tavmjong | We might wait for beta to after (or end of) hackfest. It might be useful to have a testing session there. | May 03 10:49 |
| Mc | (which is more than can be said for any macOS thing in a few years) | May 03 10:50 |
| ReneDH | I'd like to a have a very limited group of people testing it more thoroughly. The last two (but big) issues were all cases of things failing silently and me not having/spending a lot time on testing (yet). | May 03 10:50 |
| ReneDH | Because, for example, if 100 people complain about the text tool not working... | May 03 10:51 |
| Moini | ReneDH Do you know enough people who will be interested, or should we go and look for them actively? | May 03 10:51 |
| bryce | 0.92.x has some fixes that look ripe for doing 0.92.5. I don't know if there's more worth backporting, but it's fine with what's there now. | May 03 10:51 |
| Tavmjong | Text is one of the things I would like people to pound on. | May 03 10:51 |
| bryce | wish we had a Testing Team | May 03 10:52 |
| Moini | ReneDH How many do you think it would need? | May 03 10:52 |
| ReneDH | Moini I think I would ping people from the chat as well as the ones from recent issues to see if they are interested to get their hands dirty ;-) | May 03 10:52 |
| Moini | Yes, that's the same persons I was thinking of. I know someone one the forums who might like to try, too. | May 03 10:52 |
| Mc | we can also ask on twitter for people with a mac, there should be quite a lot of people willing to try it even without text | May 03 10:52 |
| bryce | a wiki page with "stuff to try out" might be a cheap way to drum up testing activities | May 03 10:53 |
| Moini | Text works now! | May 03 10:53 |
| ReneDH | TBH maybe 3 would be sufficient if they do a bit more than drawing two circles and a rectangle. I'd love some advanced user (I am *not* one myself) to try it | May 03 10:53 |
| bryce | s/drum up/focus/ | May 03 10:53 |
| Moini | (as far as I read) | May 03 10:53 |
| ReneDH | Yes, text was the last big one, just fixed it earlier this week. | May 03 10:54 |
| Moini | I will try too get Frank from the German forum to connect with you. | May 03 10:54 |
| Moini | Can I give him your email, or should I ask him to join the chat, if he would like to? | May 03 10:54 |
| ReneDH | You can give him my email, that's fine! | May 03 10:55 |
| Moini | (now let's hope I have it... lol...) | May 03 10:55 |
| Moini | Oh, Chris has replied on the content issue. | May 03 10:56 |
| Moini | Seems he's not aware of the meeting... :-/ | May 03 10:56 |
| Mc | I was hoping on rc0 at lgm, but if it's going to be -beta, so be it | May 03 10:57 |
| ReneDH | I'm not on RockeChat right now, I can PM you there later if don't have it. (or is there something like that on IRC?) | May 03 10:58 |
| Mc | there are pm on irc, yes | May 03 10:58 |
| Mc | === Fundraising === | May 03 10:58 |
| Mc | team, objectives ? | May 03 10:59 |
| Tavmjong | Mc, I'm not sure what your questions are about. | May 03 11:01 |
| Tavmjong | Are they about creating a team like Vectors but for fund raising? | May 03 11:02 |
| Mc | There was an agenda item for discussing the creation of a fundraising team, maybe with objectives | May 03 11:02 |
| Mc | I personnaly think it could be within vectors scope | May 03 11:02 |
| Tavmjong | Vectors has been doing a fantastic job but I wouldn't want to burn them out! | May 03 11:03 |
| Mc | we can ask them if they want it or separate it but imho outreach and fundraise are very close ? | May 03 11:04 |
| Mc | Moini: can this be a question for Vectors tomorrow ? | May 03 11:05 |
| ryangorley | I think Bryce was suggesting breaking it out. I'm fine keeping it all together. What we really need is someone who focuses on that primarily. | May 03 11:05 |
| ryangorley | IMHO | May 03 11:05 |
| Moini | Yep. | May 03 11:06 |
| Moini | Agree with Ryan. | May 03 11:06 |
| Mc | ok | May 03 11:06 |
| Mc | I suggest leaving this matter for now then | May 03 11:06 |
| Mc | === Other Business === | May 03 11:07 |
| Mc | tedg: Tavmjong: bryce: others: ? | May 03 11:07 |
| Tavmjong | Not from me! | May 03 11:07 |
| ReneDH | Maybe one thing: | May 03 11:08 |
| crogers | aaaaaaah! | May 03 11:09 |
| crogers | am I too late? | May 03 11:09 |
| ryangorley | Yes. You were just voted off the island. | May 03 11:09 |
| Mc | well, you arrive at the === Other Business === point, just before EOM | May 03 11:09 |
| ReneDH | I'm soon going to write up everything involved with macOS signing, which in turn brings spending money with it (and some other stuff...). Is that something to discuss with the whole board (like making an public or confidential issue)? | May 03 11:09 |
| crogers | Oh, well, that's good anyway. ;) | May 03 11:09 |
| Mc | ReneDH: everytthing can be public, but decisions involving money need board votes | May 03 11:10 |
| crogers | okay, I'll answer questions if proplr have them. | May 03 11:10 |
| crogers | or people | May 03 11:10 |
| ReneDH | Ok. I'll create an issue and ping it back to you guys once it's ready. | May 03 11:10 |
| Mc | ok | May 03 11:11 |
| Mc | == End of meeting == | May 03 11:12 |
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