bryce | @ ScislaC @ted tedg @ Tav @Mc @c.rogers @ doctormo Board meeting time :-) | Apr 05 09:59 |
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bryce_ | == Inkscape Board Meeting == | Apr 05 10:00 |
Tavmjong | Who's here? | Apr 05 10:00 |
ScislaC | Hello! | Apr 05 10:01 |
bryce | Agenda is at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings#Agenda | Apr 05 10:02 |
bryce | Hackfest Saarbrucken, and GSoC are the main agenda items, other stuff we'll get to as time permits. | Apr 05 10:03 |
bryce | I'd like to keep today's meeting to 1 hr if possible. | Apr 05 10:04 |
bryce | Let me know if any other agenda items are urgent, we'll weave them in. | Apr 05 10:04 |
bryce | ok, jumping right in: | Apr 05 10:04 |
bryce | === Hackfest LGM 2019 === | Apr 05 10:04 |
Mc | o/ | Apr 05 10:04 |
bryce | sounds like things are coming together ok for the hackfest? | Apr 05 10:05 |
Tavmjong | I think we are in good shape. We probably need to work a bit on the attendee list. | Apr 05 10:06 |
bryce | in the action items, looks like I still need to do a vote for the sticker purchases that @c.rogers is working on | Apr 05 10:06 |
bryce | I notice @ Moini has been pinging folks, but yes that should be nailed down ASAP especially for those coming via air. | Apr 05 10:06 |
bryce | @ Tav have you given thought to agenda items to focus on for the event? | Apr 05 10:07 |
*tedg is back, sorry lunch took longer. | Apr 05 10:07 | |
Moini | Yep, an official email to the mailing list would be good. We need to be a bit careful, though, to not get over 20. | Apr 05 10:07 |
Tavmjong | Release of 1.0 is the primary topic. More code clean-up. | Apr 05 10:08 |
Mc | focus on blockers and making sure user experience with the release is good | Apr 05 10:08 |
bryce | @ Moini what's your guess on attendance numbers at this point? | Apr 05 10:08 |
Moini | I need to look... | Apr 05 10:09 |
Tav | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2019_Saarbr%C3%BCcken_Attendees | Apr 05 10:09 |
bryce | thanks | Apr 05 10:09 |
bryce | so, 6 confirmed, another 8 as likely | Apr 05 10:09 |
bryce | ok, this is looking pretty solid | Apr 05 10:09 |
Moini | Yes. | Apr 05 10:09 |
Moini | Marc is confirmed, too, I assume. Just as Mihaela and Jürgen. | Apr 05 10:10 |
Mc | yeah | Apr 05 10:10 |
RdH | Once I get my first MR through the door, you can count me as confirmed as well. | Apr 05 10:11 |
Moini | I don't know how much time houz will have to attend, but he'll probably be there. | Apr 05 10:11 |
Mc | I won't cost much, btw, I will stay at my grandmother's place and will *try* to have my job pay for the train | Apr 05 10:11 |
Tavmjong | I am toying with driving, in which case, I could bring supplies. | Apr 05 10:12 |
Moini | Would be useful to have someone with a car there. | Apr 05 10:12 |
Moini | Up to now, nobody else seems to come by car. | Apr 05 10:13 |
Mc | I will probably have one (my grandma told me it would be possible) | Apr 05 10:13 |
Tavmjong | I'll need info about parking. | Apr 05 10:13 |
Moini | Best to ask houz, Tavmjong. | Apr 05 10:13 |
Moini | Alex said he'd know if he can attend by now. | Apr 05 10:16 |
Moini | Need to ping him again. | Apr 05 10:16 |
bryce | for the pasadena hackfest, we did a table of travelers to indicate arrival/departure times, etc. You guys might want to add similiar on this page | Apr 05 10:16 |
Moini | Yes, I'll set that up. | Apr 05 10:16 |
Moini | Been planning to anyway. | Apr 05 10:16 |
bryce | ok great | Apr 05 10:17 |
Moini | What about the individual reimbursements? Do they need an extra board vote? | Apr 05 10:17 |
bryce | I notice in the attendance page there's a note that booth staff can be discounted from the cap, does that mean if we have 3 booth staffers, we can go to 23, or am I misunderstanding? | Apr 05 10:17 |
Moini | On the third day, yes. | Apr 05 10:18 |
bryce | oh I understand | Apr 05 10:18 |
bryce | ACTION: Arrange board vote on individual attendee reimbursements for Hackfest Saarbrücken [bryce] | Apr 05 10:18 |
Tavmjong | I can send an official email to the list. I can also work on getting responses from people on our "People to Invite" list. | Apr 05 10:19 |
bryce | @ Tav thanks | Apr 05 10:19 |
bryce | ACTION: Send official email to list about hackfest [tav] | Apr 05 10:19 |
bryce | ACTION: Get responses from "People to Invite" list [tav] | Apr 05 10:20 |
Tavmjong | Board vote should probably include those on the Unconfirmed and Maybe lists. | Apr 05 10:21 |
Moini | Email to Alex sent. | Apr 05 10:21 |
bryce | how are things looking for the booth materials? I think I need to do a vote for the payment, and have a rough idea on amount, but wasn't sure if the plan is completely nailed down there yet? | Apr 05 10:21 |
bryce | @ Tav yeah was thinking similarly | Apr 05 10:21 |
Moini | Tavmjong, the list is almost completely grown from my ideas - if you know others the project would benefit from, don't hesitate to juggle around with the names. | Apr 05 10:22 |
Tavmjong | @Moini, looks like you did a great job with the list! | Apr 05 10:23 |
Moini | So, I've collected the images for stickers and banner from Ryan and Chris, and I'm currently working on getting the pictures ready for printing. | Apr 05 10:23 |
Moini | For the little cards, we don't have a picture yet. Chris has offered to work on it, but he's quite busy always. | Apr 05 10:24 |
Moini | The hackfest sticker picture is ready - Chris has made a really nice one. | Apr 05 10:24 |
Moini | I think he's going to order those. | Apr 05 10:25 |
Moini | Might as well order the others, too, but I haven't talked with him about it. | Apr 05 10:25 |
ScislaC | Be sure to ask @ doctormo for his recipe to marinate the stickers. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: jk | Apr 05 10:27 |
doctormo | Delicious | Apr 05 10:27 |
Moini | The gradient banding is an issue, btw., for the banner. | Apr 05 10:28 |
bryce | hah | Apr 05 10:28 |
Moini | At least on screen. Not sure if printed, too. | Apr 05 10:29 |
bryce | ugh, sorry I really wish I could put some time into getting that sorted | Apr 05 10:29 |
Moini | Lazur is helping to smooth out the image with some raster magic. | Apr 05 10:30 |
bryce | ok, I think I have enough info to do a vote at least, and get the funding recorded | Apr 05 10:30 |
Moini | Great :) | Apr 05 10:31 |
bryce | alright, any other plans or preparation worth discussing for the hackfest? | Apr 05 10:31 |
Mc | @bryce My friend has an almost-ready patch for it in pixman btw | Apr 05 10:31 |
Moini | :D | Apr 05 10:32 |
Tavmjong | We need more friends like that! | Apr 05 10:32 |
bryce | Mc that's great! :-) | Apr 05 10:32 |
Moini | Nothing from me, @bryce. | Apr 05 10:33 |
bryce | ACTION: Vote for hackfest booth materials, that Moini will be procuring [bryce] | Apr 05 10:33 |
Moini | And Chris. | Apr 05 10:33 |
ede123 | Mc: Do you have a link? | Apr 05 10:33 |
Moini | Please include him. | Apr 05 10:33 |
Moini | So we can split the orders as it makes most sense. | Apr 05 10:34 |
bryce | I actually have a separate action for sticker reimbursements for Chris, since he's been doing them for multiple events, but one way or another will ensure it gets covered | Apr 05 10:35 |
Moini | Okay :) | Apr 05 10:35 |
Mc | ede123: https://clement.pm/elarnon/tmp/pixman/pixpatch.tar.gz | Apr 05 10:35 |
Mc | ( build/run /demos/dither ) | Apr 05 10:35 |
Mc | @bryce ^ | Apr 05 10:36 |
bryce | @ Mc thanks, is he working with upstream on getting it accepted? | Apr 05 10:36 |
ede123 | Ah, I see, not published yet? | Apr 05 10:37 |
Mc | not yet | Apr 05 10:37 |
Mc | not sure what he still plans to work on | Apr 05 10:37 |
bryce | ah, still some WIP code in that | Apr 05 10:37 |
Mc | (the best dithering is the blue noise dithering) | Apr 05 10:38 |
ede123 | Did he have any feedback by pixman maintainers yet? Would be great if we could get this done for 1.0! | Apr 05 10:38 |
bryce | well give him kudos and encouragement from Inkscape :-) | Apr 05 10:38 |
bryce | ok, if nothing else on the hackfest, let's move on. | Apr 05 10:38 |
bryce | === GSoC === | Apr 05 10:39 |
bryce | @ Tav can you fill us in on how things are coming along? | Apr 05 10:39 |
Mc | two proposals are posted so far : [redacted] | Apr 05 10:40 |
Tav | [redacted] | Apr 05 10:41 |
ScislaC | Are there any others interested from the mailing list which look like they might come to fruition? | Apr 05 10:41 |
Mc | probably not | Apr 05 10:42 |
Tav | I agree with Mc | Apr 05 10:42 |
Mc | not sure about one | Apr 05 10:42 |
ScislaC | Agreed w/ @ Tav on proposal assessment. | Apr 05 10:42 |
Mc | [redacted] | Apr 05 10:43 |
bryce | are we guaranteed at this point to have at least 1 student? | Apr 05 10:43 |
Mc | we are never guaranteed, google gives the slots | Apr 05 10:43 |
ScislaC | @ bryce No guarantees... but I will request at least one slot at this point. | Apr 05 10:44 |
ScislaC | (obviously not now, but still) | Apr 05 10:44 |
Mc | but we should have one if we ask for one | Apr 05 10:44 |
Tav | I think we should ask for one. | Apr 05 10:44 |
bryce | with 1.0 coming up, we probably will be a bit averse to adding technical debt, so probably smart to be conservative in how many slots we take | Apr 05 10:45 |
Mc | we'll see, it's not completely impossible to have a good last-minute applicant | Apr 05 10:45 |
bryce | yeah | Apr 05 10:45 |
ScislaC | We do usually get proposals right up to the deadline... but if he haven't heard from others that are promising right now, they'll likely be spam. | Apr 05 10:46 |
bryce | hopefully 1.0 will be done by the summer, so if the students do their work in branches and land after 1.0 is released then there should be little to worry about | Apr 05 10:46 |
bryce | alright, GSoC sounds like it's coming along well | Apr 05 10:47 |
bryce | === Budget === | Apr 05 10:47 |
bryce | we discussed budget items last hackfest, and i have a partly done draft. Was hoping to have it ready to present here today, but $life stuff has been getting in the way. Apologies it's late. | Apr 05 10:48 |
bryce | but just wanted to ask if anyone had any additional items I should fold into it? | Apr 05 10:48 |
doctormo | Just to confirm bryce, do we still have $100 sticker allowence? | Apr 05 10:49 |
bryce | @ doctormo I believe so, but I took an action this meeting to doublecheck | Apr 05 10:51 |
doctormo | Considering the agenda, this is probably the right place to add: I talked with Gnome, FSF and a few others at LibrePlanet. We really want a more cohesive FOSS swag structure. The first idea was to document each organisation's contacts with manufacturers (including stickers etc) so we can pool information better. | Apr 05 10:52 |
bryce | SFC expressed an interest in similar, when I spoke with Bradley at SCALE | Apr 05 10:53 |
Mc | that would be really interesting | Apr 05 10:54 |
Moini | Yes! | Apr 05 10:54 |
Moini | Was there a cap for the hackfest in Saarbrücken? (was going to search through the emails, but maybe someone knows?) | Apr 05 10:55 |
Moini | The one I'm copying things from had 22000 as a max value. | Apr 05 10:56 |
doctormo | So a note for the future, I'll probably be asking different people in Inkscape to populate such a database with their contacts (I'm thinking of @c.rogers for example with his sticker maker) | Apr 05 10:57 |
bryce | in the referendum we had an assumption of 10 attendees at $2000 each, but didn't specify it as a "cap". We can revise that assumption now that we have some better numbers | Apr 05 10:59 |
Mc | I will attend a small free software event this weekend in Lyon(France), are there topics with some orgs that need discussions ? | Apr 05 10:59 |
bryce | Mc, funding and sponsorship advice would be nice | Apr 05 10:59 |
Mc | those I always discuss :D | Apr 05 11:00 |
bryce | :-) | Apr 05 11:00 |
bryce | ok, next agenda item would be the bug migration game | Apr 05 11:00 |
Mc | is it considered launched ? is it advertized ? | Apr 05 11:01 |
bryce | since we're missing chris I'll punt that to next meeting, but just want to say props to him and Terry for doing a great job, and I hope we can get a lot of people involved. | Apr 05 11:01 |
bryce | the bugs I've seen migrated across have been quite solid, and I hope the process helps in getting them resolved | Apr 05 11:01 |
Mc | is the "official" page the one on alpha.inkscape.org ? | Apr 05 11:01 |
bryce | yes | Apr 05 11:01 |
Mc | mh ok | Apr 05 11:02 |
Mc | a news item maybe ? | Apr 05 11:02 |
bryce | yes definitely | Apr 05 11:02 |
Mc | I think I will do a twitter post | Apr 05 11:02 |
doctormo | It needs bigging up and I think we need to advertise that it's open to non developers, because we don't see to have many people (even active people) who are non-devs trying it. | Apr 05 11:02 |
bryce | great | Apr 05 11:02 |
bryce | worth bringing up at tomorrow's vectors team meeting too | Apr 05 11:03 |
Mc | but I think the page lacks some details | Apr 05 11:03 |
Mc | for instance on how to test on alpha version | Apr 05 11:03 |
bryce | would be great to get their involvement in promotion | Apr 05 11:03 |
bryce | Mc, Terry Brown <terrynbrown@gmail.com> and C R <cajhne@gmail.com> can take feedback, and have been great at incorporating wording improvement suggestions | Apr 05 11:04 |
bryce | === Mailman3 === | Apr 05 11:05 |
bryce | I've been hammering on some bugs in the hyperkitty archive import scripts - issues with unicode in the list archives basically - but have them sorted. I'm going to do one final import test but I think we're otherwise good to go | Apr 05 11:06 |
bryce | I've notified a few lists that we'll be closing (notably the user-LN lists) | Apr 05 11:06 |
bryce | at some point I'll need to solicit people to help as moderators, but I can handle that duty for nwo | Apr 05 11:07 |
bryce | anyway, will post more on the list about this, as we move forward. | Apr 05 11:08 |
tedg | Woot! That's exciting! | Apr 05 11:08 |
bryce | == Other Business == | Apr 05 11:08 |
bryce | Anyone have any new opens? | Apr 05 11:08 |
bryce | Alright, well thanks all! | Apr 05 11:09 |
*tedg waves, thanks everyone! | Apr 05 11:09 | |
Mc | :) | Apr 05 11:09 |
bryce | == End of Meeting == | Apr 05 11:10 |
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