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June 20, 2019, 10:08:17 PM
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Hi,

I watched a few different "intro to inkscape" youtube tutorials.  I'm starting to get the basics down.  I did manage to make some hexes that are 1cm big on a map that is 2 meters by 2 meters, which should hold the size of the map that I need.  But if I could get that scaled down just two more levels, that would contain everything in one, but I'm starting small while I learn how things work. 

I made one hex in the middle and six around it.  I was in "Arrange" and then not "Rectangular Grids" but "Polar coordinates" and then into "rotational centers" and then "parameterized."  I was fluent in polar coordinates and I could solve parameterized equations quickly, and that was just five years ago.  I feel like something in there might be able to help me make a huge hex map.  My first map I'd like to have 2,476,117 hexes, which gives it a radius from the center hex of 909 hexes. 

I also found "Create Tiled Clones" and in the "symmetry" tab is an option for 60 degrees and 120 degrees, so I feel like that is also a good place to look. 

When I came back to this forum, I saw Brynn (sp?) lead me to the Symmetry Tab and Shift Tab, both of which had examples of hexes.  Especially the Shift: 

http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Tiles-Shift.html

I will read through these tomorrow.  But if there is a youtube video for that chapter/section, I'd appreciate the link.  I do better with an instructor than with a textbook. 

Thanks to all!
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June 21, 2019, 06:59:16 AM
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I don't think I have any more info now, than I posted in your previous message.  There may be a tutorial out there that will explain how to make the hexagon map, but I can't think of one.  I would have to search.  And of course, you could search as well.

I don't think I specifically suggested using Tiled Clones with the Y shaped path (that I showed in your other message), but that should work, once you figure out the values for the Shift tab.  And I'm sure you'll be able to find a video tutorial on using Tiled Clones dialog.

For your attempt at a 2 sq meter file of 1 cm hexagons, I would definitely make it with the Y path, rather than with hexagons.  Because with hexagons, every single edge of every single hexagon is doubled (except for the ones on the edges of the map).  And every node of each hexagon has the node of the next hexagon on top of it.  And file size is your enemy for this project.  So you will want to try and reduce bulk at every turn.

Hhmm.....well unless you want these hexagons to be filled with different colors.  If you want each hexagon to be filled with a different color, you'll have to use whole hexagons to construct the grid.  If you use the Y paths, they won't be distinct hexagons.  Each one would be part of the next.  So that part depends on your ultimate goal.

Although I suppose you could use Arrange dialog, and Polar Coordinates section.  I'm not familiar enough with it to vouch for its precision.  It may be perfectly precise, I've only just played with it a couple of times.  I definitely haven't seen any tutorials for that - although you might find instructions by searching the forum. 

I can vouch for precision with Tiled Clones dialog, as long as you have the proper values on the Shift tab.  And of course Snapping provides precision.  Personally, I could create such a map as quickly with manual snapping of hexagons, as with figuring out the values for the Shift tab of Tiled Clones dialog.  (That's because it only uses percent for units, so after you figure out the proper unit values, you have to convert to percent.)

Note that if you try to create the whole map at one click with Tiled Clones, it could take....geez....a few minutes or more, depending on your computer specs.  I think I explained about that part in your other message, that your computer specs will be the limiting factor, more than Inkscape.  If Inkscape crashes when you click Apply, you'll know you're asking it too much.

One thing I'm curious about.  Where will this map be viewed?  On a computer screen?  Or on a printed banner?  On something like a banner, I doubt that 1 cm hexagons will be visually identifiable.  I guess you'd have to get almost within arm's length to see that they aren't circles.
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June 21, 2019, 10:53:40 AM
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unless you want these hexagons to be filled with different colors.  If you want each hexagon to be filled with a different color, you'll have to use whole hexagons to construct the grid.

You answered my very next question!  :)  Yes, each hex will (potentially) have a different color (in different layers, too).  It will only be for on the computer, and maybe to print out a screen sized shot of some part of the map on rare occasion. 
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June 21, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
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I'll be curious to find out just how large you can make it, and compared with your system specs.  Users ask us similar questions to your original question (how large of a file is too large) a lot.  So it will be helpful to hear about it, even if it is just anecdotal.
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