Author Topic: Layers window only opens screensize  (Read 4282 times)

August 18, 2015, 12:53:08 AM
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Marion

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 Hi,

Ive just dowloaded inkscape for the 12th time since yesterday but i
> only get the Dutch version, i want the english version though, as all
> tuts are in english. Got PS and PSP all in english as well. Much
> easier when watching tuts.
>
> I spent hours playing with inkscape yesterday trying to get
> fill,layers,text etc. underneath each other (?hope you know what i
> mean as im sure this is not the correct way to describe...) but i
> could not. It went to the side somehow. And Layers comes up all the
> time filling the screen and not as a panel, thats no good.
> Is it normal that opening takes about a minute? The First few times i
> opent it i thought it wasnt working but than in opened 7 tyimes,
> hahahaha.
Marion :???:

August 18, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
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Hi Marion,
Welcome to Inkscape Community!  I'm glad to see you got logged in ok.

> only get the Dutch version, i want the english version though, as all
> tuts are in english.

You can either change Inkscape to English, or install 2 versions of Inkscape, and have one in each language.

To install a 2nd version, be sure to download the 7z version.  Then you can put it in a folder right next to the first one.  Don't put it in the same folder though.  That won't work, and might cause problems that are good not to have  :)

To change the language.  Edit menu > Inkscape Preferences > Interface > Language.  Then just choose the language you want from the dropdown menu.  You have to close Inkscape and reopen, to make it take effect.

> I spent hours playing with inkscape yesterday trying to get
> fill,layers,text etc. underneath each other (?hope you know what i
> mean as im sure this is not the correct way to describe...) but i
> could not. It went to the side somehow.

I think you're talking about the dialogs, in  the docking area, which is on the right side of the canvas.  Like this:

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There you can see that I have the Layers dialog and the Fill and Stroke dialog docked on the right.  Is that what you meant "underneath each other"?

You can also see that I don't have the Text and Font dialog docked.  That's just because I prefer it that way.  The Text dialog is so big, I find it hard to use when it's crammed into the dock area.  Plus it takes away from the canvas space.  You can undock any dialog, by grabbing the bar at the top (titlebar) and drag it away.

However, getting it docked again, if you need to, can be a little tricky.  It's also tricky to get the dialogs on top of each other, instead of side by side.  But I'll try and explain.

Here you can see the docs are side by side (which I find annoying, personally - although maybe it's just that I'm used to them being stacked).  And  I've added 2 dots and an arrow.

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Take your mouse and put it over the area where the red dot is.  Then click-drag in the direction of the yellow arrow, and stop when you get to the area of the  blue dot.  You might see some dotted lines shifting while you drag the mouse.  That's a good sign, and means it's working.  When you release the mouse, the dialog should jump over and they'll be stacked.

Now you'll have this:

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They're stacked up, but look at the area in the red rectangle.  You can only see one at a time -- there's no way to have both open at the same time!  (I have NO idea why they did this with the docking area!  It's unnecessarily difficult to manage, and for me, easily gets messed up, and I have to do this mouse dragging routine to fix it fairly often.  >:-( )

Anyway, repeat the same steps, by dragging the mouse in the area I showed in the 2nd screenshot.  Then both dialogs should show up, stacked up, and both showing at the same time.  Whenever you  open more than those 2 dialogs, you'll have to repeat the mouse dragging on those dialogs too.

And Layers comes up all the
> time filling the screen and not as a panel, thats no good.

That sounds like your Layers dialog has become undocked, and maybe maximized as well.  So, if you see this in the top, right corner of the dialog, with the middle button like this (in the red rectangle):

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Then click it, so that it looks like this: 

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That will make the window smaller.  If it's still covering up most of the window, you can now resize it by dragging the edges.  Make it smaller, like my Text dialog below. 

Now this is showing my Text dialog, but it works the same way for all the dialogs.  Grab your Layers dialog in the same place where the red dot is, and drag it over to where the blue dot is.  It might not seem like anything is happening, while you're dragging.  But when you release the mouse, the dialog will be docked.

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After it's docked, you might have to do the same dragging routine as before, to make them stacked up, and not side by side  :@@:

Is it normal that opening takes about a minute?

The first time after you install it, it might take a couple of minutes to open.  And even after that, it still might take 20 to 30 seconds to open.  I'm not sure why there's such a delay, but I've always wondered  :hmm:  Oh, and that's for opening a new blank document.  If you open a file directly, and it's a really large file (let's say over 5 mb), it could take a couple of minutes.  (The bigger the file, the longer it takes.  But the more RAM you have, the faster it goes.)
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August 18, 2015, 10:23:01 PM
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 :2tu:Hi Brynn, thanks so much for explaining! I managed to change the language to english which is much better for me as far as following video tuts.
I had the dialog windows changed as well but it took away a lot of space, as i cant make that space smaller (the arrows dont work there) i changed it back to the sidebar because it makes no difference as far as having more than 1 window open...but now the alligh window opens full screen hahahaha, not the layers but another one. I send you a screenshot. I cant make it smaller, not by clicking the icon for that and not the - icon either because it disappears all together . :b1:so..... :argh:

I hope i will be able to use this programm during this life! It seems easy but its not it seems..
I cant see the attachment in the preview, i hope it will be there in the post itself however.full screen allign.JPG
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August 18, 2015, 11:58:12 PM
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Ok, you see the area where I put a red rectangle.  It's right over the edge of the Align dialog window.  If you move your mouse slowly over the edge, you'll see that at a certain point, the arrow pointer turns into a 2-sided arrow.  While the 2-sided arrow is showing, press the mouse button and drag.

So that way, you can resize the window  yourself.  And actually, you can find that 2-sided arrow when the mouse is over any edge of that window.  I just circled that red rectangle area, because there's not much in that area, and it will be easier to see the 2-sided arrow.

Grag the edge of the window like that, and drag it inward as far as it will go.  It will stop by itself when it's the right size.  And then you'll need to grab the top or bottom edge too, and drag it inward as well.

Sometimes, on some windows, you can get a 2-sided arrow that's diagonal, when you put the mouse over the corner of the window.  Then you can move it both ways at the same time.  Some windows don't have the diagonal kind though, and I have no idea how it works for your system.

Then once it's a little smaller, you can dock it if you want.  Or leave it undocked.

Let me know if you got it fixed  :)
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August 19, 2015, 12:05:42 AM
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 :2tu:thanks, its ok now! So much to learn, but up till now everything you explained has worked so thats great, thanks!

August 19, 2015, 12:13:27 AM
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You're welcome  :D

Little by little, you will learn.  And you'll even learn how to solve problems on your own.  But it's always 1 step at a time  :)
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August 19, 2015, 12:22:11 AM
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i probably will, i had to learn everything about the computer myself without any classes or help and now-after a few years, i can solve al lot of problems myself by searching the internet for solutions, but its hard.
and im impatient, i always want to understand everything right away, knowing thats impossible. But i always try many times to see if i can find a solution for something before i ask for help because i feel soooo proud if i do, hahaha. For now im watching the inscape tuts and working along with them, these videos are great and not silent so much easier ..