| Tavmjong | *********** Inkscape Board Meeting ************* | Jul 06 10:00 |
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| Tavmjong | Who is here? | Jul 06 10:00 |
| *ryangorley waves | Jul 06 10:01 | |
| Tavmjong | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings | Jul 06 10:01 |
| Moini | Hi ryangorley! | Jul 06 10:01 |
| Tonya | Hi, Tonya is here! | Jul 06 10:02 |
| Mc | o/ | Jul 06 10:02 |
| ryangorley | Hey Moini et al | Jul 06 10:02 |
| vwmann | I am here! | Jul 06 10:02 |
| bryce | hi all | Jul 06 10:03 |
| bryce | == Inkscape Board meeting == | Jul 06 10:03 |
| Tavmjong | Ted said he might miss. | Jul 06 10:03 |
| cajhne | o/ | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | === Agenda === | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | File Edit Options Buffers Tools Text Help | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Kiel Hackfest | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** [[Hackfest2018 Kiel]] - Sun, 2018-09-09 until Thu, 2018-09-13 | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** Board sponsored dinner | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Future meetings/hackfests. | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** [http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/17x/ SCALE] - March 7th-10th, | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | 2019 (Pasadena, California) | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** [http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/ LGM 2019] - May 30th-June 3rd | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | (Saarbrucken, Germany) Proposed. (About two hours by train from | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | Paris.) | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Merchandise sales | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** Spreadshirt | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ** Evaluate self-serve merchandise sales - spreadshirt, cafepress, | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | Golden Ribbon, Think Penguin or similar [Mc] | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Outreachy: Next round starts in August | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | [https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/] | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Action Items | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | * Other Business | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | Jul 06 10:04 | |
| bryce | thanks all for coming! Great to see some new faces | Jul 06 10:04 |
| bryce | ping board members Mc, ScislaC, crogers, Tavmjong, tedg | Jul 06 10:05 |
| Mc | pong | Jul 06 10:05 |
| crogers | o/ | Jul 06 10:05 |
| ScislaC | Hello | Jul 06 10:06 |
| Tavmjong | o/ | Jul 06 10:06 |
| bryce | tedg planned absence noted, and doctormo appears absent | Jul 06 10:06 |
| bryce | ok, on to topics | Jul 06 10:06 |
| bryce | === Kiel Hackfest === | Jul 06 10:06 |
| bryce | preparations appear to be coming along nicely | Jul 06 10:07 |
| bryce | Moini, how are things going on your end? | Jul 06 10:07 |
| Moini | There's no new info. I think the next thing is to decide whether we want to ask for donations a second time this year or not. | Jul 06 10:08 |
| Moini | (for a news article) | Jul 06 10:08 |
| Tavmjong | How much did we get for the last hackfest? | Jul 06 10:08 |
| Moini | Oh, one small bit: we can have the larger room. It's not much larger, though. | Jul 06 10:09 |
| Mc | :) | Jul 06 10:09 |
| bryce | oh right I needed to respond to that. The answer is yes, and I now have a replacement tag for the paypal link | Jul 06 10:09 |
| Tavmjong | We don't really need tons of space from past experience. | Jul 06 10:09 |
| Moini | Tavmjong : oh, good :) | Jul 06 10:09 |
| Mc | we need electricity and internet :p | Jul 06 10:10 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, we always get good donations, I dont' remember the amount offhand but it was worth doing | Jul 06 10:10 |
| Tavmjong | Then I think we should ask again. | Jul 06 10:10 |
| *ryangorley noted for discussion at next Vectors meeting. | Jul 06 10:10 | |
| Tavmjong | The videos from the last hackfest seem to have generated a lot of interest. | Jul 06 10:11 |
| Moini | Mc : it's more about the space one needs for the devices - I'm imagining if someone brings a larger monitor... | Jul 06 10:11 |
| Mc | usually people only bring laptops | Jul 06 10:11 |
| Moini | ... we also have a couple of those there (old ones) | Jul 06 10:11 |
| Moini | monitors, I mean. | Jul 06 10:11 |
| bryce | there's sufficient funding to cover all attendees, so there is zero worry about having enough funding. However it is good if each hackfest can raise at least what they cost, so our cashflow is balanced for having future events | Jul 06 10:11 |
| ScislaC | "old ones" = CRTs? | Jul 06 10:12 |
| Moini | Not that old :) (but we could probably arrange one or two, lol...) | Jul 06 10:12 |
| vwmann | if someone could record (video) the next Hackfest that would make a WORLD of difference. This sparks a lot of interest... | Jul 06 10:12 |
| Moini | I was hoping crogers could help us with that. | Jul 06 10:13 |
| Mc | bryce: how unbalanced is it ? | Jul 06 10:13 |
| Moini | We would be able to supply a camera. | Jul 06 10:13 |
| crogers | Sure, can do video. | Jul 06 10:13 |
| bryce | Mc, we've been doing great | Jul 06 10:13 |
| Mc | cool | Jul 06 10:14 |
| crogers | Can also put some postproduction into it, make it look official. | Jul 06 10:14 |
| Moini | crogers that would be really cool :) | Jul 06 10:14 |
| vwmann | That would be really cool indeed :) | Jul 06 10:14 |
| crogers | Been doing it a lot for work in these, the last few months of work. I think the boss is trying to squeeze the most cost/benefit out of me before August. | Jul 06 10:15 |
| ryangorley | crogers, let's make sure you have access to the YouTube channel prior to the event so you can upload those videos directly. | Jul 06 10:15 |
| crogers | Sure. | Jul 06 10:15 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, did you see the email with bradley regarding your concerns from the funding vote? Can you follow up with him directly on your thoughts? Maren raised similar issues so I think it is good to make them aware. | Jul 06 10:15 |
| crogers | Did we get any feedback on what people like in the videos of the last hackfest? | Jul 06 10:16 |
| Tavmjong | I'm not really sure that is an issue for SFC. It is more for us. | Jul 06 10:16 |
| Moini | ... and let us here know whether you'd like to use our video camera (don't know the model right now, but it would save you some baggage) | Jul 06 10:16 |
| bryce | Moini, have you noticed changes in the attendance list so far? If there's others that need approval added let me know and we can do another vote | Jul 06 10:16 |
| Tavmjong | ... unless I missed an email in the middle. | Jul 06 10:16 |
| Moini | bryce, just Alex has added himself. | Jul 06 10:17 |
| Tavmjong | We should probably do one more general announcement on inkscape-devel. | Jul 06 10:17 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, ok well I don't see it as that much of a problem for us - just the extra paperwork of running another vote | Jul 06 10:17 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, Moini, can one or both of you do that announcement? | Jul 06 10:18 |
| Tavmjong | I can do it. | Jul 06 10:18 |
| Mc | I don't think we will go out of budget with alex, the travel within europe will probably be not very expensive | Jul 06 10:18 |
| Moini | Tavmjong, yes, I agree. We have space for up to 14 now. | Jul 06 10:19 |
| bryce | yeah Alex should be no problem | Jul 06 10:19 |
| Tavmjong | Mc, The problem is that our vote listed specific names so if we add others, we need a new vote. | Jul 06 10:19 |
| bryce | if we have a few more people I can roll all of them together in a new vote, that'll be a bit more convenient | Jul 06 10:19 |
| Moini | Does anyone here already know for certain if they'll be able to attend? | Jul 06 10:20 |
| bryce | doctormo can be listed as confirmed; he's already got flights arranged | Jul 06 10:20 |
| Tavmjong | I'm 99% sure. | Jul 06 10:20 |
| crogers | I'm about 90% sure. | Jul 06 10:21 |
| *Mc needs to declare his days off | Jul 06 10:21 | |
| Mc | (should be no problem) | Jul 06 10:21 |
| Moini | That's 5, currently. | Jul 06 10:21 |
| Moini | prkos - do you already know more? | Jul 06 10:21 |
| crogers | Just to confirm, these are the dates: Sun, 2018-09-09 until Thu, 2018-09-13 | Jul 06 10:22 |
| Moini | crogers, yes, that's correct. | Jul 06 10:22 |
| Moini | On Friday, the rooms are blocked by Kielux. | Jul 06 10:22 |
| Moini | So to make it 5 days, it already starts on Sunday. Which is a bit uncommon. | Jul 06 10:23 |
| Tavmjong | Anything else on this topic? | Jul 06 10:25 |
| bryce | oh one other item | Jul 06 10:26 |
| crogers | Additionally, I'll bring the coffee machine. | Jul 06 10:26 |
| bryce | for the board sponsored dinner, would one of the board members be able to handle the payment+reimbursement? | Jul 06 10:26 |
| Mc | I can | Jul 06 10:26 |
| bryce | Mc, excellent, thanks | Jul 06 10:27 |
| Moini | crogers :) Good. Then people won't *have to* drink the Kitz coffee. Some say it tastes strange. I'm not a coffee drinker ;-) | Jul 06 10:27 |
| crogers | I also have a small projector, some LED photography light panels, a DSLR, and a pocket camera. Both cameras can do video. | Jul 06 10:27 |
| Moini | Thank you, Mc! | Jul 06 10:27 |
| bryce | ok, moving on | Jul 06 10:27 |
| Moini | We also have lighting, crogers. | Jul 06 10:27 |
| bryce | === Future meetings/hackfests === | Jul 06 10:27 |
| crogers | And I have teh bose speakers with a dual bluetooth transmitter for quiet background ambience music. | Jul 06 10:28 |
| Mc | crogers: yay | Jul 06 10:28 |
| bryce | SCALE | Jul 06 10:28 |
| bryce | we have one action item to review on scale | Jul 06 10:28 |
| bryce | ♢ ACTION: Check into pre/post SCALE meeting options & AirBNB [tedg, scislac] | Jul 06 10:28 |
| crogers | Moini: cool. I'll leave my panes at home then. | Jul 06 10:28 |
| crogers | panels | Jul 06 10:28 |
| bryce | ScislaC, did you and ted get a chance to put some thought into that? | Jul 06 10:29 |
| ScislaC | I have not, yet. But will put a reminder for myself on Monday to start looking into it. | Jul 06 10:30 |
| bryce | great thanks | Jul 06 10:30 |
| bryce | LGM | Jul 06 10:30 |
| bryce | this is in May next year so tons of time for planning, but anything we need to start thinking about? | Jul 06 10:30 |
| Mc | I'm almost sure I'll go | Jul 06 10:30 |
| bryce | that's in Saarbrucken, Germany | Jul 06 10:30 |
| Tavmjong | I'll go to. | Jul 06 10:31 |
| Tavmjong | It's right on the France/Germany border. | Jul 06 10:31 |
| bryce | do we have a wiki page set up for it? maybe that'd be a good step for now | Jul 06 10:31 |
| ryangorley | w00t for a SCALE hackfest btw | Jul 06 10:31 |
| bryce | a wiki page for SCALE would make sense too | Jul 06 10:32 |
| bryce | ACTION: Check into pre/post SCALE meeting options & AirBNB [tedg, scislac] | Jul 06 10:32 |
| Tavmjong | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2019_Saarbr%C3%BCcken | Jul 06 10:32 |
| bryce | ACTION: Arrange additional Kiel hackfest attendance vote [bryce] | Jul 06 10:32 |
| bryce | ACTION: (Re-)Announce Kiel hackfest on inkscape-devel@ [Tav] | Jul 06 10:33 |
| bryce | ACTION: Kiel hackfest donation request news article [Moini, Ryangorley] | Jul 06 10:34 |
| bryce | ACTION: Let folks know the new paypal tag for hackfests [bryce] | Jul 06 10:34 |
| Mc | so anyone know if a gsoc org can send people to mentorsummmit if it had noi student that year ? | Jul 06 10:34 |
| Mc | s/so/do/ | Jul 06 10:34 |
| Tavmjong | Mc, Good question. | Jul 06 10:34 |
| bryce | ACTION: Set up wiki page for SCALE hackfest | Jul 06 10:35 |
| bryce | any other actions I've missed? | Jul 06 10:36 |
| ryangorley | Do we have any idea yet about what individuals will be focusing on during this hackfest? (I can follow up after the meeting with someone) | Jul 06 10:36 |
| crogers | For me it's probably video. lol | Jul 06 10:36 |
| bryce | ACTION: Plan video for Kiel hackfest [crogers] | Jul 06 10:36 |
| bryce | got it | Jul 06 10:36 |
| bryce | ryangorley, there was some discussion on the list, I don't know if any definitive decisions were reached | Jul 06 10:36 |
| vwmann | Inkscape icons/interface/UI :) | Jul 06 10:36 |
| bryce | timing-wise, efforts invested into finalizing 1.0 would probably help the project the most | Jul 06 10:37 |
| crogers | But I'd like to get some more time with Tav to correct some issues with the text systems and persistent problems with line spacing. | Jul 06 10:37 |
| bryce | reviewing/fixing/testing bugs, preparing release announcement collateral, etc. | Jul 06 10:37 |
| ryangorley | I'll put an email out to the list then. Don't mean to distract from the meeting. | Jul 06 10:37 |
| bryce | discussion about recruitment of new devs would help the project a lot right now too | Jul 06 10:38 |
| crogers | Yea, so I'll also make a list of things I think should be fixed for the 1.0 release. | Jul 06 10:38 |
| Mc | please do | Jul 06 10:38 |
| bryce | crogers, that'd be great | Jul 06 10:38 |
| crogers | Maybe it would be good for everyone to do that actually. :) | Jul 06 10:38 |
| bryce | agreed | Jul 06 10:39 |
| crogers | Then we can all compare notes. | Jul 06 10:39 |
| bryce | I know we have http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/GTK%2B_3_issues - which would be good to keep updated as progress continues | Jul 06 10:39 |
| bryce | but would be helpful to know non-Gtk3 issues too | Jul 06 10:39 |
| Mc | we don't have many gtk3-induced errors left | Jul 06 10:39 |
| crogers | Yea, I haven't noticed many. | Jul 06 10:39 |
| crogers | in production work. | Jul 06 10:39 |
| Mc | we have inconstitencies, deprecation warnings, and gtk2-style code | Jul 06 10:40 |
| Tavmjong | We do have a major problem with dockable dialogs under Wayland. | Jul 06 10:40 |
| Moini | recently master takes very long to show the correct page borders. | Jul 06 10:40 |
| bryce | Mc, that's great. If you have some time to jot down current status at the end of that page, it'd help for reference | Jul 06 10:40 |
| Moini | On a newly opened document. | Jul 06 10:40 |
| bryce | crogers, are you thinking of putting your list into wiki? or tagged gitlab bugs? or...? | Jul 06 10:40 |
| crogers | I can. Though I'd rather get some feedback on it first. | Jul 06 10:41 |
| crogers | Because a wiki looks like me demanding things. lol | Jul 06 10:41 |
| bryce | heh | Jul 06 10:41 |
| crogers | And I don't want it to come across like that. | Jul 06 10:41 |
| bryce | certainly, and we want to avoid getting blocked, as has happened in the past, waiting for things to get fixed... | Jul 06 10:42 |
| bryce | crogers, mainly I'm just curious where I should be keeping my eye out for your list | Jul 06 10:42 |
| crogers | Yea... though it might be a good idea to postpone if necessary. | Jul 06 10:42 |
| crogers | I think that should be an option. It's great to have a 1.0 release, but a rushed release is a bad release. | Jul 06 10:43 |
| crogers | (probably) :) | Jul 06 10:43 |
| bryce | don't know anyone can accusing us of "rushing" 1.0 at this point, we've been working towards it for 15 years ;-) | Jul 06 10:44 |
| Mc | I'm in favour of a long 1.0Beta test period | Jul 06 10:44 |
| *crogers nods | Jul 06 10:44 | |
| Moini | yep. | Jul 06 10:44 |
| crogers | Sure. Sounds good to me. | Jul 06 10:45 |
| Mc | (and will also allw to put UI/UX designers to work during this period) | Jul 06 10:45 |
| Moini | Maybe recruiting better testers from a larger pool than usually. | Jul 06 10:45 |
| bryce | I think the most important thing is having developer names associated with the bug ownership | Jul 06 10:45 |
| Moini | beta, lol, not better. | Jul 06 10:45 |
| crogers | yea, was gonna say. ;) | Jul 06 10:45 |
| crogers | lol | Jul 06 10:45 |
| Mc | Moini: My thinking would be to "release" 1.0beta just like recent versions like 0.92 | Jul 06 10:46 |
| Mc | bryce: yeah but for that we would probably need a good reporting workflow and triaging | Jul 06 10:46 |
| crogers | Yea, it doesn't need to be flawless, but I think we should treat this like a commercial release of software we were going to sell to people. | Jul 06 10:46 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, speaking of 1.0 qa, would you mind checking in with people on how they're doing with the test case conversion tasks? | Jul 06 10:47 |
| crogers | I have some probably unpopular ideas. ;/ | Jul 06 10:47 |
| Tavmjong | Sure... | Jul 06 10:47 |
| Moini | Mc a bit like Gimp did it? | Jul 06 10:47 |
| Moini | Their beta was in the news. Because it was so extraordinary, and so useful. | Jul 06 10:47 |
| Mc | maybe, yes | Jul 06 10:48 |
| bryce | Mc, yeah, instead we'll need to cobble something together manually I guess | Jul 06 10:49 |
| crogers | There's a lot of clean up work that could be done. Some filters should be removed because they produce terrible results. | Jul 06 10:49 |
| Moini | crogers maybe rather moved out to some extra download. There are people who are going to miss even the ugliest ones dearly... | Jul 06 10:50 |
| Moini | (not that I would) | Jul 06 10:50 |
| crogers | yes, that's why it's going to be unpopular. | Jul 06 10:50 |
| Mc | Moini: yup | Jul 06 10:51 |
| crogers | But it's embarassing, because things like bevels produce absolutely appalling results | Jul 06 10:51 |
| bryce | ACTION: Check in with people doing test case conversion [Tav] | Jul 06 10:51 |
| crogers | Since we have mesh gradients, many of these could be re-written to make use of them. | Jul 06 10:52 |
| bryce | ACTION: Set up wiki page for collecting ideas of things worth getting fixed for 1.0 [crogers] | Jul 06 10:52 |
| bryce | on the topic of releases, 0.92.4 is probably next in the queue... would be worth getting more items CP'd from master, and to polish up the release notes | Jul 06 10:53 |
| bryce | https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bugs?field.tag=backport-proposed | Jul 06 10:54 |
| crogers | One of my suggestions is going to be that anything that produces objectively bad results be either re-written or excluded. I'll include that in the list, along with some of the worst offenders. :) | Jul 06 10:54 |
| bryce | Mc, would you mind taking a look at the above link and seeing if any items should be scrubbed, and land ones that look good to go? | Jul 06 10:55 |
| Mc | I can try that, yeah | Jul 06 10:56 |
| bryce | I'm going to be out of town for work for part of July, so thinking 0.92.4 release kickoff maybe early August. If the release notes are in good shape, I doubt it'll take too long. | Jul 06 10:57 |
| bryce | main task for me is getting my gpg keys updated, release scripts updated, and re-signing all the past releases | Jul 06 10:58 |
| bryce | ok, if nothing else on releases, next topic | Jul 06 10:58 |
| Mc | bryce: will you remove autotools ? | Jul 06 10:58 |
| Mc | (I think we should, to check that packagers transitionned to cmake) | Jul 06 10:59 |
| bryce | Mc, for 0.92.x I'm planning to leave them present but not use them for generating the release | Jul 06 10:59 |
| Mc | so that packagers will be ready | Jul 06 10:59 |
| bryce | hmm, that's a thought, but I'm not sure it's worth making the trouble for them | Jul 06 11:00 |
| Mc | bryce: also, don't forget to put the correct version string in AC_ :p | Jul 06 11:00 |
| bryce | we'll have 1.0alpha to give pressure for any who haven't migrated to do so | Jul 06 11:00 |
| bryce | Mc, I'll try not to forget | Jul 06 11:00 |
| Mc | ^^ | Jul 06 11:00 |
| *ryangorley notes early August release for 0.92.4 announcment | Jul 06 11:00 | |
| bryce | ACTION: Remember to put correct version string in AC_ for 0.92.4 [bryce] | Jul 06 11:00 |
| bryce | ACTION: Kickoff 0.92.4 release in early August [bryce] | Jul 06 11:01 |
| Mc | (I'll be away the second half of july) | Jul 06 11:01 |
| bryce | Mc, I'll be in South Korea. Supposedly the humidity+heat that time of year is murder. If you don't hear from me in August you know what happened. | Jul 06 11:02 |
| Mc | :'( | Jul 06 11:02 |
| bryce | === Merchandise Sales === | Jul 06 11:02 |
| Mc | doctormon is not here :p | Jul 06 11:02 |
| bryce | crogers, you were looking at getting spreadshirt finished? any update on that? | Jul 06 11:03 |
| bryce | also, anyone done any legwork so far on figuring out alternative merchandise sites worth getting set up? | Jul 06 11:04 |
| Mc | what are other SFC projects using ? | Jul 06 11:04 |
| Mc | (maybe something to ask karen ?) | Jul 06 11:04 |
| crogers | Yea, so I sent out a sheet of samples. | Jul 06 11:05 |
| crogers | spreadshirt universal designs that work okay on both black and white. | Jul 06 11:06 |
| crogers | for those that missed it: https://inkscape.org/en/~C.Rogers/%E2%98%85inkscape-logo-universal-white-and-black-design-options | Jul 06 11:06 |
| crogers | sent out an email to the developer list asking for votes on which people liked best. | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | The results as of this week are: | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | 1111 | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | 222 | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | 33 | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | 4444 | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | 55 | Jul 06 11:07 |
| crogers | so design 1 and design 4 are the current winners by not a landslide. :) | Jul 06 11:08 |
| crogers | was hoping to get a few more votes, but well, there you go. :) | Jul 06 11:08 |
| bryce | do you need to pick between 1 and 4 or are two winners ok? | Jul 06 11:09 |
| crogers | Yes, like the Highlander, there can be only one. | Jul 06 11:09 |
| crogers | Because spreadshirt will plaster the site with unlimited options for each design. | Jul 06 11:10 |
| Mc | did I vote ? | Jul 06 11:10 |
| crogers | There's no decent way to control it. It's a terrible mess. :) | Jul 06 11:10 |
| bryce | Mc, there is a mailing list set up with sfc to discuss merchandising but last I checked there's been no traffic in a few years, and there was no consensus achieved. I don't believe SFC has established a standard service here. | Jul 06 11:11 |
| crogers | Mc doesn't look like it. | Jul 06 11:11 |
| crogers | But you can. :) | Jul 06 11:11 |
| Mc | crogers: 1 | Jul 06 11:12 |
| crogers | Wanna tiebreak it? | Jul 06 11:12 |
| crogers | Awesome. | Jul 06 11:12 |
| crogers | That's the one I would have picked. | Jul 06 11:12 |
| *Mc feels the power to choose the final decision all by himself | Jul 06 11:12 | |
| *bryce still thinks #3 is going to give the best printing results but is ok being outvoted ;-) | Jul 06 11:12 | |
| crogers | bryce: Yea, you might be right. | Jul 06 11:13 |
| bryce | crogers, ok are you unblocked for next steps towards getting the site launched? | Jul 06 11:13 |
| crogers | Yea, now that there's a winner. | Jul 06 11:13 |
| bryce | alright, anything else on merchandising? | Jul 06 11:13 |
| crogers | However, someone should order one so we can see if it sucks or not. :) | Jul 06 11:13 |
| Mc | I'll do that | Jul 06 11:15 |
| bryce | btw - for anyone reading the log -- if anyone thinks we should be looking at different merchandising sites and you're willing to put leg work in on research + experimentation, and can present us with a plan, please do | Jul 06 11:15 |
| bryce | ACTION: Finalize spreadshirt for launch [crogers] | Jul 06 11:15 |
| bryce | ACTION: Finalize spreadshirt for launch [crogers, Mc] | Jul 06 11:15 |
| Mc | crogers: just point me to the store when all is left is to buy stuff | Jul 06 11:15 |
| bryce | === Outreachy === | Jul 06 11:15 |
| crogers | Mc: cool, I'll send you a link when it's set up. The acid test will be the black shirt. | Jul 06 11:15 |
| bryce | I've connected people for getting outreachy up and going, but haven't heard any status recently | Jul 06 11:16 |
| bryce | sounds like we might be able to secure external funding | Jul 06 11:17 |
| Mc | what is needed on our end ? | Jul 06 11:17 |
| Mc | cool !! | Jul 06 11:17 |
| bryce | just a mentor, and we have one mentor/student pair identified, although it's not committed/registered yet so may be premature to discuss | Jul 06 11:17 |
| Mc | mentor depends on project | Jul 06 11:17 |
| bryce | additional mentor+student+project tuples would be well worth collecting | Jul 06 11:18 |
| bryce | if anyone knows anyone, let me know | Jul 06 11:18 |
| bryce | ok, onward agenda items | Jul 06 11:18 |
| bryce | === Action Items === | Jul 06 11:18 |
| bryce | Looks like we've covered most of them, a few remaining though | Jul 06 11:19 |
| bryce | ACTION: ping jimmac about the symbolic icons for adding the theme to Inkscape [scislac] | Jul 06 11:19 |
| bryce | oh looks like we lost scislac | Jul 06 11:19 |
| bryce | ♢ ACTION: Plan video for Inkscape 1.0 release [assignee needed] | Jul 06 11:19 |
| Mc | crogers: ^ | Jul 06 11:19 |
| bryce | ok | Jul 06 11:19 |
| crogers | Yea, I'll do the video. | Jul 06 11:20 |
| bryce | are there any additional action items to add to the list? Anything I missed from this meeting? | Jul 06 11:20 |
| crogers | video video video. :) | Jul 06 11:20 |
| bryce | :-D | Jul 06 11:20 |
| vwmann | Maybe we could use kdenlive to do the video. I have been using in my work place and it is great. | Jul 06 11:20 |
| crogers | I use Blender. | Jul 06 11:21 |
| vwmann | Woa! | Jul 06 11:21 |
| vwmann | Even better. lol | Jul 06 11:21 |
| crogers | https://www.dropbox.com/s/c6qlf0t2a4wnrpg/ramos_gin_fizz_cocktail.mp4?dl=1 | Jul 06 11:22 |
| crogers | (135MB) | Jul 06 11:22 |
| ryangorley | vwmann: Blender is awkward but stable. Kdenlive just refactored though. | Jul 06 11:22 |
| crogers | That's the latest project I've done. Shot with my dslr, and those light panels at half brightness. Caption animations compositing and vse done in blender. | Jul 06 11:23 |
| crogers | kdenlive is good, but has a cumbersome interface when you already know the hotkeys in Blender. | Jul 06 11:23 |
| vwmann | @ryan yeah. You are probably right. Too unstable for now... | Jul 06 11:23 |
| Mc | dunno, heard good things about the new version at lgm | Jul 06 11:24 |
| crogers | I used it recently. Latest version. It is better. | Jul 06 11:24 |
| crogers | But you still have to do things like manually adjust speed of clips. | Jul 06 11:25 |
| crogers | And fade transitions are still awkward to add and use properly. | Jul 06 11:25 |
| crogers | But | Jul 06 11:26 |
| crogers | Now it actually outputs video! | Jul 06 11:26 |
| crogers | And it does that easily! | Jul 06 11:26 |
| bryce | this will be great to see, looking forward to it. :-) | Jul 06 11:26 |
| bryce | === Other Business === | Jul 06 11:26 |
| crogers | If I were to recommend a vse to someone, it would be kdenlive. | Jul 06 11:26 |
| bryce | Anyone have other items to discuss before we close? | Jul 06 11:27 |
| crogers | but for advanced video editing with hundreds of clips and effects, yea, I gotta go with Blender. :) | Jul 06 11:27 |
| Mc | bryce: I think we are good | Jul 06 11:27 |
| Tavmjong | bryce, No. | Jul 06 11:27 |
| crogers | I'm good. :) | Jul 06 11:27 |
| bryce | great, thanks all! | Jul 06 11:27 |
| bryce | == End of Meeting == | Jul 06 11:27 |
| crogers | np. | Jul 06 11:28 |
| vwmann | Have a wonderful weekend everyone! | Jul 06 11:28 |
| crogers | You too! | Jul 06 11:28 |
| Mc | same ! | Jul 06 11:28 |
| Moini | Same! | Jul 06 11:28 |
| Tavmjong | Bye all. | Jul 06 11:28 |
| crogers | o/ | Jul 06 11:28 |
| *ryangorley waves | Jul 06 11:28 | |
| crogers | anyone know where they are staying in Kiel? | Jul 06 11:38 |
| crogers | Flight doesn't seem to be an issue at £65 for a return flight. lol | Jul 06 11:39 |
| crogers | Think I pay more taking a train to Brighton. | Jul 06 11:39 |
| Mc | or a eurostar | Jul 06 11:40 |
| Mc | (any eurostar) | Jul 06 11:40 |
| Moini | crogers At home :) | Jul 06 11:43 |
| Moini | I had expected more offers from our local hackers. No new ones have come in. | Jul 06 11:44 |
| crogers | There seem to be some decent deals around town. | Jul 06 11:53 |
| crogers | For hotels. | Jul 06 11:53 |
| crogers | But anyway, I've booked my plane tickets, so I guess my 90% is about 99% now | Jul 06 11:54 |
| crogers | For that price I fully expect them to hand me a propeller and tell me to spin. | Jul 06 11:55 |
| Moini | Woohoo :) I hope they'll give you a proper seat :) | Jul 06 11:56 |
| Mc | American Airlines -like service | Jul 06 11:56 |
| Mc | err, it was United | Jul 06 11:57 |
| Moini | SFC hasn't asked for any email addresses yet, btw. I'll let you know when they do. | Jul 06 11:58 |
| Moini | crogers, there are nice places in Kiel - just make sure you can get to the Kitz from there. If it's on the eastern shore ('Ostufer'), then it's a long commute. | Jul 06 12:00 |
| Moini | (the youth hostel is technically on the Ostufer, too, but close to the end of the bay, and there's a bridge. | Jul 06 12:02 |
| Moini | Bye! | Jul 06 12:03 |
| doctormon | bryce: Sorry I missed the meeting. In UK and everything, just not on my radar. It's the first Friday of each month right? | Jul 06 12:36 |
| Mc | right | Jul 06 12:36 |
| Mc | msg chanserv topic #inkscape-devel www.inkscape.org || Draw freely! || Development discussion channel || Next board meeting: `date -d 'TZ="America/Los_Angeles" 10:00 Fri Aug 3 2018'` | Jul 06 12:37 |
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| doctormon | ThanksMc | Jul 06 12:39 |
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