| Mc | board meeting in 55 minutes | Aug 03 09:04 |
|---|---|---|
| Tavmjong | I will be at the meeting but will have to leave a few minutes early. | Aug 03 09:04 |
| bryyce | Meeting in 5 min | Aug 03 09:55 |
| Mc | I hope there will be enough people to vote the +2 people to hackfest directly | Aug 03 09:57 |
| Tavmjong | *********** Board Meeting ************ | Aug 03 10:00 |
| Tavmjong | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings | Aug 03 10:00 |
| Tavmjong | Who is here? | Aug 03 10:00 |
| bryyce | *wave* | Aug 03 10:00 |
| *tedg waves | Aug 03 10:00 | |
| Tavmjong | crogers? | Aug 03 10:01 |
| Mc | o/ | Aug 03 10:01 |
| bryyce | * Kiel Hackfest | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ** [[Hackfest2018 Kiel]] - Sun, 2018-09-09 until Thu, 2018-09-13 | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | * Future meetings/hackfests. | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ** [http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/17x/ SCALE] - March 7th-10th, | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | 2019 (Pasadena, California) | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ** [http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/ LGM 2019] - May 30th-June 3rd | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | (Saarbrucken, Germany) Proposed. (About two hours by train from | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | Paris.) | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | * Merchandise sales | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ** Spreadshirt | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ** Evaluate self-serve merchandise sales - spreadshirt, cafepress, | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | Golden Ribbon, Think Penguin or similar [Mc] | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | * Outreachy: Next round starts in August | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | [https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/] | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | * Action Items | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | * Other Business | Aug 03 10:02 |
| crogers | o/ | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | ooh, I got a stern warning for pasting in the agenda ;-) | Aug 03 10:02 |
| bryyce | anti-spam seems to be aggressive now :-) | Aug 03 10:03 |
| tedg | Haha, Freenode has been having a lot of spam issues. | Aug 03 10:03 |
| crogers | haha | Aug 03 10:03 |
| Tavmjong | Anti-haha | Aug 03 10:03 |
| bryyce | hi Moini! | Aug 03 10:04 |
| Moini | Hi bryyce and all! | Aug 03 10:04 |
| bryyce | so, first item on the agenda is the Kiel hackfest. | Aug 03 10:04 |
| ScislaC | Would you like some pills to make you bigger, or smaller? | Aug 03 10:04 |
| bryyce | sorry, been meaning to get the vote on the additional members, things have just been super busy at work last few weeks (trip to korea + follow ups) | Aug 03 10:05 |
| ScislaC | I thought we were supposed to be spamming? | Aug 03 10:05 |
| Moini | The article for the Hackfest was published yesterday. Didn't get to translating yet. | Aug 03 10:05 |
| bryyce | if we want to do a quick vote here in irc I can turn it into a resolution | Aug 03 10:05 |
| Mc | sure | Aug 03 10:06 |
| tedg | +1 | Aug 03 10:06 |
| Tavmjong | +1 | Aug 03 10:06 |
| bryyce | Moini, it looks good. I pointed Deb at it in case she wants to include it with SFC outreach | Aug 03 10:06 |
| bryyce | +1 from me on the additional members | Aug 03 10:06 |
| crogers | What are we voting on? | Aug 03 10:06 |
| Moini | (sorry, who is Deb?) | Aug 03 10:06 |
| Mc | crogers: we are voting on the opportunity of voting right now to add the last two people on the hackfest budget | Aug 03 10:07 |
| ScislaC | +1 | Aug 03 10:07 |
| crogers | +1 | Aug 03 10:07 |
| bryyce | Moini, she is a new employee at SFC who will be doing more direct project relations | Aug 03 10:07 |
| tedg | Moini: New employee for SFC | Aug 03 10:07 |
| Mc | Moini: Deb Nicholson | Aug 03 10:07 |
| Moini | Ah, thank you, all :) | Aug 03 10:07 |
| Mc | ( https://sfconservancy.org/news/2018/may/01/deb-nicholson-director-community-operations/ ) | Aug 03 10:08 |
| bryyce | she's got deep roots in FOSS | Aug 03 10:08 |
| bryyce | ok, thanks for the votes, that is enough to pass. I'll finalize the vote this afternoon. | Aug 03 10:08 |
| Mc | if you send the email now we can get it voted by the end of the meeting :p | Aug 03 10:09 |
| bryyce | Are there other matters relating to Kiel worth discussing? Looking like planning has been proceeding well? | Aug 03 10:09 |
| bryyce | Mc, hard for me to multitask but I can try | Aug 03 10:09 |
| doctormon | sorry for the up and down | Aug 03 10:10 |
| Moini | We'll get beverages from Kitz, and attendees are invited to take part in the Kitz annual barbecue, with voluntary donation for food. | Aug 03 10:10 |
| *doctormon wishes we had history in irc | Aug 03 10:10 | |
| Moini | CR wants to do videos :) | Aug 03 10:10 |
| Mc | oh, I did not recall the lodging arrangements | Aug 03 10:10 |
| Mc | do we have a group place ? | Aug 03 10:10 |
| Moini | Not really, AFAIK | Aug 03 10:11 |
| crogers | CR wants to do videos. = CR will do videos. ;) | Aug 03 10:11 |
| Moini | CR has found a hotel, where maybe doctormo will sleep, too. | Aug 03 10:11 |
| Moini | That's all of 'group lodging' I know about. | Aug 03 10:11 |
| Tavmjong | Hotel name? | Aug 03 10:11 |
| crogers | By the way, can I use some of my 2k budget to bring and extra bag of camera equipment? | Aug 03 10:12 |
| Moini | Tavmjong Hotel City Kiel by Premiere Classe, Kiel | Aug 03 10:12 |
| Tavmjong | Moini, Thanks | Aug 03 10:12 |
| bryyce | crogers, do you mean to cover luggage fees? | Aug 03 10:12 |
| Tavmjong | crogers, Better OK it with SFC ahead of time. | Aug 03 10:12 |
| crogers | Yes. My flight was super cheap, but it's only one bag. | Aug 03 10:13 |
| Mc | crogers: you can ask on #conservancy | Aug 03 10:13 |
| bryyce | yes, Tav's right | Aug 03 10:13 |
| Mc | I'm going by train, btw (9h from Paris) | Aug 03 10:13 |
| Moini | That's fast :) | Aug 03 10:13 |
| crogers | okay, will do. | Aug 03 10:13 |
| Moini | crogers you're coming on Monday only, right? So one day later? | Aug 03 10:14 |
| doctormon | I'll fly light but you need cameras cr? | Aug 03 10:14 |
| Tavmjong | Mc, Can you send me train schedule? Might be tempted to do same. | Aug 03 10:14 |
| crogers | I have several cameras. Using the DSLR mostly. | Aug 03 10:14 |
| crogers | But I'll bring the sony pocket cam as a backup. | Aug 03 10:14 |
| Moini | s/coming/joining us | Aug 03 10:15 |
| bryyce | crogers, I'm guessing it'll be fine with SFC. Worst case is we'll do a board vote to approve it as a separate event expense. | Aug 03 10:15 |
| Tavmjong | crogers, But do check ahead... | Aug 03 10:15 |
| tedg | crogers: Can you ping to find out so we can put it into the same vote? | Aug 03 10:15 |
| tedg | Would be great to get everything done. | Aug 03 10:16 |
| crogers | Yea, I have a feeling witht he coffeemachine and portable lights, I'll need an extra bag. | Aug 03 10:16 |
| bryyce | Moini are there any other potential attendees we should also pre-approve? | Aug 03 10:16 |
| Moini | None that I know of currently, thanks for asking. | Aug 03 10:16 |
| Mc | Tavmjong: TGV9951 on Sat 8 (departure 9h06) to Frankfurt then ICE74 (arrival at 18h44) - 90€ | Aug 03 10:16 |
| Moini | Ede123 Do you know already if you'll be able to come? | Aug 03 10:17 |
| Moini | Ede_123, I mean. | Aug 03 10:17 |
| Mc | then return on Sat 15 ICE77 (departure 11h13) to Frankfurt then TGV 9560 (arrival at 20h41) | Aug 03 10:17 |
| crogers | #conservancy is not a thing. | Aug 03 10:17 |
| crogers | Well it is, but only because I am in it. :P | Aug 03 10:17 |
| ScislaC | Grrr, sorry for flaky net connection. | Aug 03 10:18 |
| Mc | crogers: maybe on the wrong network ? | Aug 03 10:18 |
| crogers | is it GNOME? | Aug 03 10:18 |
| Mc | no | Aug 03 10:18 |
| Mc | freenode | Aug 03 10:18 |
| crogers | Yep, not a thing. | Aug 03 10:18 |
| Mc | definitely a thing, I'm there :p | Aug 03 10:18 |
| crogers | did I spell it wrong? | Aug 03 10:18 |
| tedg | You spelled it right there. I'm there as well, perhaps /whois me ? | Aug 03 10:19 |
| crogers | did they? ;P | Aug 03 10:19 |
| crogers | okay, looks like I'm not connected to it, because... who knows. | Aug 03 10:20 |
| crogers | because Polari is a bag of ass. :) | Aug 03 10:20 |
| Mc | it is in +r because of the spam | Aug 03 10:20 |
| Mc | (so you have to be connected to a freenode account) | Aug 03 10:20 |
| crogers | ah... so what do I do? | Aug 03 10:20 |
| crogers | okay, no warning, nothing. | Aug 03 10:21 |
| Moini | You need an account. | Aug 03 10:21 |
| Mc | there should be a line in the control channel | Aug 03 10:21 |
| *Lazur suggests then the homepage's community-live chat page may need some update notes on the matter? | Aug 03 10:21 | |
| Lazur | hello all | Aug 03 10:21 |
| bryyce | hi Lazur | Aug 03 10:21 |
| bryyce | sounds like a good idea | Aug 03 10:21 |
| Mc | Lazur: I removed the +r a few hours ago | Aug 03 10:21 |
| Moini | Hi Lazur, for our inkscape channels, Mark has fixed it. | Aug 03 10:21 |
| ScislaC | I'm confused, is the meeting already over? Was there a net-split? | Aug 03 10:22 |
| Mc | I've seen the last 4 hours without spammer | Aug 03 10:22 |
| Mc | ScislaC: no, no, we are just digressing | Aug 03 10:22 |
| tedg | ScislaC: No, we're trying to coordinate finding info on extra bags and budge for Kiel. | Aug 03 10:22 |
| tedg | budget | Aug 03 10:22 |
| bryyce | Scislac, we're still going :-) | Aug 03 10:22 |
| jabiertxof | hi all | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Lazur | Moini, thank you for the photos | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Moini | You're welcome Lazur | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Lazur | can derivatives of them shared at ocal? | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Moini | Hi jabiertxof ! | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Moini | Lazur, yes. | Aug 03 10:23 |
| ScislaC | Ahhhh! K, sorry, my connection dropping isn't helpful to following. | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Lazur | *be shared | Aug 03 10:23 |
| Lazur | ok, thank's again | Aug 03 10:23 |
| crogers | well, I logged in via messaging nickserv | Aug 03 10:24 |
| bryyce | ok, anything else on Kiel? | Aug 03 10:24 |
| Moini | Not for a board meeting, at least from me. | Aug 03 10:24 |
| Lazur | side related | Aug 03 10:24 |
| Lazur | https://openclipart.org/detail/304762/hackfest-2018-in-kiel | Aug 03 10:24 |
| crogers | I'm seeing again why people hate IRC. | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Mc | Should a team member travel on an airline that charges for a single piece of checked baggage, such a baggage expense is eligible for reimbursement with a receipt. Team members are responsible for charges on any baggage beyond a single piece, unless that additional baggage is materials specifically related to the Project’s and Conservancy’s mission (i.e., bringing t-shirts and other | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Mc | promotional materials to an event). | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Mc | that's in the policy | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Lazur | for announcement purposes and sharing keyboard layouts made this substitute logo for sharing on openclipart | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Mc | so the easiest thing is to vote for it and approve the expense | Aug 03 10:25 |
| crogers | Yea, let's do that. | Aug 03 10:25 |
| Lazur | =not the original with gnu license but public domain | Aug 03 10:26 |
| crogers | In the case the bag will contain coffee machine, a box of coffee pods, lights and light stands. | Aug 03 10:26 |
| bryyce | btw, who is Khaled Hosny? I don't recognize the name offhand | Aug 03 10:26 |
| Mc | a fairly recent contributor | Aug 03 10:26 |
| Moini | Font expert (simplified) | Aug 03 10:26 |
| Tavmjong | He's done some bug stuff on text. | Aug 03 10:26 |
| bryyce | ok thanks | Aug 03 10:27 |
| Mc | (he started contributing about 1 year ago) | Aug 03 10:28 |
| Mc | (on glyph positionning) | Aug 03 10:28 |
| Moini | https://tex-talk.net/2013/09/textalk-an-interview-with-khaled-hosny/ | Aug 03 10:28 |
| crogers | I found someone who will do Inkscape polo shirts. | Aug 03 10:28 |
| doctormon | Interesting | Aug 03 10:28 |
| crogers | embroidered | Aug 03 10:28 |
| doctormon | crogers: Saw that! | Aug 03 10:28 |
| Mc | yeah, that seems nice | Aug 03 10:29 |
| Mc | btw I received the spreadshirt order | Aug 03 10:29 |
| bryyce | I emailed Bradley about the issues with having to individually approve travelers with followup board votes. Not that it's hard, just an annoying time consumer for all of us... | Aug 03 10:29 |
| crogers | THey basically handle everything too, which makes me super happy. :) | Aug 03 10:29 |
| doctormon | Mc: What did you get? | Aug 03 10:29 |
| crogers | They are a bit on the expensive side, but I think it's fine. Not outrageuos. | Aug 03 10:29 |
| Mc | crogers: how much is an additional bag ? | Aug 03 10:30 |
| crogers | Mc can you post a pic of the results? | Aug 03 10:30 |
| bryyce | crogers, yeah saw $33 for gnome's t-shirt, that's a lot. What's the % donated back to the project? | Aug 03 10:30 |
| Mc | doctormon: a tshirt and buttons | Aug 03 10:30 |
| crogers | Mc Dunno yet. I'll check | Aug 03 10:30 |
| Mc | the inkscape logo is blueish | Aug 03 10:30 |
| crogers | please post picture. :) | Aug 03 10:30 |
| tedg | They have some Debian underware, I want Inkscape boxers 😉 | Aug 03 10:31 |
| doctormon | tedg: I want! | Aug 03 10:31 |
| bryyce | crogers, do they only do shirts with the logo, or would they be able to handle other art? Are there any costs to us for e.g. paying upfront for inventory, etc.? | Aug 03 10:31 |
| Moini | jabiertxof (direct messaging doesn't work) , do you already know if you'll be able to come to Kiel? | Aug 03 10:31 |
| crogers | bryyce: I think they put it upin their own shop like what's already there, and handle everything. | Aug 03 10:31 |
| crogers | Which explains the high price. | Aug 03 10:32 |
| bryyce | would someone mind ordering one of the products from one of the other FOSS groups, and give us a report on verifying the product quality is good? From the website sounds like it should be, but probably wise to doublecheck. | Aug 03 10:32 |
| crogers | If we at least like the idea, I'll get more details from them. | Aug 03 10:32 |
| crogers | Well, to be honest, if I'm buying something, I'll ask them for an inkscape one. I'll send them the artwork. | Aug 03 10:33 |
| bryyce | crogers, please do. It sounds like we all do like the idea. More details and info will help in making a decision. | Aug 03 10:33 |
| jabiertxof | not jet | Aug 03 10:33 |
| crogers | Cool. | Aug 03 10:33 |
| crogers | That response was just today, so it's pretty new business. :) | Aug 03 10:33 |
| bryyce | ACTION: Investigate hellotux.com for merchandise | Aug 03 10:33 |
| Moini | jabiertxof Okay | Aug 03 10:33 |
| doctormon | crogers: I'll go in with you on that order (or two orders for the same design) | Aug 03 10:33 |
| bryyce | ACTION: Investigate hellotux.com for merchandise [crogers] | Aug 03 10:33 |
| crogers | doctormon: okay. | Aug 03 10:34 |
| bryyce | crogers, also ask how they do the donations to the projects. Do they already have a payment process worked out with SFC? It would be preferable to have the payments to us be direct to SFC rather than through paypal since we'll lose a big chunk on the transaction fees. | Aug 03 10:35 |
| crogers | I'll bring that up with them. | Aug 03 10:36 |
| crogers | Though I'm sure something can be worked out. | Aug 03 10:36 |
| bryyce | yep, just paperwork :-) | Aug 03 10:37 |
| bryyce | thanks! | Aug 03 10:37 |
| bryyce | ok, getting back to topics relating to hackfests | Aug 03 10:37 |
| bryyce | === Future meetings/hackfests === | Aug 03 10:37 |
| bryyce | last meeting we discussed prep for SCALE, did anyone happen to get a wiki page going for a SCALEhackfest? | Aug 03 10:38 |
| Tavmjong | It doesn't look like it. I can do it. | Aug 03 10:39 |
| Tavmjong | There is one for Saarbrucken. | Aug 03 10:39 |
| bryyce | Tavmjong, excellent thanks | Aug 03 10:39 |
| Tavmjong | Who is going to do the planning for it? | Aug 03 10:40 |
| bryyce | tedg and scislac, thanks for looking into pre/post SCALEmeeting options / AirBNB, mind updating us on what you found? | Aug 03 10:40 |
| ScislaC | No, we haven't even had a SCALE meeting (as in the conference chairs have been trying to get together for a couple months), so I didn't have a baseline for content really. | Aug 03 10:40 |
| Mc | my phone is een worse than I thought at taking photos | Aug 03 10:40 |
| Mc | https://imgur.com/a/XWJftd4 | Aug 03 10:40 |
| *Mc should get a new one | Aug 03 10:41 | |
| tedg | So I reached out to someone that I know on Ubuntu CA who lives in Pasadena, I haven't heard back from him yet. | Aug 03 10:41 |
| tedg | But, I only did that this week when I saw this meeting on my schedule :-) | Aug 03 10:42 |
| tedg | I'm hoping to hear back on that, and work from tehre. | Aug 03 10:42 |
| bryyce | ok, kiel travel sponsor vote sent out; check your emails | Aug 03 10:45 |
| bryyce | rush job, sorry if I made any errors | Aug 03 10:45 |
| doctormon | Mc: Increase the amount of light used in taking photos | Aug 03 10:46 |
| crogers | quick side note, does anyone want to be copied in on my interactions with hellotux? | Aug 03 10:46 |
| Mc | o/ | Aug 03 10:46 |
| bryyce | tedg, ScislaC, great thanks, looking forward to the info coming together. | Aug 03 10:47 |
| bryyce | tedg, ScislaC, maybe in the meanwhile after the wiki page is set up, could we start sketching together a potential attendees? You can put me down. | Aug 03 10:47 |
| bryyce | crogers, you can include me, I'd like to follow the discussions :-) | Aug 03 10:48 |
| crogers | I guess the question is, are you satisfied with that purchase, Mc? | Aug 03 10:48 |
| crogers | Was it worth the money for the quality you got? | Aug 03 10:48 |
| tedg | Sounds good. | Aug 03 10:48 |
| tedg | I think we need to start getting some ideas together soon, next month will be 6mo out. | Aug 03 10:49 |
| bryyce | tedg agreed | Aug 03 10:49 |
| Mc | crogers: I'll tell you after two machine washes | Aug 03 10:49 |
| Lazur | Brynn had a previous idea of producing adult coloring books | Aug 03 10:49 |
| bryyce | === Merchandise Sales === | Aug 03 10:49 |
| Lazur | which is a big hit afaik atm | Aug 03 10:49 |
| bryyce | sounds like we've covered hellotux adequately, there's action items there. | Aug 03 10:50 |
| Tavmjong | I need to go in a couple of minutes. | Aug 03 10:50 |
| Lazur | and as you mentioned paperwork some foldable art produced with inkscape&cnc could also be conveying | Aug 03 10:50 |
| bryyce | sounds like things are coming along with spreadshirt? | Aug 03 10:50 |
| doctormon | crogers: I'd like to be included on the emails | Aug 03 10:50 |
| crogers | Okay, I've forwarded you the one I sent, doc. | Aug 03 10:51 |
| Mc | crogers: I'll come to the hackfest with my shirt, of course | Aug 03 10:52 |
| crogers | Mc: Okay, I guess we'll see then. | Aug 03 10:52 |
| doctormon | crogers: tah! | Aug 03 10:52 |
| crogers | bryyce: Yes, spreadshirt is set up. I have not announced it yet, because I wanted to make sure the results are good enough quality. | Aug 03 10:52 |
| crogers | Mc volunteered to order one for us. | Aug 03 10:53 |
| bryyce | crogers that's great! | Aug 03 10:53 |
| Mc | (and I received it) | Aug 03 10:53 |
| crogers | It looks like there's a glowy bit around the black version. | Aug 03 10:53 |
| crogers | which isn't in the graphic. | Aug 03 10:53 |
| crogers | So the question is: did that work? | Aug 03 10:54 |
| crogers | I guess it would be better to get rid of the shadow, since it's handled imporperly by spreadshisrt. | Aug 03 10:54 |
| Mc | the glowing is ok (if it does not wear off when washing) | Aug 03 10:54 |
| crogers | (though somwhat better than I'd envisioned as a worst-case scenario) | Aug 03 10:55 |
| crogers | This is where I may be just being too picky. | Aug 03 10:55 |
| crogers | Fact is, we do nothing to fullfill the order. | Aug 03 10:56 |
| crogers | And that by far is the best feature. | Aug 03 10:56 |
| Mc | ^^ | Aug 03 10:56 |
| crogers | So shall we announce it? | Aug 03 10:56 |
| Mc | maybe wait for the hackfest ? | Aug 03 10:56 |
| Mc | so that you can judge from mine | Aug 03 10:56 |
| crogers | Yea, I think so. | Aug 03 10:56 |
| crogers | Well, I'd like to. | Aug 03 10:57 |
| crogers | I may edit it. | Aug 03 10:57 |
| Mc | (I think the blue shade of the right of the logo is too blue) | Aug 03 10:57 |
| crogers | While you're wearing it. ;) | Aug 03 10:57 |
| bryyce | perhaps this would be a good point to get the Vectors team involved? | Aug 03 10:57 |
| Mc | shame it won't edit live :p | Aug 03 10:57 |
| crogers | Mc: You've seen my group photos. :) | Aug 03 10:58 |
| Moini | No T-Shirt LPE? Shame. | Aug 03 10:58 |
| crogers | I edit the everloving crap out of those. :) | Aug 03 10:58 |
| *crogers is also wicked good witha black sharpie. ;) | Aug 03 10:58 | |
| bryyce | ok, since we're almost at the hour, just want to do a quick check in with some action items we identified last meeting: | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | === 1.0 Release === | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | ♢ ACTION: Check in with people doing test case conversion [Tav] | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | ♢ ACTION: ping jimmac about the symbolic icons for adding the theme to Inkscape [scislac] | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | ♢ ACTION: Set up wiki page for collecting ideas of things worth getting fixed for 1.0 [crogers] | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | ♢ ACTION: Brainstorm plans for 1.0beta / 1.0 commemorative merch [crogers, tedg] | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | ♢ ACTION: Plan video for Inkscape 1.0 release [crogers] | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | (aw jeez even that triggered the anti-spam nag. hah) | Aug 03 10:59 |
| Moini | Item 3: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/1.0_Release_Bug_Fix_List | Aug 03 10:59 |
| crogers | wiki page with 1.0 bugs has been up. I've had to stop my bug reporting activities because trunk is presently broken for me. | Aug 03 10:59 |
| bryyce | great | Aug 03 10:59 |
| Moini | I've done a small survey on the forums, and added the results. Hope that's okay. | Aug 03 11:00 |
| bryyce | yeah I saw some discussions about breakages, although I got the impression it was getting fixed up? If not, has there been discussion of backing out the change that broke it until it's had more testing time? | Aug 03 11:00 |
| Mc | don't tempt sigyn | Aug 03 11:00 |
| crogers | jabiertxof: has patched it. | Aug 03 11:00 |
| crogers | I'm waiting for the ppa to update to test. | Aug 03 11:01 |
| Mc | yay curated bug list \o/ | Aug 03 11:01 |
| bryyce | Moini, thanks for collecting that | Aug 03 11:01 |
| ScislaC | bryyce: I need to retry following up with Barbara regarding icons. She hasn't responded, and that's who Jimmac was mentoring that actually authored most of the icons. | Aug 03 11:01 |
| bryyce | ScislaC, ok thanks | Aug 03 11:02 |
| bryyce | crogers, Moini, thanks for assembling this list | Aug 03 11:02 |
| crogers | going to give jabiertxof time to fix it. It's not an emergency, and I don't want to stop the development train just yet. | Aug 03 11:02 |
| bryyce | ACTION: Review bug fix list http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/1.0_Release_Bug_Fix_List [bryce] | Aug 03 11:02 |
| crogers | Anyone with a working version of trunk can help Maren and I by filling in the bug tracker refs. | Aug 03 11:03 |
| crogers | Everything on that list needs a tracker link, otherwise, it's not a bug, it's a feature. ;) | Aug 03 11:04 |
| crogers | If there isn't one, then one needs to be written. | Aug 03 11:04 |
| Mc | my #1 bug for now is "my cpu cooler does not work on my desktop pc" but once this will be fixed I'll try to fix stuff | Aug 03 11:04 |
| tedg | The snap build was failing, but I checked it locally and it worked. I need to double check what's up there. | Aug 03 11:04 |
| bryyce | one thing that would help a lot would be someone to focus on bug fix coordination - i.e. recruit developers to take assignment of the bugs, and then keep following up / poking belly buttons until the issues get resolved. | Aug 03 11:05 |
| crogers | I haven't tried to use the snap... | Aug 03 11:05 |
| crogers | where is that exactly? | Aug 03 11:05 |
| Moini | apt-get install snapd; snap install inkscape (and then something for the development version) see https://inkscape.org/en/release/master/gnulinux/snap/dl/ | Aug 03 11:06 |
| crogers | oh nevermind, it's on the download page. | Aug 03 11:06 |
| crogers | Yea, stupid question. :) | Aug 03 11:07 |
| Moini | Yes :) | Aug 03 11:07 |
| bryyce | anyone have ideas for someone to recruit for doing bug management for 1.0? | Aug 03 11:07 |
| bryyce | (or volunteers?) | Aug 03 11:07 |
| Mc | I can try | Aug 03 11:07 |
| crogers | I'll continue to makee bug reports. | Aug 03 11:07 |
| Moini | (yes to: it's on the dl page, not the stupid question) | Aug 03 11:07 |
| crogers | Once mine are done, I'll help fill in bugs for Marens. | Aug 03 11:08 |
| crogers | Moini: yea, got it. :) Thanks for the clarification, though. | Aug 03 11:08 |
| Moini | crogers that's nice of you, I'm swamped with Kielux work. | Aug 03 11:08 |
| tedg | crogers: you can do a --edge on the snap install to get the master version | Aug 03 11:08 |
| Moini | tedg : that's on the dl page, too :) | Aug 03 11:08 |
| bryyce | Mc, that would be hugely awesome, thanks! I'll follow up with you on that | Aug 03 11:09 |
| tedg | Haha, I've been replaced by a small webpage ;-) | Aug 03 11:09 |
| bryyce | ACTION: Plan bug management for 1.0 [bryce,Mc] | Aug 03 11:09 |
| Moini | No, you're needed to fix the snap issues, tedg! | Aug 03 11:09 |
| crogers | tedg: I prefer to think that's youve replaced Google. | Aug 03 11:09 |
| crogers | I prefer to think that... yea | Aug 03 11:10 |
| *crogers examines fingers | Aug 03 11:10 | |
| bryyce | ok, moving on in the agenda... | Aug 03 11:10 |
| bryyce | === Outreachy === | Aug 03 11:10 |
| tedg | crogers: Haha | Aug 03 11:10 |
| bryyce | I think nothing big to report here yet. Still room for more students + mentors so let us know if you know of someone. | Aug 03 11:11 |
| Mc | what is left to do on outreachy ? August is approaching fast :p | Aug 03 11:11 |
| bryyce | Mc, arranging sponsors (which is underway) | Aug 03 11:11 |
| bryyce | Mc, we have one mentor/student/project set identified so far, would be good to get a few more | Aug 03 11:12 |
| Mc | which project is it ? | Aug 03 11:12 |
| bryyce | I'll have to dig up the details, I believe its python extension work with doctormo as mentor | Aug 03 11:13 |
| bryyce | === Action Items === | Aug 03 11:13 |
| Moini | ... and Tonya as mentee? Tonya is working on them, at least. | Aug 03 11:13 |
| bryyce | looks like we've covered the ones from last meeting | Aug 03 11:13 |
| bryyce | right | Aug 03 11:13 |
| jabiertxof | Just a question for testing 1.0: I think appimage is a good alternative to snap for all distros to test | Aug 03 11:13 |
| crogers | Oh, hackfest stickers are on the way. | Aug 03 11:14 |
| Moini | jabiertxof, I agree. | Aug 03 11:14 |
| jabiertxof | maybe we can pacage only appimages for devel | Aug 03 11:15 |
| crogers | https://inkscape.org/en/~C.Rogers/%E2%98%85kiel-kitz-hackfest-sticker | Aug 03 11:15 |
| jabiertxof | or selfcompiling | Aug 03 11:15 |
| Moini | download, double-click. Can't get easier. | Aug 03 11:15 |
| Moini | oh, and make executable. | Aug 03 11:15 |
| Mc | wget, chmod +x, ./ | Aug 03 11:15 |
| bryyce | ACTION: Verify that outreachy project proposal is written and available online [doctormo] | Aug 03 11:15 |
| tedg | If people want to, that's fine, but generally recommending people to execute something in their home directory is pretty scary from a security perspective. | Aug 03 11:15 |
| bryyce | doctormon, hope you don't mind if I give you that task :-) | Aug 03 11:16 |
| crogers | I'm not sure how many new ubuntu users can use the command line though. | Aug 03 11:16 |
| tedg | I guess it's better than a PPA though :-/ | Aug 03 11:16 |
| crogers | That's scarier to users than executing stuff. | Aug 03 11:16 |
| crogers | via double-click | Aug 03 11:17 |
| bryyce | === Other Business === | Aug 03 11:17 |
| jabiertxof | you can make executable with right click also | Aug 03 11:17 |
| bryyce | Any other topics for board to discuss before we close? | Aug 03 11:17 |
| crogers | Yea, as long as there's instructions, I don't see the harm. | Aug 03 11:17 |
| Mc | crogers: that's ok, it took me some time before I spent more time in the console than out of it | Aug 03 11:18 |
| doctormon | bryce: not at all | Aug 03 11:18 |
| Mc | well, don't forget to vote on the latest email to the board, all :p | Aug 03 11:18 |
| crogers | Maybe a warning not to do this for untrusted downloads, but it's literally not a problem on Linux atm. | Aug 03 11:18 |
| Mc | we only have 3 votes | Aug 03 11:18 |
| jabiertxof | anyone have mac package from gitlab running? | Aug 03 11:19 |
| tedg | I'm happy testing the snap, and it auto-updates. | Aug 03 11:19 |
| Mc | crogers: well, well, except that time where a steam updater launched manually erased the home directory of people | Aug 03 11:19 |
| Mc | jabiertxof: no | Aug 03 11:19 |
| doctormon | jabiertxof: yes | Aug 03 11:19 |
| Mc | I think I saw like 4 people willing to do it | Aug 03 11:20 |
| crogers | Mc: That made the system technically more secure. ;P | Aug 03 11:20 |
| doctormon | Do you mean GitHub? | Aug 03 11:20 |
| tedg | I love GTK3, I hate when something doesn't work and I have to go back to 2 :-) | Aug 03 11:20 |
| jabiertxof | tedg burt is only ubuntu/debian one | Aug 03 11:20 |
| tedg | jabiertxof: No, pretty much works everywhere. | Aug 03 11:20 |
| bryyce | alright, well if there's nothing else board-related let's close the meeting out | Aug 03 11:20 |
| Mc | doctormon: no, gitlab | Aug 03 11:20 |
| doctormon | OhI haven't seen any GitLab MacOSX version | Aug 03 11:20 |
| jabiertxof | great tedg | Aug 03 11:20 |
| tedg | jabiertxof: check the list of distros people have installed Inkscape on at the bottom: https://snapcraft.io/inkscape | Aug 03 11:20 |
| bryyce | === End of Meeting === | Aug 03 11:21 |
| bryyce | thanks all! | Aug 03 11:21 |
| crogers | No problem. :) | Aug 03 11:21 |
| jabiertxof | thanks tedg! | Aug 03 11:21 |
| *tedg waves! | Aug 03 11:21 | |
| crogers | Thanks everyone else. | Aug 03 11:21 |
| ScislaC | Thanks all! :) | Aug 03 11:21 |
| doctormon | thanks! | Aug 03 11:21 |
| Moini | tedg, we often get complaints because of people not being able to access fonts, folders etc. with snap. | Aug 03 11:21 |
| crogers | o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o | Aug 03 11:22 |
| Mc | next meeting will be 2 days before hackfest | Aug 03 11:22 |
| doctormon | Thanks everyone | Aug 03 11:22 |
| Mc | I may miss it | Aug 03 11:22 |
| doctormon | We should host meeting at hackfest | Aug 03 11:22 |
| *Mc has changed the topic to: www.inkscape.org || Draw freely! || Development discussion channel || Next board meeting: [TBD, at Kiel's Hackfest] | Aug 03 11:23 | |
| crogers | Mc, I'm not happy with their button maker. | Aug 03 11:26 |
| crogers | I think we should take that one off, since they can't write software to align it properly. :P | Aug 03 11:26 |
| doctormon | crogers: We should agree to use hellotux if we can update their logo with an svg instead of the blurry one they have now ;-) | Aug 03 11:26 |
| Mc | nah, too small for the price and not well printed | Aug 03 11:26 |
| Mc | (the button) | Aug 03 11:27 |
| crogers | doctormon: Haha | Aug 03 11:27 |
| crogers | Maybe I can get a discount for revectorisation. ;) | Aug 03 11:27 |
| Mc | (there is a line around the logo blur which is ugly) | Aug 03 11:27 |
| crogers | Yea, pathetic. | Aug 03 11:27 |
| crogers | I'll probably go with a siplified graphic with no shadow. | Aug 03 11:28 |
| crogers | just the white border. | Aug 03 11:28 |
| tedg | Moini: sure, there are definitely a few issues there. But for testing master it is pretty easy as it auto updates. | Aug 03 11:29 |
| crogers | FOr spreadshirt anyway. If we were printing these ourselves through vistaprint, they do an outstanding job, and it's less than £10/shirt | Aug 03 11:29 |
| Moini | tedg, yes, auto-updating is useful. | Aug 03 11:29 |
| doctormon | crogers: Maybe an actual logo they can use as their website's ico file too. | Aug 03 11:29 |
| Moini | (for this) | Aug 03 11:29 |
| doctormon | Instead of the classic yellow and black tux image. | Aug 03 11:29 |
| doctormon | Oh wait, two different topics. Sorry crogers! | Aug 03 11:30 |
| crogers | doctormon: sure. I'll pitch it to them. Maybe they will send us a sample for free in exchange for hundreds of pounds wirth of logo work. :) | Aug 03 11:30 |
| rindolf | doctormon: here? | Aug 03 13:30 |
| rindolf | doctormon: can we talk about the porting to py 3 ? | Aug 03 13:30 |
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