| Xortex | I'm getting the dreaded GitLab: API is not accessible | Sep 07 09:24 |
|---|---|---|
| Xortex | fatal: Could not read from remote repository. | Sep 07 09:24 |
| Xortex | Please make sure you have the correct access rights | Sep 07 09:24 |
| Xortex | and the repository exists. | Sep 07 09:24 |
| Xortex | I have ssh keys on the gitlab profile | Sep 07 09:24 |
| Xortex | git remove -v gives mes: | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | GitLab: API is not accessible | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | fatal: Could not read from remote repository. | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | Please make sure you have the correct access rights | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | and the repository exists. | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | wait | Sep 07 09:25 |
| Xortex | origingit@gitlab.com:inkscape/inkscape.git (fetch) | Sep 07 09:26 |
| Xortex | origingit@gitlab.com:inkscape/inkscape.git (push) | Sep 07 09:26 |
| Xortex | and ssh git@gitlab.com gives: | Sep 07 09:27 |
| Xortex | PTY allocation request failed on channel 0 | Sep 07 09:27 |
| Xortex | Welcome to GitLab, @Xortex! | Sep 07 09:27 |
| Xortex | Connection to gitlab.com closed. | Sep 07 09:27 |
| bryce | Xortex hmm, I don't think anything has changed on our end; my git checkout of inkscape pulls fine | Sep 07 09:27 |
| Xortex | i must have somthing wrong | Sep 07 09:29 |
| bryce | Xortex, ssh keys usually worth examining first, for me at least half the time it's some ssh change I did and forgot about :-) | Sep 07 09:30 |
| Xortex | maybe I can try using a new set | Sep 07 09:55 |
| doctormon | Hello | Sep 07 10:02 |
| doctormon | Is the meeting here now? | Sep 07 10:03 |
| bryce | hi, yes | Sep 07 10:03 |
| *tedg waves | Sep 07 10:03 | |
| bryce | == Inkscape Board Meeting == | Sep 07 10:04 |
| bryce | Agenda: | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Kiel Hackfest next week ~ [[Hackfest2018 Kiel]] | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Future meetings/hackfests. | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | ** [http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/17x/ SCALE] - March 7th-10th, | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | 2019 (Pasadena, California) | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | ** [http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/ LGM 2019] - May 30th-June 3rd | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | (Saarbrucken, Germany) Proposed. (About two hours by train from | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | Paris.) | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Merchandise sales | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | ** Spreadshirt | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | ** Evaluate self-serve merchandise sales - spreadshirt, cafepress, | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | Golden Ribbon, Think Penguin or similar [Mc] | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Outreachy: Next round starts in August | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | [https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/] | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Action Items | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | * Other Business | Sep 07 10:05 |
| bryce | Sep 07 10:05 | |
| bryce | possibly some folks are already on travel, so we'll keep things flexible | Sep 07 10:06 |
| bryce | tedg, ScislaC, I posted a vote on outreachy last night, would be great to get your votes | Sep 07 10:06 |
| bryce | I'll send that up today | Sep 07 10:06 |
| tedg | I was gonna ask about that, I'm worried that a donate button isn't gonna be enough there. | Sep 07 10:06 |
| tedg | Do we have some potential corporate sponsors? | Sep 07 10:07 |
| doctormon | I share that concern to a degree | Sep 07 10:07 |
| bryce | yeah me too, however at the outset Máirín said she could line something up no problem, and I've not heard otherwise | Sep 07 10:08 |
| bryce | I tacked on the provision at the end of the background to address exactly this concern -- if insufficient funds are gathered to cover one slot, we will need to re-evaluate before proceeding further | Sep 07 10:09 |
| tedg | Sounds good, I just didn't want to run a campaign that we know is unlikely to be successful. Wears down public good. | Sep 07 10:09 |
| bryce | yeah, agreed | Sep 07 10:10 |
| bryce | I'll shoot her an email and inquire | Sep 07 10:10 |
| tedg | Great, thanks bryce | Sep 07 10:10 |
| bryce | ACTION: Check with fundraising status on outreachy, and finalize vote [bryce] | Sep 07 10:11 |
| bryce | on to agenda items | Sep 07 10:11 |
| bryce | === Kiel Hackfest === | Sep 07 10:11 |
| tedg | Hopefully that's happening more than needing to be discussed ;-) | Sep 07 10:12 |
| bryce | it sounds like all the plans are going well, I have nothing to say or add there, but if anyone here has issues to bring up now would be a great time | Sep 07 10:12 |
| Moini__ | :) Nothing new from me. We're going to be 10 during the first couple of days, then 8. | Sep 07 10:12 |
| doctormon | Should be interesting. I'm hoping to focus on extensions and this extensions installer I've been trying to design. | Sep 07 10:13 |
| bryce | cool, sounds quite similar to the numbers we've had at past hackfests | Sep 07 10:13 |
| Moini__ | I haven't seen any concrete plans as to what people want to tackle, but I guess that's going to be worked out when we're there. | Sep 07 10:13 |
| Moini__ | Aside from doctormo's now :) | Sep 07 10:13 |
| doctormon | Well you never know what we will work on tbh | Sep 07 10:14 |
| Moini__ | Guessed so :) | Sep 07 10:14 |
| doctormon | I want to practice my spanish with Jabier, but that's aside ;-) | Sep 07 10:15 |
| Moini__ | You'll need to line up! | Sep 07 10:15 |
| bryce | I'd love it if any release bugs can get some attention | Sep 07 10:16 |
| Moini__ | Yes, we've made that list on the Wiki. | Sep 07 10:16 |
| bryce | awesome, even just figuring out plans of actions on some of the ones on the list would likely help a lot | Sep 07 10:16 |
| bryce | ok, moving on | Sep 07 10:16 |
| bryce | === Future Meetings === | Sep 07 10:16 |
| bryce | we've talked about holding a hackfest in the US, maybe associated with SCALE | Sep 07 10:17 |
| bryce | tedg, do you know if SCALE still looks feasible for us? I figure we could start work on getting that set up if so, else maybe need to start looking at other options. | Sep 07 10:18 |
| tedg | I think that it seems reasonable, I need to start looking to put together some concrete plans. | Sep 07 10:19 |
| tedg | My contact in Pasadena never wrote back, so gonna have to go with more generic sources :-( | Sep 07 10:19 |
| bryce | ok sounds good | Sep 07 10:19 |
| tedg | I'm sure we'll find something, just nice to have a local. | Sep 07 10:19 |
| tedg | I'll try to have some options for next board meeting. | Sep 07 10:19 |
| doctormon | local is subjective | Sep 07 10:20 |
| bryce | thanks, it would be great if we could have a plan we can vote on around then | Sep 07 10:20 |
| bryce | ACTION: Propose some options and concrete plans for hackfest at SCALE [tedg] | Sep 07 10:21 |
| bryce | LGM is in May next year | Sep 07 10:21 |
| bryce | perhaps next week people can brainstorm on plans for it. Tavmjong were you going to do the organization for that? | Sep 07 10:22 |
| bryce | ok, well hopefully it gets discussed next year. We have tons of time but if anyone wants to own the organizing effort, would be great to pencil someone ine. | Sep 07 10:24 |
| bryce | in. | Sep 07 10:25 |
| bryce | moving on | Sep 07 10:25 |
| bryce | === Merchandise sales === | Sep 07 10:25 |
| bryce | Mc-, are you about today? Looks like we're missing CR | Sep 07 10:25 |
| tedg | They may be traveling. | Sep 07 10:26 |
| bryce | yep likely | Sep 07 10:26 |
| bryce | no prob, we can table that to next month, I'm sure there'll be discussion next week on this. mainly I'm curious about status on spreadshirt, but I don't think there are issues we need to track right now. | Sep 07 10:27 |
| bryce | === Outreachy === | Sep 07 10:27 |
| doctormon | Hang on | Sep 07 10:27 |
| bryce | doctormon, ok go ahead | Sep 07 10:27 |
| doctormon | I wanted to briefly talk about conference packs. Would a packet of stickers and maybe a t-shirt or two be a good bundle to ship to members to want to attend a non-lgm type conference? should we as a group help fund that? | Sep 07 10:28 |
| tedg | You're talking about going to a conference and giving things away there? | Sep 07 10:29 |
| doctormon | Yeah, it would be something to do in conjunction with the vectors team. Have boots on the ground in places like university art programs or conferences on cnc machines. | Sep 07 10:30 |
| bryce | didn't we fund printing of stickers for SFC to send to folks going to places? | Sep 07 10:30 |
| doctormon | Depending on the people who might be interested to go | Sep 07 10:30 |
| doctormon | bryce: We did, actually we should get back on that, we never heard anything back from them. | Sep 07 10:31 |
| doctormon | But this would be a bit more formal in terms of Inkscape encouraging people to go do some group work. | Sep 07 10:31 |
| bryce | we also gave the vectors team a $100/yr budget that could cover incidentals; where there are other expenses like the banner, no problem funding that sort of stuff, but I think we'd need to do specific votes case by case | Sep 07 10:31 |
| tedg | Yeah, I think running that through a vectors team budget makes the most sense. | Sep 07 10:32 |
| doctormon | Fair enough. | Sep 07 10:32 |
| tedg | That way they can decide which would be the most effective, and see what gets the most reach. | Sep 07 10:32 |
| bryce | let me look at our budget resolution, I think we may have already voted on something that'd cover general conference attendance | Sep 07 10:33 |
| bryce | oh, here's the sticker one: "1. Give the Conservancy $100 to produce a set of four stickers based | Sep 07 10:33 |
| bryce | on our 0.92 about screen winner and runner-ups." | Sep 07 10:33 |
| bryce | yes would be worth following up on that -- doctormon you mind taking the action there? | Sep 07 10:34 |
| tedg | I'd say that generally probably if we have a place where people expect us, that makes a lot of sense. So like if we could do a BOF or something like that at the conference. But someone just walking around with stickers wouldn't be great. | Sep 07 10:34 |
| doctormon | ok | Sep 07 10:34 |
| bryce | | + Conferences | $1000 | | | +$1000 | $2000 | | Sep 07 10:34 |
| bryce | and yeah we funded $2k sponsorship for general conferences | Sep 07 10:34 |
| bryce | the intent there is more for covering travel costs but I think it'd be sane to use that for conference related stuff like t-shirts and buttons and other giveaways | Sep 07 10:35 |
| bryce | so there I think we'd just need a specific plan to vote on | Sep 07 10:36 |
| bryce | in any case, great idea, and looks definitely feasible, just a matter of getting it organized :-) | Sep 07 10:36 |
| bryce | I think conference season is winding down for this year, but would be great to get some visibility at future ones | Sep 07 10:37 |
| bryce | ACTION: Check with Conservancy on status of sticker production [doctormon] | Sep 07 10:37 |
| bryce | Sep 07 10:37 | |
| doctormon | thanks | Sep 07 10:37 |
| bryce | ok, back to outreachy, I think we covered it earlier. doctormon have you had a chance to put the project proposal online somewhere? | Sep 07 10:38 |
| bryce | if not, probably prioritize that since it sounds like fundraising will start soon for it | Sep 07 10:38 |
| bryce | === Action Items === | Sep 07 10:39 |
| bryce | looking through the list I posted last night... | Sep 07 10:40 |
| doctormon | bryce: I must have missed a memo, did I have a past action item to do the outreachy project? | Sep 07 10:40 |
| bryce | yeah ♢ ACTION: Verify that outreachy project proposal is written and available online [doctormo] | Sep 07 10:40 |
| doctormon | I'm going to ask MO if she'll take that one, I don't think I have a good grasp on the details. | Sep 07 10:42 |
| bryce | hmm, just got an email back from her, sounds like she may have missed the cutoff date for this round of outreachy. :-/ | Sep 07 10:43 |
| doctormon | Ah | Sep 07 10:43 |
| bryce | doctormon, the project description would be basically a GSoC statement of what would be developed. But hold on that, if the schedule's off then it's a moot point. | Sep 07 10:44 |
| bryce | ok, looking through action items | Sep 07 10:44 |
| doctormon | OK | Sep 07 10:44 |
| bryce | I'd meant to get 0.92.4 kicked off last month, but was too busy with other stuff. Still hoping to get to it, but this month is looking like it'll be just as busy as last. | Sep 07 10:45 |
| bryce | also had an action to coordinate with Mc on bug management work, I will try and get the email out to him on that this afternoon. | Sep 07 10:46 |
| bryce | rest of the items we're either missing the people or we've already discussed | Sep 07 10:47 |
| doctormon | Is that an action item? | Sep 07 10:47 |
| bryce | yeah, I'll carry it forward from last month | Sep 07 10:47 |
| Ede123 | bryce: I think 0.92.4 is not too urgent. Not much changes yet and 0.92.3 was not even half a year ago | Sep 07 10:47 |
| bryce | Ede123, ok thanks that's a relief to know. I'll keep it on my todo list though. | Sep 07 10:48 |
| Ede123 | Sure... Let's not make it a year and we should be fine ;-) | Sep 07 10:49 |
| bryce | often the later releases in a stable series are smallish, so even if there's not much accumulated may still be worth doing | Sep 07 10:49 |
| bryce | === Other Business === | Sep 07 10:50 |
| bryce | any other items to discuss? | Sep 07 10:50 |
| Ede123 | I was wondering what the state on bug tracking is? | Sep 07 10:50 |
| Ede123 | Or is that what you intended to discuss with Mc? | Sep 07 10:51 |
| bryce | no, separate issues | Sep 07 10:51 |
| Ede123 | We should probably tackle that before any 1.0 release? | Sep 07 10:51 |
| bryce | the discussion item with Mc is about triaging the list of bugs for 1.0 alpha down to something achievable | Sep 07 10:51 |
| bryce | migrating the bug tracker is a separate issue. I haven't even had time to think about it, but agree a plan's needed. | Sep 07 10:52 |
| bryce | as it happens, freedesktop.org just did a move of its projects (including cairo) to gitlab. They migrated bugzilla to gitlab, and it seemed pretty seamless to me. | Sep 07 10:52 |
| Ede123 | OK. It's certainly a big task. | Sep 07 10:53 |
| doctormon | A migration is bad idea for us, we're carrying too many bugs. | Sep 07 10:53 |
| Ede123 | For GNOME/freedesktop I feel many of the old bugs are migrated but basically dead. | Sep 07 10:53 |
| Ede123 | Main problem is that the original authors are not subscribed to the issues anymore | Sep 07 10:54 |
| bryce | as they are running their own gitlab instance, and had owned the bugzilla instance before that, they have better control over the user account migration than we'd have | Sep 07 10:55 |
| Ede123 | doctormon: I think it was almost decided to move bug tracking to GitLab in some way. Or do you suggest to start fresh? | Sep 07 10:55 |
| Ede123 | bryce: Actually they don't. Everything is handled by a single "migration bot" account. There's no linking between old messages and accounts on the new instance | Sep 07 10:56 |
| bryce | there was definitely a consensus that we should look at no other bug trackers besides gitlab, but the question of whether to move or not was not as clear cut. And there was no clarity on how exactly the move should be done, although a lot of different ideas were collected. | Sep 07 10:56 |
| bryce | Ede123, ah, now that you mention it I did notice that | Sep 07 10:57 |
| bryce | I suppose we'd have to do something like that too | Sep 07 10:57 |
| doctormon | We could move them into a different project from inkscape proper if that helps us sort out our archive from how we want to do bugs going forward | Sep 07 10:58 |
| Moini__ | I find that would help tremendously with sorting. | Sep 07 10:59 |
| Ede123 | It'd also sort out issues nobody cares about efficiently ;-) | Sep 07 10:59 |
| bryce | one thing I'd like to change in our gitlab setup is to set up a Devel team to match our other teams, and move the inkscape git repo (and other core devel bits) into that. So bugs could get sorted into that structure. | Sep 07 11:00 |
| Moini__ | Moving bugs inside a single platform is much easier than copy-paste (haven't tried that on gitlab yet, though) | Sep 07 11:01 |
| bryce | maybe the next step here would be for someone to do an experimental migration to a dummy gitlab project, and see if there's any problems pulling the data in? | Sep 07 11:01 |
| bryce | ok, well I'll add this to the Inkscape agenda for next meeting, we can discuss further. Thanks for raising it. | Sep 07 11:03 |
| bryce | any other items, before we close out the meeting? | Sep 07 11:03 |
| bryce | alright, thanks all for coming, and for those attending next week's hackfest have fun, and please report back on any board-relevant discussions. | Sep 07 11:05 |
| bryce | I'll try and keep my eye on IRC and mattermost next week if anything comes up that needs me. | Sep 07 11:06 |
| bryce | == End of Meeting == | Sep 07 11:06 |
| Moini__ | Thank you, Bryce! | Sep 07 11:06 |
| doctormon | thanks bryce | Sep 07 11:09 |
| tedg | Thanks everyone! | Sep 07 11:12 |
| Tavmjong | Sorry to miss the meeting... got busy with family things with my leaving for the hackfest at 7AM tomorrow. | Sep 07 11:49 |
| Tavmjong | I'll do the organizing for the LGM hackfest. | Sep 07 11:51 |
| Tavmjong | I think using GitHub for issues has worked out really well for SVG working group stuff. I think we should be moving to GitLab for our bug tracker sooner rather than later. | Sep 07 11:54 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, thanks for taking on LGM, next week might be useful to gather tabs on who'd be interested in attending it | Sep 07 12:02 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, also perhaps you could see next week if anyone there would be interested in taking ownership of the bug tracker migration task, or at least do an experimental migration so we can see how feasible it's going to be | Sep 07 12:03 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, and have fun at the hackfest! | Sep 07 12:04 |
| Mc- | aah sorry I missed the meeting | Sep 07 13:36 |
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