| Mc | == Inkscape board meeting in ~1h == | Dec 07 09:03 |
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| Mc | == Inkscape board meeting in ~15min == | Dec 07 09:45 |
| *doctormon wishes the meeting would be on chat.inkscape.org | Dec 07 09:54 | |
| bryce | tedg, Tavmjong, mc, doctormon, meeting in 5 | Dec 07 09:55 |
| *Mc wishes chat.inkscape.org would be linked to irc | Dec 07 09:56 | |
| Moini | Mc: Just posted a message there. | Dec 07 09:57 |
| Moini | And helped someone join us here :) | Dec 07 09:57 |
| Mc | :) | Dec 07 09:58 |
| Moini | Hi su_v! | Dec 07 09:58 |
| su_v | Moini: hi | Dec 07 09:59 |
| *tedg waves | Dec 07 09:59 | |
| Mc | hi! ☺ | Dec 07 09:59 |
| bryce | hi su_v! | Dec 07 09:59 |
| jabiertxof | hi su_v! | Dec 07 09:59 |
| bryce | alright let's get started | Dec 07 09:59 |
| bryce | == Inkscape Board Meeting ~ 2018-12-07 == | Dec 07 10:00 |
| *ryangorley is lurking while working | Dec 07 10:00 | |
| bryce | Agenda: | Dec 07 10:00 |
| bryce | * Future meetings/hackfests. | Dec 07 10:00 |
| bryce | * Merchandise sales | Dec 07 10:00 |
| bryce | * Bug tracker transition plan | Dec 07 10:01 |
| bryce | * Weblate service deployment | Dec 07 10:01 |
| bryce | * Sponsorship management | Dec 07 10:01 |
| bryce | * Action Items | Dec 07 10:01 |
| bryce | * Other Business | Dec 07 10:01 |
| bryce | Dec 07 10:01 | |
| bryce | ted, fill us in on scale, to start? | Dec 07 10:01 |
| LiamW | su_v: hi | Dec 07 10:02 |
| bryce | tedg, you found a venue? Do we have dates established? | Dec 07 10:02 |
| tedg | Yes, I have dates and a venue. I haven't put them in the wiki though. | Dec 07 10:03 |
| doctormon | Evening awl | Dec 07 10:03 |
| Moini | Tav put some info in today: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2019_SCALE | Dec 07 10:04 |
| tedg | So we've got the venue on March 4-6. | Dec 07 10:04 |
| tedg | I'm not sure what we want to do for hotels, do you want me to look for a block? Or perhaps we can use SCALE's block. | Dec 07 10:05 |
| bryce | nice, I used to live 2 blocks from there when I was in college | Dec 07 10:06 |
| bryce | tedg, yeah look around. | Dec 07 10:07 |
| bryce | there's a howard johnson across the street, and looks like a couple motels a few blocks off | Dec 07 10:08 |
| tedg | Yeah, don't know if people wanted to be closer to the convention center for SCALE. | Dec 07 10:09 |
| tedg | I mean, it's all not far from each other, but not sure how to optimize. | Dec 07 10:09 |
| bryce | I'm mainly interested in the hackfest, so will probably be optimizing for that, myself | Dec 07 10:10 |
| tedg | Okay, I'll see what is a good cost/distance tradeoff. | Dec 07 10:11 |
| bryce | ACTION: Hold vote for March hackfest [bryce] | Dec 07 10:11 |
| bryce | tedg, what is involved in locking the commitment for those dates? | Dec 07 10:12 |
| tedg | Nothing, we're good. | Dec 07 10:13 |
| bryce | Moini, would you be willing to set up a donate page for us for this event at https://inkscape.org/support-us/hackfests/ ? | Dec 07 10:13 |
| tedg | They'd like us to talk about their computer group about letting them come and say hi. | Dec 07 10:13 |
| bryce | ok that'd be great | Dec 07 10:14 |
| tedg | They were supposed to mail me, and didn't, but I figure it'd be better to chase that down next semester. | Dec 07 10:14 |
| bryce | guess it's time to start working on expanding http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2019_SCALE_Attendees next | Dec 07 10:14 |
| tedg | Student organizations change leadership a lot ;-) | Dec 07 10:15 |
| Moini | bryce: the last times, we had a news article, a banner, social media posts that linked to the general hackfest donation page. Would that be sufficient? | Dec 07 10:15 |
| bryce | tedg, end of year exams and such, yeah. Right after new years might be the ideal time | Dec 07 10:15 |
| tedg | We'll need a list of bryce's college hangouts on the wiki ;-) | Dec 07 10:15 |
| Moini | We'd also need more info to make it an actual text :) | Dec 07 10:15 |
| bryce | Moini, yes that'd be perfect | Dec 07 10:15 |
| Moini | zigzagmlt, would you help with that article? | Dec 07 10:16 |
| zigzagmlt | Absolutely! | Dec 07 10:16 |
| Moini | Great :) I'll make a Vectors issue for it. | Dec 07 10:16 |
| bryce | ok, I'll work on getting the vote done this weekend, to make this official. | Dec 07 10:18 |
| bryce | we need to get the wiki page fleshed out a bit more, too. If anyone's interested in researching about pasadena it'd be a huge help | Dec 07 10:20 |
| bryce | I'll try and add some bits myself. | Dec 07 10:20 |
| bryce | ok, anything else on the SCALE hackfest? | Dec 07 10:20 |
| tedg | I don't think so. I think we'll need to figure out housing next. | Dec 07 10:21 |
| doctormon | Housing makes things easier | Dec 07 10:21 |
| bryce | ok, next is LGM hackfest in europe | Dec 07 10:22 |
| bryce | Tavmjong, if you're around please chime in | Dec 07 10:22 |
| bryce | LGM is in may, so planning for this should probably get started soon | Dec 07 10:22 |
| bryce | do we have a wiki page for it set up? I'm not spotting one offhand | Dec 07 10:23 |
| Mc | I think so | Dec 07 10:23 |
| bryce | http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2019_Saarbr%C3%BCcken | Dec 07 10:23 |
| bryce | ok, looks to me like we need a coordinator identified, to flesh out the plan and so on. | Dec 07 10:25 |
| doctormon | Maybe one of our German or French friends from the Kiel hackfest would be interested in leading? | Dec 07 10:26 |
| bryce | that's probably a good idea | Dec 07 10:28 |
| bryce | I guess I should send out a recruitment email. | Dec 07 10:28 |
| Moini | Can't see anyone from Germany (except for houz - but he wasn't at the hackfest) | Dec 07 10:28 |
| Moini | Even if houz might not organize, as a local he could be of great help. | Dec 07 10:29 |
| rindolf | Tavmjong: will the inkscape 1.0 command line break compat with that of older releases? | Dec 07 10:29 |
| ryangorley | I know there is an active group on opensourcedesign.net, I can post something on their forum. | Dec 07 10:29 |
| ryangorley | ^^ active Inkscape user group | Dec 07 10:29 |
| Moini | ryangorley: a German one? | Dec 07 10:30 |
| bryce | let's set a deadline of finding a volunteer to coordinate it by next board meeting; if we haven't found anyone by then, it could be tough to pull everything together by the event. | Dec 07 10:30 |
| Moini | Fundraiser issue for SCALE: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/content/issues/23 | Dec 07 10:31 |
| bryce | ACTION: Send email to recruit a volunteer to coordinate May hackfest in Germany | Dec 07 10:31 |
| bryce | ACTION: Send email to recruit a volunteer to coordinate May hackfest in Germany [bryce] | Dec 07 10:31 |
| tedg | Great, thanks Moini ! | Dec 07 10:31 |
| ryangorley | Moini: Yes | Dec 07 10:31 |
| ryangorley | bryce: I'll watch for your email and just modify for pushing out to that forum and the social media. | Dec 07 10:32 |
| bryce | ryangorley, sounds good | Dec 07 10:32 |
| Moini | ryangorley: interesting... need to look some time. | Dec 07 10:32 |
| bryce | ok, moving on | Dec 07 10:32 |
| bryce | since CR isn't here, going to skip Merchandise Sales, although I'm quite curious on status of it. Maybe I'll trade emails with him to check in. | Dec 07 10:33 |
| Mc | I ordered hellotux merch | Dec 07 10:33 |
| Mc | and it's really nice | Dec 07 10:33 |
| bryce | ACTION: Check in with CR on merchandise shop status [bryce] | Dec 07 10:33 |
| bryce | Mc, cool! | Dec 07 10:33 |
| Mc | I would really recommend it | Dec 07 10:33 |
| ryangorley | bryce: zigzagmlt had something to chime in about Merchandising | Dec 07 10:34 |
| bryce | oh, great. zigzagmlt? | Dec 07 10:34 |
| ryangorley | Maybe she's not here. I'll give you the second-hand account then... | Dec 07 10:34 |
| bryce | === Merchandise Sales === | Dec 07 10:35 |
| ryangorley | Basically she contacted spreadshirt. Apparently we need to configure so the store shows up outside of US with the localized .ca tld. | Dec 07 10:35 |
| ryangorley | Do we know who has permissions to fix that? | Dec 07 10:35 |
| bryce | hrm | Dec 07 10:35 |
| Moini | prkos - do you have permissions for the shop? | Dec 07 10:35 |
| zigzagmlt | Sorry! Lurking while working, too. Ryan has it. | Dec 07 10:35 |
| zigzagmlt | Ryan has the news. | Dec 07 10:36 |
| prkos | lemme check I haven't logged in lately | Dec 07 10:36 |
| bryce | thanks prkos | Dec 07 10:36 |
| doctormon | I might | Dec 07 10:36 |
| prkos | yes, I can still log into Spreaddshirt | Dec 07 10:36 |
| *TBah Sorry to be late... sick kid and wife leaving for US tonight. | Dec 07 10:37 | |
| Moini | Hi Tav! | Dec 07 10:37 |
| doctormon | I can not log into spreadhsirt any more, the password I have on file is incorrect. | Dec 07 10:37 |
| TBah | Hi All! | Dec 07 10:37 |
| zigzagmlt | Oh, with HelloTux we were going to see about merch for women or unisex | Dec 07 10:37 |
| doctormon | TBah: you coming to my neck of woods? | Dec 07 10:38 |
| Moini | zigzagmlt and prkos: could you coordinate for the .ca issue? | Dec 07 10:38 |
| zigzagmlt | Certainly! | Dec 07 10:38 |
| prkos | ryangorley: is that in shop settings or maybe domain issue? | Dec 07 10:38 |
| doctormon | prkos: Can you encrypt me the password you are using, I presume the account is inkscape-merch@sfc? | Dec 07 10:39 |
| prkos | hi zigzagmlt you probably know more? | Dec 07 10:39 |
| zigzagmlt | A little bit. We can discuss later? | Dec 07 10:39 |
| prkos | doctormon: I think the credentials are in the credentials repo so you should be able to see them, right bryce? | Dec 07 10:40 |
| doctormon | Will double check against those, thanks prkos | Dec 07 10:40 |
| Moini | prkos, zigzagmlt is michele on rocket.chat | Dec 07 10:40 |
| prkos | zigzagmlt: yes of course, on the other chat :) | Dec 07 10:40 |
| bryce | yeah, more woman's cuts would be nice. Looks like they just have one t-shirt? | Dec 07 10:40 |
| ryangorley | prkos: Probably not a domain issue as it would be a tld that Spreadshirt already has, probably an international sales setting. If you have access, zigzagmlt can probably better communicate what she heard from Spreadshirt. | Dec 07 10:40 |
| bryce | prkos, yes | Dec 07 10:40 |
| prkos | doctormon: maybe bryce needs to add you to a group so you have access to it | Dec 07 10:40 |
| prkos | Moini: I'm well aware of Michelle's artistic and other contributions :) | Dec 07 10:41 |
| doctormon | prkos: I feel like I've been kicked out of the credentials repository, @bryce? | Dec 07 10:41 |
| Moini | Sorry, prkos! | Dec 07 10:41 |
| prkos | Moini: no reason lol it's nice to have a friendly inviting atmosphere, I just didn't want Michelle to think I'd forgotten about her :) | Dec 07 10:42 |
| zigzagmlt | 8-)) | Dec 07 10:43 |
| prkos | should we deal with spreadshirt later and report next meeting? | Dec 07 10:43 |
| bryce | doctormon, that seems rather unlikely, could it be you're using an old copy of the credentials repo or something? | Dec 07 10:43 |
| prkos | zigzagmlt: so sorry Michele with only one l | Dec 07 10:44 |
| bryce | doctormon, you're listed there as having access for spreadshirt. | Dec 07 10:45 |
| doctormon | @bryce I think it's probably got the wrong remote, still gitlab, but is it inkscape but branch inkscape.dev-credentials? | Dec 07 10:45 |
| doctormon | Or did you split it out? | Dec 07 10:45 |
| Moini | It's separate. | Dec 07 10:45 |
| bryce | url = git@gitlab.com:inkscape/infra/credentials.git | Dec 07 10:45 |
| houz | who summoned me? | Dec 07 10:45 |
| bryce | yeah it's split out. That's probably what the problem is. | Dec 07 10:45 |
| Moini | https://gitlab.com/inkscape-board/documents | Dec 07 10:45 |
| bryce | hi houz | Dec 07 10:45 |
| Moini | houz, that would have been me :) | Dec 07 10:45 |
| Moini | But the topic is over (it was about Saarbrücken hackfest) - I think Bryce will add you to the recipients of his email. | Dec 07 10:46 |
| bryce | I'll try to attend the Vectors meeting tomorrow, and see if I can catch Chris there. There are some hellotux action items I need to do in coordination with him. | Dec 07 10:46 |
| houz | ok. i didn't really read the backlog, just saw that i was mentioned | Dec 07 10:46 |
| Moini | Thanks for popping in, houz! | Dec 07 10:47 |
| bryce | houz, we're looking for someone to help with arrangements for a hackfest in Germany in May, and your name was mentioned as someone that might possibly be interested. | Dec 07 10:48 |
| houz | and most important: hey su_v! | Dec 07 10:48 |
| bryce | but I'll put out an email with more details, so you can wait and reply to that if you'd like and are interested | Dec 07 10:48 |
| houz | i guess i can help, yes. i am working in the same office as the lgm organizers | Dec 07 10:48 |
| bryce | === Bug Tracker Transition Plan === | Dec 07 10:48 |
| Moini | houz: :-D :-D | Dec 07 10:49 |
| Mc | hum | Dec 07 10:49 |
| Mc | I have been sick for two weeks so not really able to progress much on that :/ | Dec 07 10:50 |
| bryce | Chris and Terry have been working hard on setting up some tools for organizing manual bug migration. I think it may be close, and am going to get them set up with a place to host the webpage for it. | Dec 07 10:50 |
| Mc | cool | Dec 07 10:50 |
| Moini | Wow! | Dec 07 10:50 |
| bryce | Mc, sorry to hear. | Dec 07 10:50 |
| bryce | I'm a bit behind in stuff too, I think a lot of us are. no worries. | Dec 07 10:51 |
| doctormon | Can't wait to see it all! | Dec 07 10:52 |
| bryce | so, I think we're close in being able to announce that people can start filing bugs in gitlab. I think we discussed timing of that in relation to 1.0-alpha and 0.92.4, but I'll need to check my notes to remember what the exact plan was. | Dec 07 10:53 |
| bryce | in any case, I think we're close to being able to make that change. | Dec 07 10:54 |
| bryce | Dec 07 10:54 | |
| bryce | === Weblate Service Deployment === | Dec 07 10:55 |
| Mc | the exazct plan was to release .92.4 and 1.0-alpha at the same time and just before opening that tracker which would be only open to bugs verified on 1.0-alpha | Dec 07 10:55 |
| bryce | I've not been keeping track of status on this, although I know recena was tied up with other stuff for a while, so maybe it's still in process | Dec 07 10:55 |
| Moini | Haven't seen Patrick around lately :-( He wanted to make some adjustments. | Dec 07 10:55 |
| Moini | Some of it didn't work as expected, and he had to look for workarounds. | Dec 07 10:56 |
| Moini | But was working on other things, so wanted to have a look later. | Dec 07 10:56 |
| Mc | (also I'd like to wait a bit to have a commandline usage working for 1.0-alpha, TBah and I are working on it) | Dec 07 10:56 |
| bryce | Mc, ok right, thanks. So priority for me should be getting alpha wrapped up. | Dec 07 10:56 |
| bryce | Mc, how long do you think that will take? | Dec 07 10:57 |
| Mc | ideally less than a few days | Dec 07 10:57 |
| bryce | ok | Dec 07 10:58 |
| Mc | TBah has a version with a separate binary working in commandline but I'm trying to have the same one for both | Dec 07 10:58 |
| bryce | next several weeks are going to be really busy for me, but I still hope I can squeeze in the alpha release before the end of the year | Dec 07 10:58 |
| *TBah Mc's version looks good to me... | Dec 07 10:58 | |
| Mc | TBah: it's not working yet ^^ | Dec 07 10:59 |
| Mc | I have a few c++ inheritance problems | Dec 07 10:59 |
| bryce | although we're going to market alpha just for testers, it would probably be wise to now start discouraging landing of other new features until after alpha, just in case | Dec 07 11:00 |
| TBah | Oh... I had the inheritance problems too when I tried something similar. I figured you were a lot smarter than me. | Dec 07 11:00 |
| bryce | === Sponsorship Management === | Dec 07 11:01 |
| bryce | I think everyone has seen there is a new platinum sponsor for Inkscape. :-) Karen sent congrats, and suggested a meeting with her to discuss how SFC could help improve our sponsorship processes | Dec 07 11:03 |
| bryce | I think she's pretty busy at the moment with EOY fundraising stuff, so might be better to touch base with her after the holidays | Dec 07 11:03 |
| bryce | we have a few other items that have come up, like revisiting our discussion about a sponsor acceptance policy, etc. | Dec 07 11:04 |
| tedg | She is usually at SCALE, we could perhaps ask her to come a day early and do a face-to-face. | Dec 07 11:04 |
| bryce | oh that's a good idea too | Dec 07 11:05 |
| bryce | hmm, although I seem to recall her saying she may not be at this one. | Dec 07 11:05 |
| tedg | Hmm, okay. She may be sending bkhun and freedeb. | Dec 07 11:05 |
| doctormon | We could set up a meeting at a convenient place. I'd be interested. online or off. | Dec 07 11:06 |
| tedg | It would be good to meet with them as well though. | Dec 07 11:06 |
| bryce | yes | Dec 07 11:06 |
| TBah | Speaking of SCALE, we need to start getting people to sign up... | Dec 07 11:06 |
| bryce | TBah, yes | Dec 07 11:07 |
| TBah | Who here is coming? | Dec 07 11:07 |
| bryce | o/ | Dec 07 11:07 |
| Mc | probably | Dec 07 11:07 |
| doctormon | 20% chance | Dec 07 11:07 |
| bryce | TBah, there is an attendees page, but only me, ted, and Ryan are listed so far | Dec 07 11:07 |
| TBah | I plan to but need to work out logistics. | Dec 07 11:07 |
| tedg | I posted in #conservancy to ask about whether we needed to do anything for the new event insurance. I'll bring up the SFC possibly showing up when I get a response there. | Dec 07 11:08 |
| bryce | one other thought with sponsors is that it may be beneficial to do outreach work to solicit sponsors. It's amazing we've had so many sponsors come to us directly, but I wonder if with a bit of more proactive work reaching out to companies we could find a lot more. | Dec 07 11:09 |
| bryce | tedg, thanks | Dec 07 11:09 |
| bryce | ACTION: Find out about the new event insurance from #conservancy [tedg] | Dec 07 11:09 |
| bryce | ACTION: See if Karen or other Conservancy members will be at SCALE | Dec 07 11:10 |
| TBah | bryce, Can we get a summary of our financial situation? | Dec 07 11:11 |
| bryce | ACTION: See if Karen or other Conservancy members will be at SCALE to discuss sponsorship management | Dec 07 11:11 |
| Moini | I'd be interested to know how much Kiel cost. | Dec 07 11:11 |
| bryce | TBah, yes we should. It's on my todo list to do this month, but I've just not had mcuh time. | Dec 07 11:11 |
| bryce | ACTION: Generate summary of our financial situation [bryce] | Dec 07 11:12 |
| bryce | ok, we can leave further discussion on sponsorship to the next meeting | Dec 07 11:13 |
| bryce | === Action Items === | Dec 07 11:13 |
| bryce | we had a long list of actions from last meeting, which I appended to the meeting announcement. | Dec 07 11:14 |
| prkos | I have update on Spreadshirt for Canada, ping if you want to squeeze me in | Dec 07 11:14 |
| bryce | let me know if there are items that can be crossed off. I think we've covered most of them in this meeting's discussion, so will carry the still open ones forward | Dec 07 11:14 |
| bryce | and let me know if there are other actions to add to the list. | Dec 07 11:15 |
| bryce | === Other Business === | Dec 07 11:15 |
| bryce | prkos, ok shoot | Dec 07 11:15 |
| prkos | https://shop.spreadshirt.ca/inkscape-shop-ca | Dec 07 11:15 |
| prkos | needs a lot of work, this is what 5 mins work gets you | Dec 07 11:15 |
| bryce | prkos, ah nice | Dec 07 11:16 |
| Moini | Does this need to be done for each country? | Dec 07 11:16 |
| prkos | products configuration is what takes the most time | Dec 07 11:16 |
| prkos | there are 3 options in Spreadshirt for url TLD: .com .ca .com.au | Dec 07 11:17 |
| Moini | (I just replaced all ca with de and got a 404) | Dec 07 11:17 |
| Moini | Ah. | Dec 07 11:17 |
| Moini | Thanks prkos! | Dec 07 11:17 |
| bryce | ok, any one else have new topics to open? | Dec 07 11:17 |
| prkos | I guess .com is what everyone can use unless their country has special requests by law | Dec 07 11:17 |
| prkos | I think it might be interesting to investigate Brazil though | Dec 07 11:18 |
| prkos | they can't purchase unless it's their currency, so maybe find a service that supports Brazil | Dec 07 11:18 |
| prkos | since we have a lot of users in Brazil | Dec 07 11:19 |
| Moini | That's true. | Dec 07 11:19 |
| bryce | that's an interesting point | Dec 07 11:19 |
| Moini | Let's get step 1 finished first, though, then we can worry about step 2. | Dec 07 11:20 |
| Moini | We could make it an issue in vectors, so it's not forgotten. | Dec 07 11:21 |
| bryce | Moini, sounds good | Dec 07 11:21 |
| Moini | (not sure where else to keep that) | Dec 07 11:21 |
| *tedg needs to head out, waves | Dec 07 11:21 | |
| bryce | yes, let's go ahead and wrap. If there's any other things to discuss I'll be around a bit longer | Dec 07 11:22 |
| bryce | == End of Meeting == | Dec 07 11:22 |
| *Moini waves to tedg | Dec 07 11:22 | |
| Mc | ☺ | Dec 07 11:22 |
| su_v | LiamW, houz, jabiertxof, bryce, Moini: hi. thx for the welcome, much appreciated. | Dec 07 11:22 |
| jabiertxof | :) | Dec 07 11:22 |
| Moini | :) | Dec 07 11:23 |
| bryce | Moini, that's a good question where we should track merchandise issues. I could set up a gitlab issues for the Board if we don't have one yet, but that doesn't feel like the right place. Vectors may be more suitable, or I wonder if we ought to establish a new team just for that? | Dec 07 11:23 |
| bryce | probably worth keeping all the fundraising/sponsorship/merchandise stuff together in one place | Dec 07 11:24 |
| Moini | Not sure - would it make sense to have a separate repo in vectors? That would give us a greater contributor pool. | Dec 07 11:26 |
| Moini | While still keeping it separate from news. Although, sponsoring + news are related. | Dec 07 11:26 |
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