| tedg | Sure ======= BOARD MEETING ====== For those that missed the link 😉 https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Board_Meetings#Agenda First up is finances, basically SFC. | 16:58 |
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| doctormo | Morning ted | 17:02 |
| tedg | I don't have data, but I have progress. My son has a hockey thing in New Jersey, so I've taked to karen about having a face-to-face meeting while I'm out there. We We're still working on details, but I hope that'll progress things a lot further than everything else we've tried. Kinda frustrated, but feeling like I don't understand where we're not communicating well. So... 🤞 | 17:02 |
| doctormo | https://i.stack.imgur.com/pB43k.jpg *sigh* keep on them, the basic information about what the fuck they think they're doing is important to us. | 17:04 |
| tedg | Yes, I feel like we're not asking the question the right way or something. There's just a disconnect. Hopefully we can figure that out. | 17:05 |
| Mc | @doctormo we can fix it in the ICS with a \ | 17:05 |
| tedg | Anyway, next up is voting member changes. I haven't gotten any comments on that issue. I know that it's on the Vectors agenda so we can get that out. | 17:06 |
| doctormo | Vector's meet tomorrow, I'll ask them for an update | 17:06 |
| tedg | I don't think I can make it to the Vectors meeting this week, but I'll try to look in to the backlog. | 17:06 |
| doctormo | @ryangorley If you're available to make sure this comes up in tomorrows meetng. | 17:06 |
| tedg | Next up is student programs. I've seen a lot of traffic on that. Any issues? | 17:07 |
| ryangorley | Uh, I thought the board meeting was in an hour. Sorry | 17:07 |
| doctormo | @ryangorley That's my/the website/benjamin frankin's fault. | 17:07 |
| ryangorley | Haha, okay. | 17:08 |
| tedg | Haha, I'm going to start calling @doctormo \ | 17:08 |
| doctormo | 'alrite Teddy :-P | 17:08 |
| Mc | Doc' ? | 17:08 |
| ryangorley | @ted tedg We'll get that article published. Was there more than that you were hoping for us to help with? | 17:09 |
| tedg | Do we have enough GSoC mentors/students/applications? | 17:09 |
| doctormo | Loads and loads by account of their messages and activity, not sure about filled in applicans | 17:10 |
| tedg | @ryangorley, more feedback on the wording and English aspects. | 17:10 |
| ryangorley | gotcha | 17:10 |
| Mc | we have a few applicants, not sure we'll have enough mentors | 17:11 |
| tedg | @ryangorley, also, generally, if people on Vectors thought it'd be a workable plan for them getting recognized by the project. | 17:11 |
| Mc | (I hope so) | 17:11 |
| tedg | Can we sign up more now? Or is it too late? | 17:11 |
| Mc | we can | 17:11 |
| ryangorley | @ted tedg I think what you drafted was pretty close to what we had come up with independently, but I'll seek more feedback. | 17:12 |
| tedg | Perhaps this could be something at the developer meeting? Or do we already have everyone who shows up there? | 17:12 |
| Mc | I forgot to ask at the last dev meeting | 17:12 |
| tedg | @ryangorley, awesome, thanks! | 17:12 |
| doctormo | We did take questions from outreachy interns and gsoc students applicants. But we didn't ask them to do anything more. | 17:12 |
| tedg | K, might be worth putting a post on inkscape-devel as well. Not sure if that practically goes to more people or not. But, great that we have more students, that's awesome. This probably segways into Dev meeting update. Mc @Tav ? | 17:13 |
| Mc | @ede123 @speleo3 Would you be ok to be potential mentors ? tav, doctormo and I are already in as \ | 17:14 |
| tedg | Hehe, I can try. I'm a bit afraid I don't know as much of the codebase as I used to. | 17:16 |
| doctormo | @mikekov You'd make a good mentor at this point :-D | 17:16 |
| tedg | But I realize we also need some signups to get numbers from Google. Am I right about that? (not sure if it changed) | 17:17 |
| Mc | some unknown process based on unknown parameters, but including the number of mentors, will allocate us some number of slots | 17:18 |
| tedg | We should send cookies to the admins at Google 🤣 I can definitely sign up as a possible admin. We can figure out assignments if it makes sense after we know the slots. Sorry, not admin, mentor. | 17:18 |
| Mc | sure | 17:20 |
| tedg | Okay, any 1.1 updates? | 17:20 |
| Mc | well, we have a blocker list but I believe we're sort of still on track for a may release | 17:20 |
| tedg | Sounds good. | 17:21 |
| doctormo | The release is looking good. Fewer bugs than 1.0.2 is letting some users use the beta already. | 17:22 |
| tedg | Ah, that's great. Getting more people playing with it is helpful. Seems we don't need to discuss it here though, I imagine it might transition into a Vectors update though. @ryangorley ? | 17:22 |
| ryangorley | We've publicized the beta release at least once on all the channels. We'll push it some more. | 17:25 |
| mikekov | @doctormo My Inkscape knowledge is still superficial, but I think I could help with UI/UX changes, yes. | 17:25 |
| tedg | Great, sounds good. Looks like the about screen finished up with a cool robot. | 17:27 |
| ryangorley | The submissions get better with every release | 17:27 |
| tedg | Do we have stuff we're doign with the other finalists? (they were all really great) Hehe, I feel like we say they get better everytime, everytime. But they do! | 17:27 |
| Mc | we do a few things with some of the artwork, I think on the website and on some pages of the welcome screen, and as backgrounds of dev meetings ^^ | 17:28 |
| ryangorley | @doctormo usually puts them to good use | 17:29 |
| doctormo | There's a whole issue that documents them. | 17:29 |
| doctormo | https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/-/issues/201 | 17:29 |
| tedg | Cool, great! Are we actually selling t-shirts or do we not know? I thought a couple would be cool on t-shirts, but I don' tknow how that is working out. | 17:31 |
| doctormo | We get a message about once every three months with something sold on our merch | 17:32 |
| Mc | ? | 17:32 |
| doctormo | https://shop.spreadshirt.com/inkscape-shop | 17:33 |
| doctormo | So it's not worth too much energy to design t-shirts unless there's a lot more sales. | 17:33 |
| Mc | I don't think I get the emails ^^ | 17:33 |
| doctormo | Do you want to? Are you a spreadshirt admin? | 17:33 |
| Mc | nah (and probably not) | 17:34 |
| doctormo | OK :-D | 17:34 |
| tedg | I wonder if we're too broad. \ | 17:34 |
| Mc | @doctormo or need more push if we think it's worth it | 17:34 |
| Moini | With this page on the website about it, no wonder: https://inkscape.org/shop/ | 17:35 |
| ryangorley | Haha, yeah maybe that's a problem @Moini | 17:35 |
| tedg | Heh, it does lack... excitement. 😃 | 17:35 |
| ScislaC | Excitement? It lacks marketing effort. | 17:35 |
| ryangorley | I got the impression the margins were pretty thin, so I've never felt like it was a priority to promote over traditional fundraising. | 17:36 |
| tedg | @ryangorley, can you add that to the Vectors agenda? Not sure it is a \ | 17:36 |
| ryangorley | Why try to get someone to spend $20 for us to make $2, when we can try to get someone to give us $5. | 17:36 |
| tedg | We could add margins.... | 17:36 |
| Mc | @ryangorley I tend to agree | 17:36 |
| doctormo | If only there was a Free Software merch company. | 17:37 |
| doctormo | The margins do get better if you star selling a lot of items. | 17:37 |
| Mc | hellotux ? | 17:37 |
| tedg | Yes, I agree except that we do get free advertising from people wearing merch. | 17:37 |
| ryangorley | I think that is what Hellotux was trying to be. | 17:37 |
| tedg | \ | 17:37 |
| ryangorley | Yeah, there is some marketing value. | 17:38 |
| Moini | We don't even run around in official Inkscape shirts. I was thinking about asking for CLT, for the booth personnel, but with SFCs slowness, it wouldn't have been possible to do until the event is over. | 17:38 |
| Moini | (shipping is multiple weeks in addition to that) | 17:39 |
| Mc | we could probably vote a budget for \ | 17:39 |
| tedg | +1, I'd be for that. | 17:39 |
| Moini | I'd love that :) | 17:39 |
| tedg | I'm curious if we'd be more successful with \ | 17:40 |
| doctormo | Just vote tshirts for any contributor, assuming it's from hellotux or similar :-D | 17:40 |
| Mc | ( https://www.hellotux.com/inkscape_polo_shirt_white is great ) @tedg we can have one based on \ | 17:40 |
| Moini | (No lady formats and too stain sensitive for me) | 17:41 |
| doctormo | Women's sizes is a minimum requirement for any supplier. | 17:41 |
| tedg | Yeah, I think that the about screen artwork is ripe there. We could even use the alternates for the conferences? Feel like it is the \ | 17:41 |
| Moini | 'Get your yearly surprise Inkscape shirt' - lol | 17:42 |
| ScislaC | That sounds like a good idea imho | 17:43 |
| Moini | It was a joke! | 17:43 |
| tedg | Hehe, the subscription model! $50/year get a t-shirt for each release! | 17:43 |
| Moini | Interesting, cheaper than others's subscription, and you get sth tangible, too :) | 17:44 |
| ScislaC | No, no... like ted said the \ | 17:44 |
| Moini | Ah :) | 17:44 |
| Mc | well, sfc tshirts are different each year | 17:44 |
| ScislaC | I'd subscribe for cool and different stuff. | 17:44 |
| doctormo | I can do that privately, but I don't think Inkscape can do that as a charity. (not without the SFC raking the coals over it) | 17:44 |
| tedg | We're probably bike shedding at this point, but I think there's some ways we could grow it. | 17:44 |
| Mc | we can have symbolic rewards like a t shirt for some donation level afaik | 17:45 |
| tedg | Anything else from Vectors @ryangorley ? | 17:45 |
| ryangorley | Yeah, I'm more interested in pushing it from the marketing visibility standpoint or as a perk now that ya'll bring that up. Never made sense to me otherwise | 17:45 |
| ryangorley | Yeah... | 17:45 |
| ryangorley | So we've got a community of enthusiastic users in Indonesia who apparently cannot donate to the project. Any ideas why SFC would be blocking countries from donating and how we can get that remedied? | 17:46 |
| tedg | Hmm, no. I'll put that on my list. | 17:47 |
| ryangorley | Cool, thanks! | 17:47 |
| tedg | Might be a spam thing. Not sure if we were getting some Indonesian spam or something. | 17:47 |
| doctormo | tedg: It's not just Indonesia, it's China, Japan, India and most of asia from reports on twitter. | 17:48 |
| tedg | I'm honestly shocked at how much fraud is involved in Paypal donations. Wonder if we need an Asian donations link through another provider. | 17:48 |
| NPJ2000 | (Personalized copy with your name on the startup screen might be an easy $5 offer?) | 17:49 |
| ScislaC | Apparently I'm out of the loop on Paypal fraud issues. | 17:49 |
| doctormo | Other projects get donations from these places, we're not sure what status the SFC needs to have with PayPal, maybe they need to file accounts or something to confirm their not a scam chairty. | 17:49 |
| tedg | K, I'll see what I can find out. Seems a shame to leave those folks out 😉 | 17:49 |
| ryangorley | Yeah, when people are begging you to let them donate it's maybe something we should think about haha | 17:49 |
| ryangorley | @Moini anything else I'm missing from Vectors you're aware of? | 17:49 |
| tedg | It may also be a setting \ | 17:49 |
| ryangorley | I'm supposed to report back about Nextcloud and Bitwarden stuff, but I didn't make any good progress on that the past month. That GNOME 40 release video kind of did me in. | 17:50 |
| Moini | Nothing that comes to mind at the moment. | 17:50 |
| tedg | People are just transitioning for me.... @doctormo, infrastructure updates? | 17:51 |
| doctormo | Understood, thanks for keeping the issue alive, I want to make sure we get the instructure tasks done. | 17:51 |
| tedg | On a personal note I switched my passwords to Bitwarden and it has been working well. | 17:52 |
| ScislaC | same tedg | 17:52 |
| doctormo | No movement on backups, no feedback on BitWarden, no update on NextCloud (maybe I need to prod Mc to see if we can get an instance set up now) | 17:52 |
| doctormo | Weblate isn't good enough for translators, that's parked. | 17:53 |
| tedg | Are we thinking of hosing our own Nextcloud or using someone else? | 17:53 |
| doctormo | Penpot seems ok for design, it's not intgrated yet, so I'm seeing what Adam does with the public version. | 17:53 |
| tedg | Bummer about Weblate, seen a lot of noise from it, but eh. | 17:54 |
| doctormo | Maybe next year. | 17:54 |
| tedg | Would be a cool GSoC to import/export from Penpot 😃 | 17:54 |
| doctormo | I'm imagining you as a student from the TV show \ | 17:55 |
| tedg | Hehe Okay, that's the end of the agenda. We've got five minutes, anyone? | 17:56 |
| Mc | I'm good I think :) | 17:57 |
| tedg | K, thanks everyone! ===== BOARD MEETING FIN ===== | 17:57 |
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